My response to someone who took the JFK Quiz and believes Oswald did it.

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Sun Nov-23-03 05:08 PM
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My response to someone who took the JFK Quiz and believes Oswald did it.

All statements are TRUE.

My response (in BOLD) follows the explanation of the test taker.

1. The first NYT headline article reported that JFK was hit in the front of the throat.
You say:
I don't know if that's true or false but I do know it is completely irrelevant.

SHOT IN THE FRONT AND THIS IS IRRELEVANT?I SHOULD STOP RIGHT HERE. I'LL CONTINUE ANYWAY. I WANT TO FIND SOME MORE OF YOUR NUGGETS OF WISDOM.

2. Oswald had a below average marksmanship rating in the marines.
You say:
False, but even if it were true he could have made the shots easily. The longest one was only 88 yards.

EASILY? NO ONE HAS EVER DUPLICATED IT. IN 40 YEARS.

3. Nixon, who was in Dallas attending a Pepsi convention, at first claimed he wasn't sure of his whereabouts on 11/22/63.
You say:
Maybe true but also irrelevant.

DO YOU KNOW WHERE YOU WERE THAT DAY?

4. Poppy Bush has never been able to account for his whereabouts on 11/22/63.
You say:
Again, irrelevant

DO YOU KNOW WHERE YOU WERE THAT DAY?

5. E. Howard Hunt was proven to be a liar in court in claiming that he was not in Dallas on 11/22/63.
You say:
Wait... was it Hunt or Nixon or Bush? Irrelevant.

DO YOU KNOW WHERE YOU WERE THAT DAY? WHY DID HE LIE ABOUT IT IN COURT?

6. The original JFK parade route was changed to go through Dealey Plaza.
You say:
If the route was changed then what were all the people doing lining the street? Why was Zapruder filming if he didn't know JFK was coming down Elm?

THEY CHANGED IT DAYS BEFORE...THAT'S WHY.

7. No one has ever been able to duplicate the shooting "performance" of Oswald (three hits in 5.6 seconds) at Dealey Plaza, even after the tree blocking his view was cut down.
You say:
You're wrong about the time. It was over 8 seconds. You can see reactions to the first shot which missed setting the exact time.

NO IT WAS 5.6 SECONDS. THAT'S FROM THE ZAPRUDER FILM. CHECK THE WARREN REPORT. READ "SIX SECONDS IN DALLAS" BY JOSIAH THOMPSON.

8. The murder weapon was first declared to be a German Mauser, but then it was changed to an Italian Mannlicher Carcano.
You say:
Those two weapons look very similar, almost identical. A simple mistake.

A SIMPLE MISTAKE? OH, I SEE. MUST BE IF YOU SAY SO.

9. The Oswald rifle was considered defective, with a poorly aligned scope.
You say:
Not true. The scope could have been misaligned when Oswald threw it behind the boxes where it was found.

THE WARREN COMMSSION SAID THREE SPENT CARTRIDGES WERE FOUND NEATLY PLACED ON THE FLOOR. BUT OSWALD WAS IN SUCH A RUSH THAT HE THREW DOWN THE RIFLE. SEEMS CONTRADICTORY TO ME.

10. There is no taped recording or transcript of Oswald's interrogation by the Dallas police.
You say:
Sadly true, but also irrelevant.

IRRELEVANT? WHY, BECAUSE IT MAKES NO SENSE?

11. Oswald maintained he was a "just a patsy", proclaimed he was innocent and asked for a lawyer.
You say:
If he just killed the president why would we trust him at his word? He also killed a police officer. You never heard a murderer claim he was innocent before?

DID HE GET A LAWYER? NO. DID HE GET SHOT SOON AFTER? YES. I THOUGHT HE KILLED JFK FOR THE GLORY. YOU WOULD THINK HE WOULD BE PROUD.

12. Lyndon Johnson, just before he died, claimed he never believed the Warren Commission report.
You say:
I have no idea but irrelevant.

LBJ SAYS HE DOESN'T BELIEVE IT AND YOU SAY THAT IS IRRELEVANT?

13. Richard Nixon was quoted as saying the Warren Report was the greatest fiction ever perpetrated.
You say:
This contradicts #3 where you claim Nixon was involved.

I NEVER SAID HE WAS INVOLVED. I ONLY SAID THAT HE "FORGOT" HE WAS IN DALLAS THAT DAY. DON'T PUT WORDS IN MY MOUTH.

14. The magic bullet, which supposedly passed through JFK and meandered through Connally's wrist and thigh, was found in pristine condition, having fewer grains of metal missing than grains left in Connally's hand and side.
You say:
Untrue, the bullet was not pristine. It was missing a chunk from the tip and a good deal more lead had been squeezed out of the base when it was flattened.

WRONG. IT WAS PRISTINE. LOOK AT #399. STOP THE BS.

15. Connally himself claimed that he was NOT hit by the same bullet that hit JFK, because he heard the shot and was was wounded AFTER he turned to see JFK hit.
You say:
Connaly said he couldn't tell exactly. He had just been shot, after all.

WRONG. CONNALLY SAID HE WAS DEFINITELY NOT HIT BY THE SAME BULLET, BECAUSE HE HEARD THE SOUND OF THE BULLET, CAUSING HIM TO TURN AROUND. BULLETS TRAVEL MUCH FASTER THAN THE SPEED OF SOUND.

16. Kennedy's brain was stolen from the archives.
You say:
Kennedy's brain was destroyed by Robert Kennedy so that his brother's remains would not become a circus side show for conspiracy theorists.

THAT IS A MYTH. YOU REALLY EXPECT US TO BELIEVE THAT RFK WAS AFRAID THEY WOULD PARADE JFK'S BRAIN AROUND TOWN?

17. JFK declared his intent to pull out of Vietnam after he was re-elected in 1964.
You say:
Maybe true, I honestly don't know but am open to the possibilty.

IT WAS TRUE. AND HIS ENEMIES DID NOT LIKE THE IDEA.

18. The Zapruder film clearly shows JFK falling backward and getting hit in the front just above the right ear.
You say:
So wrong. The film shows JFK's head pitch forward at the point of impact and his brains go shooting up and forward. He then rocks back afterwards.

COME ON. DENY. DENY. DENY. SHOULD I BELIEVE YOU OR MY LYING EYES?

19. The House Select Committee on Assassinations declared that the JFK murder was a conspiracy, primarily because acoustical evidence proved there were at least 4 shots fired.
You say:
Not exactly. The audio evidence was the ONLY thing the used to reach that conclusion. It has since been shown that the tests were flawed because the officer was not where he needed to be to make it work.

THE TESTS WERE CONFIRMED BY A NUMBER OF EXPERTS. THE SOUNDS OF THE SHOTS WERE SYNCHRONIZED WITH THE ZAPRUDER FILM. I BELIEVE THE EXPERTS.

20. Jack Ruby claimed that his he for killed Oswald so that Ms. Kennedy would not have to endure a trial.
You say:
Jack Ruby also claimed he was a hero because he got the guy who,"killed my president!"

AND YOU BELIEVE THAT B.S. HE WAS A GUN-RUNNER WHO SMUGGLED WEAPONS TO ANTI-CASTRO CUBANS, AGAINST THE WISHES OF JFK.

21. Ruby asked the Warren Commission to fly him to Washington, D.C. so that he could testify freely, which he felt he could not do in Dallas.
You say:
Ruby was a loon and didn't understand why he wasn't being treated like a hero.

RUBY WAS IN DEBT TO THE MAFIA. ONLY YOU SAY HE WAS A LOON. HOW DID HE GET IN THE BASEMENT?

22. The Army was ordered to "stand-down" in Dallas on 11/22/63.
You say:
Good thing the Mexicans didn't decide to invade us that day.

YOU AVOID THE FACT WITH A LAME JOKE. IS THAT YOUR BEST ANSWER?

23. Oswald was found calmly sipping a Coke by the Dallas police on the first floor of the Texas School Book Depository within a minute of the shots being fired.
You say:
Do you get winded going DOWN stairs? I don't.

HE RAN DOWN 5 FLOORS IN 90 SECONDS AND WAS FOUND CALMLY SIPPING A COKE. NO BIG DEAL. SURE.

24. Although scores of witnesses claimed to have seen and heard shots coming from the front (Grassy Knoll) the Warren Commission never interviewed these witnesses, and took the word of a single witness that shots were from behind on the 6th floor of the TSBD.
You say:
More witnesses said they thought the shot came from the book depository.

NOT TRUE. MOST SAID THE SHOTS CAME FROM THE GRASSY KNOLL. MANY RAN TO THE KNOLL RIGHT AFTER THE SHOTS WERE FIRED. AT LEAST ONE PERSON SAW TWO GUNMEN BEHIND THE KNOLL. CHECK YOUR FACTS. WATCH "THE MEN WHO KILLED KENNEDY" ON THE HISTORY CHANNEL.

25. There is incontrovertible evidence that the autopsy photos were "touched-up" to hide the true nature of the head wounds.
You say:
I don't think so.

YOU DON'T THINK SO? IS THAT YOUR BEST ANSWER? READ "BEST EVIDENCE" BY DAVID LIFTON. OF COURSE, YOU PROBABLY NEVER HEARD OF THE BOOK.

26. The magic bullet theory is the lynchpin of the Warren Commission finding that three bullets were fired and Oswald acted alone. IF FOUR BULLETS WERE FIRED, THEN THERE HAD TO BE AT LEAST TWO GUNMAN.
You say:
True!! Finally! Good thing the single bullet is easily shown to be a fact to anyone willing to accept the obvious.

SO YOU AGREE THERE HAD TO BE AT LEAST TWO GUNMEN. BECAUSE AT LEAST 4 BULLETS WERE FIRED. I AM GLAD YOU AGREE. THERE WAS A CONSPIRACY.

27. The grains of metal missing from the "magic bullet" is less than the grains found in Connally
You say:
You already said this.

I KNOW. BUT IT IS WORTH REPEATING.

28. Gov. and Ms. Connally always claimed that he could not have been struck by the same bullet which hit JFK.
Not true, they were unable to tell exactly what happened, this is another repeat.

NOT TRUE. THEY WERE ADAMANT ON THIS.

29. Acoustic evidence (HSCA) proved to a 95% PROBABILITY that at least 4 bullets were fired.
True IF the officer was at a specific point at the corner of Elm street. Photographic evidence shows he was nearly a block away. Another repeat.

THIS EVIDENCE WAS PRESENTED BY THE HSCA IN 1977. WERE YOU ALIVE THEN?

30. The Zapruder film clearly shows JFK being hit in the front right side of the head and FALLING SHARPLY BACK AND TO THE LEFT..
You say:
Another repeat. His head goes forward first, then back.

ONCE AGAIN, WORTH REPEATING. WHAT FILM ARE YOU WATCHING?

31. Isaac Newton's theory (F=MA) of force and acceleration, presented in Physics 101, is still valid today.
You say:
I would hope so. It proves the shot came from behind.

THE FILM SAYS OTHERWISE. BACK. TO THE LEFT. BACK. TO THE LEFT.
BACK. TO THE LEFT. BACK. TO THE LEFT. BACK. TO THE LEFT.
GOT IT YET?

32. Political assassinations, as hard as it may be for many to accept, have taken place in the U.S. But none in Denial.
You say:
I don't understand this one, sorry.

YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND? OR YOU REFUSE TO CONCEDE THAT IT IS TRUE? WHICH IS IT?