Who is the most Corrupt President?

[coloradodem2005]

This is not a poll.


One can pick from any of the US Presidents. Or even a top 5 most corrupt Presidents list would be entertaining.

[grannylib]

1. 1. Bush II 2. Rayguns 3. Bush I 4. Nixon 5. LBJ

[JailBush]

2. Well, George Washingon owned slaves and killed more Native

Americans than George W. Bush did. However, I suspect Dubya is the most corrupt U.S. president since the early 20th century.

[Cleita]

5. Gotta agree.

There was also Nixon, a close second, but even Nixon had a line he would'nt cross, but Dubya is absolutely corrupt.

[Syrinx]

20. George Washington, a corrupt president?

Think that over a moment. There would be no USA if not for Washington.

I wish we had someone of his caliber in the White House now.

[pdove]

3. It is so obvious to see with affairs like Enron (nt)

[soothsayer]

4. of modern presidents

LBJ, #1, for pulling off an assassination

#2, Shrub, for all the reasons we discuss here

#3 Reagan for his illegal iran/contra thing

#4 Nixon, for numerous reasons

[coloradodem2005]

6. Are you implying...

...that Johnson had Kennedy killed? I have not heard about that one. I just thought that he through misguided reasoning got the US in Vietnam. Tell me more.

[mitchum]

12. calling bullshit on the LBJ smear

[soothsayer]

27. hey, how come you're not mad at "tacit approval of a coup de tat"

below?

yeesh

[mitchum]

35. that's been rectified

nothing personal, but the other post wasn't there earlier

[Faygo Kid]

7. 1. Bush II 2. Nixon 3. Harding, Reagan - who cares? 1 and 2 rule

Never thought I would see a more corrupt administration than Nixon's, but starting a preemptive war on the basis of lies has got to go to the top. We won't even get started on the other lies.

[caledesi]

8. Bush II, Harding and Nixon. nt

[SiobhanClancy]

28. Excellent choices...

I agree with the choices,and the order they are in.

[mb7588a]

9. Nixon, Dubya et al, Andrew Johnson, LBJ, Reagan

You all overlooked Andrew Johnson. :P

One thing to learn from these lists.. Oil corrupts absolutely.

[leftofthedial]

10. Bush 2

Reagan

Bush 1

Nixon

But that's just the last 30 years.

And after that, the Repugs control the Executive, the Congress and the Supreme court. Americans are hopelessly stupid.

[Dirk39]

11. Clinton...

Hello from Germany! Flame me now!
Bush isn't corrupt, I never had the smallest doubts of what this guy is about. Same is true for his father.
But Clinton somehow lipserved everyone and did just represent corporate interests. He did offend those on welfare and the unemployed in a cynical way, he advertised himself as the healthy guy with the healthy american family, he did use his fabricated private life as a tool to win the election. Besides this, I wouldn't have any problems with his affairs, I don't care about his private life, but he made it an advertising and public relation tool and paid the bill for this.
What he did to the environment in defending corporate interests isn't comparable even to the worst republicans. The war against Yuguslavia was just as illegal and criminal as the war against Iraq. And the terrorists, the UCK, he sold to the world as freedom fighters? I have t0 admit, I'm even convinced that Clinton would have started the war against Iraq, if he would still be the president. He would just have managed it as a kind of multilateral pop-event, preventing a new Ausschwitz. He's making me puke just like Schröder and Blair. Don't get me wrong: I would rather buy Clintons' last CD than Bushs', and he's so smart, but I better live without politicians as him.
Dirk

[coloradodem2005]

14. Standing up for Clinton

Clinton did have his personal problems, but didn't he have a coalition in Bosnia? Also many of the things that you say about Clinton are things that I think of *. Clinton was not perfect, and he may have been corrupt, but at least people were happy and working.
It's all in how you look at it.

[Dirk39]

17. I don't care for his personal problems....

if he's happy with 124 Monicas and the Monicas are happy, too. Fine with me, have fun. It's not about this. But if you make your faked private life an advertizing column, you shouldn't cry, when your opponents reply on the same level. Didn't have enough time to ask all the american citizens, how happy they were under Clinton. When he was just completely desperate, he did one thing, to give some people work, as a kind of proftit from the neoliberal global cold war, he was a part of. And giving work to some americans for some time was so important for him, that he risked to destabilize dozens of other countries.
I just was so happy when he did win after decades of republicans (same here in Germany with Schröder and in GB with Blair). But it just turned into a nightmare. i will never forget, sitting in my apartment after he did win the election, and having some hope against my own knowledge, and then hearing him making these disgusting statements about unemployed people. At least he prevented me from voting for Schröder here in Germany! Thanx Bill!
Dirk

[leftofthedial]

15. that is delusional

First, I agree that he was far more corporatist than I would prefer, but he's not even in the same league as either of the Bushes or Reagan. Not even close. Corporations influenced Clinton, they CONTROL Bush.

Second, he disappointed me on the environment, but again, not even remotely at the level of the current Bush, who would strip mine the planet if someone gave his campaign $100K.

Third, There was no such place as Yugoslavia. Clinton intervened in Bosnia in the face of GENOCIDE. The execution of that intervention was not perfect, but it PALES next to the Bush I and II legacy in Iraq. The Europeans were collectively incapable of cleaning their own house and Clinton took timely and decisive action. Looking at the region now, I'd say he was pretty damned successful. Not perfect, but successful.

I've appreciated your posts, Dirk39, but this one leaves me dumbfounded.

[Dirk39]

19. If you have some time, please

study the role of the IMF and the worldbank in former Yuguslavia, before those "ethnic wars" started, always mixed with economical interests.
Germany played the worst part in this war, esp. Genscher, but Clinton was interested, too. And the lies that were told to us, here in Europe as in the USA, to justify this war are just disgusting.
Did you ever wonder about the reasons, that the trial against Milosovic is just about completely ignored by our media?
Dirk

[seasat]

26. That is total crap on Clinton and the environment!

I'm an oceanographer and followed Clinton's environmental agenda with interest. He expanded the Clean Water and Clean Air act. He appointed Carol Browner to the EPA who is a "true believer" environmentalist. The EPA under Clinton agressively pursued corporate polluters including suing many coal fired generation plants that were trying to skirt upgrading air pollution standards. Clinton's administration funded research into hybrid car systems which is probably the best current technology for improving milage. The Clinton administration negotiated the Kyoto treaty for the US. Super Fund cleanups were about 4 times what Shrub has been doing. He had one of the largest expansions of protected species. Banned roads in national forests.

Those are just a few of the environmental gains that occured under Clinton that I can pull off the top of my head. I can fill up pages with gains if I do some research. I can also fill up pages with losses to the environment under the last three Repuke presidents especially the "brown shrub".

[Dirk39]

29. What about this?

"The image of the Democrats as protectors of flora and fauna has been echoed by the media as well. Yet the Clinton administration's environmental record is almost indistinguishable from that of Republican George Bush. As Jeff St. Clair, editor of the Oregon-based Wild Forest Review, notes, the Clinton administration has been the No. 1 cheerleader for a business-friendly environmentalism that has forsaken pollution prevention in favor of pollution control. "Clinton's policies are similar to Bush's, but Bush was checked by Congress. ...Clinton has been able to implement the type of policies that Bush could only propose."

article

And didn't Clinton make the most "progressive" decision, when it was already clear, that he was lost?
Dirk

[mitchum]

13. Reagan, Bush I, Bush II, Harding, Nixon

[Catherine Vincent]

16. Dick Cheney

Everyone knows he's running the show and * is the puppet.

[Syrinx]

18. Bush and Bush are tied

Since they are part of the same outfit.

After that... well there's no comparison. The rest of the presidents are saints compared to the BFEE.

[Jack Rabbit]

21. George W. Bush cannot possibly be most corrupt president ever

He lost the election.

[cliss]

22. My vote:

#1 worst president: Bush II

#2 worst president: Bush I

This is not to say that Bush I is better than Bush II. It's just that the child is in my face and in my thoughts so much of the time. The dad is more in the background.

Words simply fall short for what I could like to say about the son. I can't. Suffice it to say that this man is the most evil, vile sinister human being (I'm not sure if he is part of our race) that ever walked the face of this earth.

[arewethereyet]

23. probably LBJ

tacit approval of a coup de tait has to rank right up there

[Melodybe]

24. Bush will definitely go down in history as the worst President ever...

however, we can thank him for being so bad that we will now usher in a new and better era. Bob Marley, John Lennon, MLK, Noam Chomsky, JFK, and Ghandi, are the prophets of a new age.

[EX-CONservative]

25. Warren G. Harding

Teapot Dome and dumber than Bush!

[Snellius]

30. Corruption is so pervasive among Republicans today

they don't even see it as immoral or abnormal anymore. It's like the mafia. It's just a way of doing business. Rove, DeLay, the RNC, big media, big corporations, civic groups, churches, have all become part of a vast, self-promoting power machine.

[terrya]

31. Bush II, Nixon, Harding, Grant. eom

[Astarho]

32. My Top 5

Bush II
Harding
Nixon
Grant
Hayes

[Beaker]

33. Your choice of verbs is right on-

"who IS the most corrupt president?"

If the answer were anyone but the Lil' Dictator, the verb would be 'was'.

[JohnLocke]

34. Here's my List

1) Nixon
2) Bush II
3) Reagan