Classical_Liberal
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Sat Nov-22-03 12:56 PM
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Remember the republican hatred of Clinton? |
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I don't hate Bush, but I loath his policies, and I think that all these confessions of hatred on the part of Liberals are just playing into repuke hands. I don't call his daughters white house dogs, or make fun of his wife or accuse him of murder. I dislike his Presidency because of very concrete things, like the fact that he purged African American voters to win Florida and the country. Like the fact that he uses our soldiers as campaign props, and dresses in a flight suit when he went awol from the guards for a year. I think he is incompetent because he doesn't read books and newspapers. I think that he is a religious extremist because he told the Palestinians that God himself told him to invade Iraq. I don't think someone like that should be President.
I don't stalk and harrass dissenters like the Freepers. I have never seen a duer do that. They don't admit they hate, there fore they are not haters and we are. Also please remember that this Bush hatred meme came from a dlcer at TNR, who supported the neocons and the Iraq war. Please remember that TNR is a neocon publication that has employed most of the staff of the "Weekly Standard" including Kristol, Podheratz and Brooks. A DLCer says he hates Bush therefore liberals hate Bush. Fuck that! Quit giving the pukes this talking point.
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Sat Nov-22-03 12:59 PM
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But i hate Bush soo soo soo much :(
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Sat Nov-22-03 01:00 PM
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I don't think attacking Bush's daughters or wife is helpful. I didn't like it when the republicans made fun of Chelsea or Hilary, either. I don't call republicans repukes or rethugs. I don't like it when they call democrats dimocrats, dumbocrats, etc. It's sad that there can't be dissent in the US without the blinding hatred and namecalling that comes from both sides.
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Sat Nov-22-03 01:04 PM
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Edited on Sat Nov-22-03 01:13 PM by Classical_Liberal
We haven't done anything to his daughters so what's your point? The people who do that are repukes. We aren't as bad as them. why is the press covering this rather than their hatred of us? My grandpa was a republican not a repuke, but freepers who stalk, harrass and try to get dissenters fired are. Rovians who call family members of politicians white house dogs are.
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Sat Nov-22-03 01:16 PM
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Classical_Liberal
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Sat Nov-22-03 01:22 PM
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6. Name a famous lefty that has made fun of Bush's |
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Edited on Sat Nov-22-03 01:26 PM by Classical_Liberal
daughter. Provide documentation! Rush and Coulter are not innocence like them so they don't count. Nobody is saying we should attack Bush's daughters. We should hit fat stupid idiots like Rush that do, and we are not as bad as republicans if we don't allow them to beat the shit out of us.
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Sat Nov-22-03 01:40 PM
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11. So, Conason and Coulter are equivalent? |
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Conason insults and mocks? On what planet would this be?
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Sat Nov-22-03 01:42 PM
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12. Well accusing Bush of Lying |
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is Bush hatred even if true according to this mentality.
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Sat Nov-22-03 01:50 PM
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Accusing Bush of lying is hatred? So if he lies, you're not supposed to call him on it???
Please tell me you're being sarcastic.
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Sat Nov-22-03 01:53 PM
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18. since I was describing a mentality not my own |
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Edited on Sat Nov-22-03 01:55 PM by Classical_Liberal
I was being sarcastic. That is what those who say Conason and Franken are just as bad as Rush and Coulter really mean.
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Sat Nov-22-03 01:56 PM
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I'm feeling a little hot headed :mad: this morning. I'll try and take a deep breath before posting... :dunce:
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Sat Nov-22-03 02:09 PM
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21. Bush has lied and lied and lied |
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What are you reading?????
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Robin Hood
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Sat Nov-22-03 01:05 PM
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4. I thought that hating the president was the American way. |
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That's what this country was founded on. Extreme suspicion and distrust of anyone exercising power over you or your neighbors. But what would freepers know about freedom and the American way?
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Sat Nov-22-03 01:44 PM
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No offense...maybe you were being sarcastic, but I thought the rebellion against England was largely due to taxation without representation.
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Sat Nov-22-03 01:46 PM
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15. That's where it started. |
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And it has been part of the American psyche not to trust government ever since. Heck, it's the repugs who always talk of smaller government.
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Sat Nov-22-03 01:48 PM
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16. Don't forget religious persecution |
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Which boils down to just PERSECUTION as another reason why the US rebelled against England.
And don't forget "all men are created equal" (but forgot to write in microprint "unless you're not white and/or heterosexual".
The United States is a "Hypocracy" for those issues alone.
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Sat Nov-22-03 02:10 PM
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22. I don't want to get too far off the thread topic |
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But while there is much hypocracy in this country, some for the issues you point out, I wouldn't say the United States is a hypocracy. People all have prejudices, some more obvious than others. In a democracy those prejudices will be reflected in the government because we all make up the government. The battle is to reveal people's prejudices to them and make them think about it. agreed?
Religion is one of the most divisive things ever created by man. I was raised a Catholic and much of what I believe was formed by that. But I do not think public policy should be based on any religion per se.
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Sat Nov-22-03 01:32 PM
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First I must plead guilty to using my own term - repugnicants - here on DU. I never use it if I'm discussing politics with anyone. It is name calling and I guess I take license here on this site. I have also called Bush names but often capitalize his name because I believe the issues are to be taken seriously. I also have always resented Republican candidates who refer to whoever is running against them as "my opponent". It is insulting to the nth degree. But I digress.
I don't hate, either. I was and still am angry as hell at those people who spent 8 years unable to do anything productive for the country because the only thing on their minds was obsessive blind hatred toward the Clintons. We should rise above those people and not direct that same hatred at Bush or his family. Focus on his policies and how they impact Americans. Defeat him in 2004 and that will be more gratifying than anything.
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Sat Nov-22-03 01:38 PM
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Sat Nov-22-03 01:36 PM
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8. I tried telling people this |
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but no one will listen. Everyone would rather be emotional and treat politics as a football game.
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Sat Nov-22-03 01:38 PM
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10. this wasn't an apologia for bush hatred |
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I have nothing to apologize for.
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Sat Nov-22-03 02:36 PM
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I didn't mean to imply that hatred is not justified. Politically, it is a ticket to failure.
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Sat Nov-22-03 01:44 PM
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13. I don't make fun of Bush's daughters |
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I make fun of his parenting. I like the Bush girls, perhaps we could do some gravity bongs and some beer bongs together. If I thought that was wrong across the board that might be considered teasing, but I don't. I hope that they don't become alchoholics and druggies, but I do hope that they are their own people.
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Sat Nov-22-03 01:55 PM
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19. Just show me the way to stalk...I'll be there...Hmmm, maybe the |
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Edited on Sat Nov-22-03 01:57 PM by Oracle
local republican HQ...not many fanatical right wingers here in Humboldt County...
Oh yeah...I hate, despise and would love to bitch slap the moran Bush, for hours and hours and hours, oh man, I'm orgasmic, stop it...
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