Wes Clark is on C-Span now

[FrenchieCat]

New Hamphire Bedford Village Inn-

This guy is a natural.

[FrenchieCat]

1. Just called AARP

a sell out.

[maddezmom]

2. He is GREAT!!

doing a great job bringing up issues.

[xultar]

3. He's got class, he even complemented John Kerry! n/t

[Renew Deal]

4. Thanks

I just got in. This is a nice treat.

[Kahuna]

5. Wow. Does he look cute...

:loveya:

[FrenchieCat]

8. Isn't it nice

to be able to look at the possible President and actually enjoy the experience!

Sense of humor and charm is turned on!

[Renew Deal]

6. His tone changes when he gets serious.

I think he is getting his speeces down straight.

[Myra]

7. Thank you!

I've been trying to find him on the tube today!

[Renew Deal]

9. He's ridin' shotgun on the Wes Express

:D

[eileen_d]

11. Yeah, I liked that too

The guy is so darn personable.

"I didn't come here to bash George Bush. I came here to ask you to help me to replace him."

[FrenchieCat]

10. We can do better....

WAY BETTER! That's for sure.

[Renew Deal]

12. Talking homeland security and jobs policy.

Very nice. Also wants to avoid taxes getting raised locally.

[Nlighten1]

13. I love Clark

I hope he and Dean team up together.

[Renew Deal]

14. He has gotten really good at this.

He speaks knowingly and cleanly. Reminds me of the Big Dog.

[chimpymustgo]

16. "This is a golden moment for America"

I think he's got the vision thing.

Clark/Edwards 2004

Optimism, vision, uniting America
I think America can do better, I think we must do better, and with your help we WILL do better.

[maddezmom]

15. Just made my first round of donations to candidates

$100 to Wes, Dean, Kerry and DK for his effort on the ballot. I've got a front runner but I'll support all Dems that work against Bush*.

[Toucano]

21. Good for you! Thank you! n/t

[ramapo]

22. And the media scoffs...

Wes is great. I've been so impressed with him and I think he has unbeatable creditentials. Just listen to him...he actually knows what he's talking about.

I've heard media "pundits" scoff at this large field of "little" candidates.

[Renew Deal]

17. Fiery close to the speech.

We can do better. We will do better.

[slinkerwink]

20. where have I heard that before?

;-)

[FrenchieCat]

18. Gert's cute....

She's lucky too!

[Toucano]

23. He clearly adores her.

What a nice change that will be.

[Renew Deal]

19. Criteria used for VP.

Looking for Someone that:

could be president
man or woman (wife corrected him) lots of laughs
compassion
integrity
vision
team player
puts good of the ocuntry above their personal interests

Man or woman who could be a good team member with him.

Does this sound like Dean. Not sure?

[chimpymustgo]

25. Dean - team member? I don't think so...

Integrity - nope.

[Renew Deal]

24. Clark implied Bushco isn't finding Osama

intentionally.

[chimpymustgo]

27. Yep - hitting hard.

nt

[Ksec]

26. Clark for Pres

Whether you live in a trailer park
Or a mansion on the hill
Be sure you make a check mark
On the ballot for Wes Clark

[Renew Deal]

30. That's great.

:yourock:

[LauraT28]

28. I'm watching...

The more I hear him, the more I like. He's the only one that seems genuine to me, (Dean does too, to an extent) and you can hear his passion when he speaks.

[Renew Deal]

29. I will never put party before country.

If you want a hardcore partisan, it's not me.

[Kahuna]

31. That's the theme that will get us to the holy land.

Oo. He's signing a kid's shirt. Maybe he'll sign mine when I meet him. :evilgrin:

[Renew Deal]

33. Have him sign your chest.

If you are a woman. It's total rock star.

[LauraT28]

36. LMAO!!

I was just thinking... I wonder if he would sign a woman's boobs if she asked!

Laura

[Kahuna]

38. My chest? It's..

very lumpy. :evilgrin:

[blm]

49. heheh...you are so bad.

.

[Kahuna]

56. Har! He'd be lucky to not...

get his eye poked out if he got anywhere near my chest. :evilgrin:

[FrenchieCat]

34. Finally, a candidate

that is real and sincere. That loves this country...and that's so evident!

That's why he's running!

[OKNancy]

Well I'm a hard core partisan

and I'm still voting for him.

With his liberal ideas, the Republicans will hate him, so I bet he'll change his tune really fast.

[CWebster]

32. Saw him yesterday giving a foreign policy speech

Talked alot, didn't say much.

Saw him on one of the Sunday morning shows where he did a Kerry act trying to explain away what he said then and what he says now.

He talks about getting terrorists and that always makes me nervous. In a Country that turns a blind eye to Israel's state violence, while accusing the Palestinians of blanket terrorism, can't say I have alot of confidence in his military solutions as foreign policy.

[Renew Deal]

35. Did you try to talk to him?

He is very friendly.

[chimpymustgo]

39. Did that guy just say, I was a Gov. Dean supporter this morning?

And now he's for Clark?

[Renew Deal]

42. There is a lot of that going on.

Most of the people I talk to say: I just want to know more. They usually like him when that find it out.

[FrenchieCat]

37. CWester was actually

looking in the mirror and saw someone not saying much....

Quit being Jealous.....

Hey, he just got a Dean convert.....many more where that one came from.

[Myra]

50. "someone not saying much"

Over and over and over ad nauseum.

Man oh man, Wes is one impressive speaker.
So refreshing to listen to someone with brains.

And hey, since the BFEE is playing the terra-ism,
permanent war for permanent peace, card, they've made
the case for a real military man in the white house
instead of someone who plays dress up on aircraft carriers.

[CWebster]

68. Yeah a real military man in the whitehouse, that is what matters most to

Democrats---to show the world we have a real swinging dick. I'm sure the world will appreciate it.

[Renew Deal]

72. lol

nice take :toast:

[LauraT28]

40. Better than the current administration....

I certainly wouldn't want to square off with him in a dark alley!

[Bread and Circus]

43. CWebster, this post has got to be the biggest joke....

I ever saw on DU....

It is obviously a desparate attempt to "go negative" on Clark
after a brilliant and moving speech/Q & A.

Clark scored a 10.

He out-classes the field and you know it.

[Toucano]

79. "Not saying much" is because some people

Don't LISTEN much! LOL! Pay attention, CWebster. Otherwise you may need a hearing test.

[Kahuna]

44. Our guy is beautiful and very humble.

If Clark said the same thing we just saw when saw him yesterday, I don't know how you can say that he wasn't saying anything. National security is Clark's forte. Nice try though.

[chimpymustgo]

Should that just be the stock answer to the meanies?

LOL

[Kahuna]

53. Bwa ha ha! Look at that!

Chimpy! My new best friend. Who'dda thunk it. :crazy:

[chimpymustgo]

61. Clark has the power to bring many people together!

I still love Edwards, like Kerry alot. But I feel Clark can take us to the House!

[Renew Deal]

46. One more thing

Military solutions to foreign policy? All he talks about is using allies and signing a new atlantic charter. He wants to cut defense overall. Your comment seems like a stretch.

[Myra]

41. A woman just approached him about the hideous medicare bill

And he said "I'm against it!"
Repeatedly.

[Ksec]

45. I made some signs thru my printer.

Ive got them in my yard and up in the windows.

I believe in this man to better this country and that aint something I take lightly. Clark will be one of the great ones.

[FrenchieCat]

47. Gert is really cute...

this is my first time really seeing her.

[Renew Deal]

48. His wife is very sharp.

Isn't she a doctor?

[Julien Sorel]

67. She's a general's wife. It's a much harder job,

and I'm not kidding. The military has a shadow organization of spouses that works very much like the military itself. The spouses organize and take care of each other and so on when their mates are away; and the responsibilities generally are dependant on the rank of the officer. As a general's wife, Gert would have had to be a heck of a woman -- smart, decisive, organized, a leader, and compassionate. I've liked what I've seen of her so far, but his wife was one area I never worried about; if she wasn't rock-solid, his career would have fizzled -- the role of the military spouse is that important in the military world. This isn't a Betty Ford we're talking about, and neither would it be the early Hillary. She will know how to wield her influence behind the scenes without becoming a lightning rod. I've known two wives of high-ranking military people, and seldom have I envied anyone their choice in spouses like I did those two guys -- their wives were absolute keepers.

[OKNancy]

82. This will sound possibly shallow

or maybe not since there are a lot of shallow comments on DU, but when I was a military wife ( was only active during Vietnam for a short time thank god) the wives were responsible for a vibrant social life.

They could hold dinners, and dances and events that were flawless.
If nothing else maybe Gert could liven up the social scene at the White House like Jackie did.

[democratreformed]

84. My experience with Gert

The weekend that Clark groups scheduled the national day of service was the same weekend that General Clark was at home sick.

My daughter and I made our way to Little Rock to volunteer at the cleaning and sprucing up of the Little Rock Boys and Girls Club. We were the first ones there because we live about an hour away and wanted to have plenty of time.

Gert showed up. She rolled up her sleeves and immediately began scrubbing sinks and cleaning out the store room. My daughter worked side by side with her for quite a while. She was gracious and kind and just a great lady.

All in all, it was a great experience and we accomplished a great deal at the club.

[Kahuna]

85. Can't imagine Pickles cleaning a sink.

Gert and Wes have got to be our new president and first lady. He's the president we were promised as kids. :7

[Myra]

86. That really says a lot democratreformed

Sounds like she just acted like a real person,
not a diva. Very good to know.

[democratreformed]

93. Definitely

I had a very good article from our local paper about her that I meant to keep up with but lost (stupid me!). It said basically the same thing. I have also heard her speak at one of the meet-ups and she was fantastic.

[FrenchieCat]

51. Yikes....

I just saw a Dean commercial....What was the message in it? I didn't quite get it!

[KittyWampus]

88. Dean's Campaign Fumbled With That Ad

Attacking Gep in the first half and Dean looking like he was in a police lineup during the second.

Really harsh ad. The lighting was terrible.

It doesn't do Dean any favors IMO.

Maybe it will, but I doubt it.

[Renew Deal]

52. They just showed the ad Dean lied in.

Now Gep is up. It looks like a supermarket commercial.

[Bread and Circus]

54. Clark has "found his message" with his adjournment piece...

I think the message of unity and healing is universal.

I also think it the real core of all his life's efforts.

He is an "American" candidate. I think this would resonate
in the general election in a way that would put him far
above squabling about contemporaneous issues.

I also loved his response on the arts. I think Clark is as
close to a Renaissance Man as we have running.

Man, I am so glad he is running.

[Renew Deal]

58. The arts answer is terrific.

I didn't know he was that deep on the issue.

[Myra]

69. Yeah, wasn't the arts answer a wonderful surprise?

It's like...he's an actual whole person.

Then again, his academic achievements are
as impressive as his military achievements.

I wonder how many high ranking military people
have this kind of acedemic record:

"Clark studied at Oxford University as a Rhodes Scholar from 1966 to 1968, receiving a Masters Degree in Politics, Philosophy, and Economics.
...
From 1971 to 1974, Captain Clark served as an Instructor and Assistant Professor of Social Science at West Point, teaching, among other subjects, political philosophy."

http://clark04.com/records/

[TacticalPeek]

65. The message is emerging to be as awesome as the man.

Propitious.

:)

[Renew Deal]

55. They are showing the RNC ad.

[LauraT28]

57. Pathetic curious george commercial...

What a goober...

I seriously cannot stand him...

L

[FrenchieCat]

Joe Lieberman...

are there 12 people in that room or 13?

[LauraT28]

62. Fake

Man am I sick of the typical "political" shell, fake fake fake

[Kahuna]

80. Welcome to DU, LaraT28!

:toast:

[LauraT28]

83. Thanks!

:pals:

[LauraT28]

78. Is it my imagination?

Or does Joe L seem completely UNinterested in the things people are talking to him about?

Yikes

[KittyWampus]

90. Lieberman, God Help Me, I LIKED His Ad

:D

Excepting his voice and the fact he looks like an oversized, deranged elf....

[Myra]

59. Does anyone else (besides trolls) think his health care plan is iffy?

I'm for universal health care and I don't like his
band aid approach. I consider it one of his negatives.
Obviously any improvement over the current disgraceful
situation would be a relief. But it doesn't seem
like his plan goes far enough.

[FrenchieCat]

66. I think that getting Bush out of our

White House is the best health plan and it goes far enough for me....I don't think that we can realistically think that we're also are going to get just the right plan we all pine for.

Hey, I'm originally from France and we have a good system there. But I'm a pragmatic first of all.

And unless we have a majority in both or at least one house...don't even think that we can have a "universal" anything. Let alone reverse the tax cut to have the money to fund anything.

Yes, a good plan is a great thing....But I'd rather have something than nothing.

[Bread and Circus]

70. As a doctor, I like his health care plan...

I believe in National Health Care but I know how the
biz works. Even if National Health Care was passed, it will
take a long time to transform the system.

It has taken years just for the new privacy laws and new transaction
code sets to take effect, even then insurance companies are
still filing for extensions.

National Health Care is a 10 to 15 year goal, not something
you can expect overnight. Getting folks covered and get
rising costs controlled is step 1 and 2.

Clark has consulted with some really knowlegable folks from
U of Michigan (I was told) and I think his plan reflects
smart changes with a focus on screening (something his
competitors don't do as far as I know).

Also, whatever you promise, you gotta pass. I don't see
National Health Care passing anytime soon.

Like I said, I am for it (NHC), but it's not a short term thing.

It is a long term thing.

That's my opinion, anyhow.

[Myra]

89. Thanks Frenchie4Clark, familydoctor, TacticalPeak

That input helps a lot.

They already blocked Clinton's attempt at
national health care, so maybe Clark's version
is more doable.

[TacticalPeek]

71. One must fight from the ground you are on.

cf. UHC since Truman.

(as a campaign plank, anyway)

[[e-mail]]

60. Yeah... But

I like Clark but he seems like he would make a better Vice-President than President. I'm still hoping for Dean/Clark vs. Bush/Cheney. A Doctor and a War Hero vs. a couple of oil tycoons. The GOP wouldn't stand a chance.

[Renew Deal]

63. The GOP would stand a chance

unless we turn that around. Dean is just not presidential, especially when you compare him to Clark.

[LauraT28]

64. I don't know...

I would much rather see a Clark/Dean ticket... but either way will work.

[FrenchieCat]

74. Either way will not work

are you kidding......like Clark wants to be a VP to someone who's gonna lose with a middleclass tax cut being offered to voters.

Nope, Clark does not need Dean.....unless Dean is threatening to take his voters and go home......

We know that Dean needs Clark already....REMEMBER THIS HEADLINE?
NATIONAL DESK | September 11, 2003, Thursday
Dean Asks General to Join Him in Primaries, Aides Say

By JODI WILGOREN (NYT) 520 words
Late Edition - Final , Section A , Page 14 , Column 3
ABSTRACT - Dr Howard Dean asks Gen Wesley K Clark to join his presidential campaign in some capacity if Clark decides against making run himself (M)

[LauraT28]

77. Didn't say it would happen....

But it would be a really strong ticket.

[Myra]

92. It would be a very strong ticket

No doubt about it.
Military man, scholar, medical doctor,
experience leading a state, all in
one package.

[Jonnycat26]

87. Seconded

I second you on that, I'd much rather see a Clark/Dean ticket than vice versa. I just don't think Dean can generate traction with middle america.

[MoonRiver]

73. He's awesome. Wes and Gert simply glow with joy and energy!

They are a beautiful, loving couple.

Everything The General said resonated to the depths of my being. He KNOWS Iraq was a done deal even before * stole Gore's job. And (reading between the lines) when he follows statements like that with his observation that as soon as 9/11 happened bushies were trying to make an al Qaeda/Hussein link, I believe he suspects * of lihop. Just mho, however.

GO GENERAL CLARK!!!!!!!!! :loveya:

[Skwmom]

75. Please email CSPAN and

nicely ask them to air Clark's ad. I thought maybe they weren't running it because they had already shown the NH speech but they showed Lieberman's ad and he's on next. In addition, they showed the same ads this morning with out showing Clark's ad.

I don't think it was very fair to Gephardt to show Dean's attack ad without showing Gephardt's response ad.

[Renew Deal]

76. Clarks and Geps ad are new.

That's probably why.

[Kahuna]

81. This will be replayed at 9:30 et if anyone missed it.

I recommend watching it. It's not the same old, blah blah.

[welshTerrier2]

91. very impressive

i caught the end of Clark's q&a ...

from my vantage point, this was the second consecutive time I gave Clark my "very impressive" rating ... i'm not supporting anyone right now, btw ...

i spent some time this morning thinking about how damaged our fragile democracy has become ... the country has become so polarized that government can no longer function ... two factors contribute to this:
1. an ideological divide among americans and
2. an extremist right-wing agenda being pushed by the GOP

Clark seemed sincere in his commitment to "put the country before party" ... while this might not win him many votes among the most partisan democrats, i think this is not only the right thing to do but i also think it's a political winner in the general (no pun intended) election ...

I think americans see the paralysis in their government ... i think we are not served by having left and right fight to a draw ... this is not to argue for centrist policies, btw ... quite the opposite ... it is only to argue for an independence of mind and an integrity on addressing the issues this country faces ...

[Bread and Circus]

94. good post, kick

:kick: