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DoveTurnedHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 05:18 PM Original message |
Latest Poll: Dean Down by (20 or 12) To Bush, Clark Down by 7 (Best) |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 05:19 PM Response to Original message |
1. That's not what the Time poll shows. That's a misprint. |
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DoveTurnedHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 05:20 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Really? That'd Make Me Feel a Little Better. Do You Have a Link? |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 05:21 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Here it is: |
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DoveTurnedHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 05:22 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Weird, That Would Be a MAJOR Screw-Up by Yahoo |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 05:24 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Can you change the title to be more accurate? |
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Jerseycoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 05:31 PM Response to Reply #4 |
17. That's it? |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 05:32 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. CNN had the number on TV several times. Bush leads Dean by 12. |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 06:12 PM Response to Reply #21 |
73. Notice how they showed Kerry and Clark.. the two guys ... |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 06:15 PM Response to Reply #73 |
76. Exactly. Keep Kerry and Clark's profiles down while boosting Dean's |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 08:16 PM Response to Reply #21 |
99. CNN loves Dean. |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 08:32 PM Response to Reply #99 |
101. *snarf* |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 06:08 PM Response to Reply #2 |
67. My response: Check out Drudge "Iraqi Teens Savage American Soldiers" |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 06:29 PM Response to Reply #67 |
82. Yes, but you are conveniently not mentioning |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 06:50 PM Response to Reply #82 |
85. Clark always has a long-winded answer |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 07:47 PM Response to Reply #85 |
91. Oh, you decided, huh? Let's see, October 2002: |
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mikehiggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 12:41 AM Response to Reply #85 |
107. Clark has thoughtful answers |
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Bread and Circus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 07:54 PM Response to Reply #67 |
92. If Dean was so against it, why would he have been for it... |
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NewYorkerfromMass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 11:19 PM Response to Reply #92 |
103. because Dean wasn't all that against it |
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Gloria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 05:20 PM Response to Original message |
3. An article in my paper today said that Bush had bumped up because of |
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AmericanDem (521 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 05:22 PM Response to Original message |
5. This is no shocker to me |
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Julien Sorel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 05:43 PM Response to Reply #5 |
41. Clark is still working on name recognition. |
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MoonRiver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 08:10 PM Response to Reply #41 |
95. Clark IS presidential material. |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 05:22 PM Response to Original message |
6. What people miss about these polls is that right now Dean ISN'T running |
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DoveTurnedHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 05:24 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. I Don't Think That's Entirely True |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 05:30 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. You see, I don't agree with you on the electability thing... |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 05:31 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Dean is only down 12. DTH and Yahoo somehow got the number wrong. |
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DoveTurnedHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 05:32 PM Response to Reply #15 |
22. Dean Is More in Touch With the Base |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 05:42 PM Response to Reply #22 |
40. Politics 101--secure your base, then reach out to others |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 06:32 PM Response to Reply #40 |
83. There won't be plenty of time later |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 06:17 PM Response to Reply #11 |
77. Clark takes votes from Bush. Dean doesn't. That's what... |
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bearfartinthewoods (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 05:29 PM Original message |
but the depressing thing is , bush isn't running yet either |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 05:32 PM Response to Original message |
20. No, but he's on CNN all friggin day--the other candidates don't garner |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 06:13 PM Response to Reply #20 |
74. and Dean gets all the oxygen from the media for the Dems |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 06:14 PM Response to Reply #6 |
75. And neither are the other guys. So? |
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retyred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 08:27 PM Response to Reply #6 |
100. The difference is that Clark |
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bearfartinthewoods (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 05:23 PM Response to Original message |
8. how is this shocking? |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 05:23 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. He isn't down by 20. That's a misprint. He is down by 12. |
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bearfartinthewoods (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 06:18 PM Response to Reply #9 |
78. give him time.........he'll hit 20 |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 06:19 PM Response to Reply #78 |
79. I tend to agree. The worse things get in Iraq the least likely |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 06:55 PM Response to Reply #79 |
87. Wrong |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 07:20 PM Response to Reply #87 |
89. It's been proven that Dean has consistently been against the war. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 06:23 PM Response to Reply #9 |
81. I'm not taking the gamble.... |
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JanMichael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 05:26 PM Response to Original message |
12. Please edit the mistaken subject line! You know it's a misprint! |
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DoveTurnedHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 05:27 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Dude, RELAX |
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JanMichael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 05:34 PM Response to Reply #13 |
26. Hey, not panicking, just tired of mislead crap. |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 05:37 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. It's alright---I asked for this thread to be locked unless he changes the |
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DoveTurnedHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 05:43 PM Response to Reply #30 |
42. I'm Not Going to Be Intimidated by You, Certainly |
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DoveTurnedHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 05:41 PM Response to Reply #26 |
36. I'm Not Convinced It's a Yahoo Error |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 05:44 PM Response to Reply #36 |
43. It is a Reuters article quoted by Yahoo. |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 05:29 PM Response to Original message |
14. I would wait until people know more about each of the candidates. |
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DoveTurnedHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 05:30 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Again, Disagree |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 05:35 PM Response to Reply #16 |
27. These aren't polls of those who do have opinions one way or the other. |
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Bombtrack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 05:31 PM Response to Original message |
18. ex- friggin- actly |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 05:32 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. He isn't down by that margin. DTH and Yahoo have the number wrong. |
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Bombtrack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 05:37 PM Response to Reply #23 |
29. What is Edwards name recognition? |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 05:38 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. It's actually about the same from things I saw in the past. |
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Bombtrack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 05:41 PM Response to Reply #31 |
39. which is???????? |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 05:33 PM Response to Original message |
24. please take the 20 out of your post title-----it's misleading |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 05:39 PM Response to Reply #24 |
32. Please re-edit your subject line----again, it is misleading |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 05:40 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. He's doing this intentionally to attempt to hurt Dean. |
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DoveTurnedHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 05:44 PM Response to Reply #35 |
44. Sorry You Don't Like the News |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 05:46 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. Well, start with the correct facts first. |
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DoveTurnedHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 05:47 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. So YOU Say |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 05:50 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. I saw the data on CNN today and on their website yesterday. |
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Jerseycoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 05:50 PM Response to Reply #35 |
53. ..attempt to hurt Dean |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 05:52 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. It was CNN too. They showed that data on CNNHN all day yesterday. |
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Bombtrack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 05:40 PM Response to Reply #24 |
33. maybe you need to take math again |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 05:45 PM Response to Reply #33 |
45. It is Zero sum meanind Dean can have plus 2.7 and Clark can have minus 2.7 |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 06:04 PM Response to Reply #33 |
63. No |
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tritsofme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 05:33 PM Response to Original message |
25. Polls mean nothing today, |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 05:37 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Besides the fact that this data isn't accurate. |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 05:41 PM Response to Reply #28 |
38. that's true, so fess up, DTH |
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DoveTurnedHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 05:45 PM Response to Reply #38 |
46. Take It Up With Reuters/Yahoo |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 05:47 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. Why don't you put up the actual poll data rather than what the article say |
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_Jumper_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 06:03 PM Response to Reply #28 |
61. Edwards? |
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jsw_81 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 05:40 PM Response to Original message |
34. Polls at this stage are meaningless |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 05:41 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. Besides Dean isn't trailing by that much. He trails by 12 which is not the |
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DoveTurnedHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 05:46 PM Response to Reply #37 |
48. It's Worse Than Clark |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 05:48 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. That I concede, but you are being misleading. |
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_Jumper_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 05:52 PM Response to Original message |
54. n/t |
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farmbo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 05:53 PM Response to Original message |
56. BOGUS... Dean's behind 39 to 52...with only 58% name recognition |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 05:55 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. oooh, good point |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 05:58 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. Link please? |
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farmbo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 06:11 PM Response to Reply #58 |
72. Ohio Poll Nov 10th |
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_Jumper_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 06:01 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. How much name ID do the other candidates have? |
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oxymoron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 06:03 PM Response to Reply #56 |
62. well within the margin of error. n/t |
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Donna Zen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 06:02 PM Response to Original message |
60. 12-20 makes a difference |
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oxymoron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 06:04 PM Response to Reply #60 |
64. spot on. (nt) |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 06:04 PM Response to Reply #60 |
65. how's this for polarizing? |
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_Jumper_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 06:08 PM Response to Reply #65 |
69. How much name ID do the other candidates have? |
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Donna Zen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 07:55 PM Response to Reply #65 |
94. Okay, let 's put it this way |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 06:06 PM Response to Original message |
66. He has wrong figures, need to change before the hour is up. Alert on it. |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 06:08 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. I already alerted on it.....it's obviously a misleading title |
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shrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 06:09 PM Response to Original message |
70. As I said on the LBN thread, I've seen other polls with Clark doing much |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 06:10 PM Response to Original message |
71. Yet, people in NH and MA think Dean would do the best.. |
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Snellius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 06:19 PM Response to Original message |
80. Considering most people have never heard of them |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 06:38 PM Response to Original message |
84. You may think you won, but you did not. |
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DoveTurnedHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 10:42 PM Response to Reply #84 |
102. Christ, What Is WITH All the WHINING? |
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spooky3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 06:54 PM Response to Original message |
86. I have yet to see a single TV ad from any of the Dem candidates |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 07:17 PM Response to Reply #86 |
88. here's Dean's TV ad in response to Bush |
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HerbsDSV@msn.com (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 07:42 PM Response to Original message |
90. Clark should play a prominate role in 2004 |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 07:55 PM Response to Reply #90 |
93. Wow! How very generous of you! We're so flatered! |
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adadem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 08:11 PM Response to Original message |
96. Zogby says |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 08:14 PM Response to Reply #96 |
97. You trust them |
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Bread and Circus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 08:16 PM Response to Original message |
98. Whatever the numbers are now, it doesn't take a rocket scientist |
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Gringo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 11:42 PM Response to Original message |
104. Dean ***IS*** the most electable. |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-03 11:43 PM Response to Reply #104 |
105. Clark ***IS*** the most electable. |
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NewYorkerfromMass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-03 12:22 AM Response to Reply #104 |
106. I believe Dean does better in these polls now then in an actual campaign |
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