There's Nothing in the Constitution Against Taxation.

[camero]

It's against taxation without representation. As it stands now, the poor and middle class are the ones getting taxed and the rich and corporations are the ones getting represented.

The founding fathers saw taxes as necessary for a government to function but that government should also serve the people and not just the elite.

So a good talking point for Dems would be: You're going to be taxed no matter what. Do you want to be represented? Then vote for us because Bush will not represent you. He will represent the wealthy.
We are the party of the working class and work to keep things like Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, and the like.

[Andy_Stephenson]

1. Ah but the taxing structure

said no direct taxes and if you did have they they should be apportioned.

The 16th was never ratified.

[camero]

3. To be apportioned

They did not say how. But that was the rallying cry of the Revolutionary War and the Delaration of Independence. They have again made laws without our consent and taxed us without representing us.

[dawgman]

2. true constutional conservatives argue that

anything not EXPRESSLY stated in the constitution is for the states to decide therefore federal taxation would be unconstitutional... that being said, you are very right I have NO representation at any level of state or federal gov't. I am a person not a conglomerate.

[camero]

4. You're right

It's the 10th that states that. The constitution expressly gave Congress the power to levy tariffs and duties. Which means free trade would be kaput. But that's another issue.

I think it would play well with seniors as they were around when the government was about "everybody pays, everybody plays".

[camero]

5. The premise stands

We are being taxed but not represented.

[soothsayer]

6. talk to the residents of washington dc

they've never had representation

but i do like your premise

[camero]

7. yeah, DC should have statehood

different subject though. Anyone who is not one of Bush's campaign contributors doesn't get represented. The melding together of government and business is fascism.