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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 11:52 AM
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Coincidence: 911 happened two weeks before the media election recount
It's just a coincidence that 911 happened two weeks before the Wall Street Journal, the New York Times, the LA Times, and the Miami Post-Herald were going to release their full hand recount of the ballots in Florida's 2000 election. According to the recounts, Gore received around 500 more votes than Bush. If a full hand recount was done, according to existing standards, as ordered by the Florida state Supreme Court, Gore would now be our president.

After 911, the media decided to not release the report, saying that it was unimportant now, and we must rally behind the president.

This is strictly a fortunate coincidence for Bush, and I don't want anyone to think I believe otherwise.

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TNOE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 12:00 PM
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1. Just Another Coincidence: Condelizza Warns Willie Brown Not to Fly
We should inindate the media, our representatives, the White House, etc. and demand that Bush* not use 9/11 until he has given his blessing on a full and complete investigation - otherwise he should not be allowed to invoke it AT ALL.


http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=1000
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 12:00 PM
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2. The report was issued after a lot of pressure BUT
the first release was in USA Today with a headline that said Bush would have won anyway.

Only by reading the entire article could you learn that bush would have won in only one of the 5 (?) possible ways to do it.

So actually Gore did win.

But people remember only the headline and think aWol won no matter what.

Now there's stuff in Bev's book about FL that shows the whole fiasco was much more managed than most of us could imagine in our worst nightmares.
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 12:17 PM
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3. even the Wall Street Journal admitted it
After going through a slew of different, hypothetical scenarios, even the pro-Republican Wall Street Journal admitted that if a full recount was done, according to the existing standards, Gore would have won. Just like you said, they made their headlines as misleading as possible.

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foreigncorrespondent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 06:57 AM
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30. Where can we get Bev's book?
N/T
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DUreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 12:22 PM
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4. I thought it was due to be released on 9-11?
No?
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 12:48 PM
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11. was it?
I should have said that two weeks after 911, they announced they would not release the report. I was waiting for the report, and remember the spin when they finally released a summary (I don't think the actual entire report has even been released.)

Have the ballots from Flordia been destroyed yet, or are they being preserved?
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DUreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 01:51 PM
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13. I'm not sure any more
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YNGW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 12:22 PM
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5. comment
What a "coincidence". Can't be trusted at all.

:tinfoilhat:

dai

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Nashyra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 12:34 PM
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7. I suggest not only a media blitz but
a blitz to any and all representatives you can get your habds on. I will be sending this request to the elective representatives in Nevada you can find the e-mails for your particular state through google. For the good of the country the the fact that "Al Gore" had really won Florida which was to be released on 9-11 was witheld from the American People so that we could rally behind Mr.Bush. He promised that he would not use 9-11 politically, he has broken that promise and you should declare it a disgrace until he has agreed to a FULL and LEGITIMATE investigation into the most horrible tragedy since Pearl Harbor. Pull the RNC add, it's a disgrace.

Sincerly,

That is my answer to this bs and I hope there are others that will do the same. There are quite a few DUer's
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Ernesto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 12:32 PM
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6. Down the memory hole goes another fact
I remember waiting on the edge of my seat for that report to be published. But then came 9-11 and Chimp won the "trifecta". Nobody wanted to be bothered with the minor FACT that GORE had won and that the BEAST is a pretender. This has really been a long shity 3 years.
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 01:07 PM
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12. I was waiting too
When I read that they were not going to release the report, I couldn't believe it - it just seemed so *obvious*.
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TNOE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 12:35 PM
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8. And More Coincidences.....
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Festivito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 03:29 PM
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18. They could have picked the timing by raiding the Iraq ISP.
Edited on Mon Nov-24-03 03:31 PM by Festivito
The WEEK prior to 9/11 the Texas office of ISP (Infocom?). The raid shut down the computers to copy the data, RATHER than copy the data while online.

This act could have stopped communications from the 9/11 organizers that would have initiated their failsafe plans to go ahead on 9/11. George took a month long vacation just prior. The bulk of the attackers entered the US in July and August. Why did they wait two or three months.

I'd suspect that the .iq websites were open to chats by anyone. It would have been perfect for the attackers.

NOTE to myself: at the hospital
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 03:55 PM
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19. yep, I remember that
I really need to get the newspapers the week before 911 and refresh my memories - I remember there were a whole lot of things going on just prior that seemed disconnected, but now probably make more sense.
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ArkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 12:39 PM
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9. 9 + 11 = 20
coincidence?
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 07:10 PM
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24. no, that's a definition
sorry, try again.
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TNOE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 12:39 PM
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10. And More Coincidences
An awful lot of coincidences for that day.... and no investigation.....


http://www.philly.com/mld/dailynews/6742902.htm
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MsUnderstood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 03:06 PM
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17. The Red Pill
Take the blue pill and you believe terrorists masterminded a plan to hijack 4 plans and fly them into American landmarks. . .or take the red pill http://feralnews.com/issues/911/dewdney/ghost_riders_1-4_1.html
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ozone_man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 07:31 PM
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25. I took the red pill.
And I'm glad I did. I read "Gost Riders" awhile ago, and it was pretty good conspiracy reading.

I'm convinced of LIHOP or MIHOP, though not based on any one theory, but more of a general feeling about the Bush administration and BFEE, PNAC, etc.
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DUreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 02:15 PM
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14. one more
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ElementaryPenguin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 02:42 PM
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15. Also could their be a BETTER/CATCHIER date for danger/catasrophe than 911?
The association with danger-emergency is obviously built in. Coincidentally, the airlines chosen also have appropriate names -
On 911 America(n)is United! Or - 911 Unites America.

Coincidence? If BFEE had its choice of dates - and airlines - how could they do better?
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 02:48 PM
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16. EVERYTHING IS A COINCIDENCE.
Especially since Jan, 1 2001.

Move along, nothing to see here.
:nuke:
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warren pease Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 03:59 PM
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20. It was released on 11/11/01...
conveniently enough, that was the day that the American Airlines plane crashed in Queens, thereby guaranteeing that the recount story would sift slowly toward the bottom of the day’s news menu, read only by members of the Gore Won choir and reduced to near-universal irrelevance by the emergency du jour.


wp
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 05:15 PM
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23. was the full report released to the public?
I know there were "summaries" reported in the WSJ and NYT, but I didn't know the full report was actually released - any ideas where to get a copy?
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robsul82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 04:01 PM
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21. Can't believe anyone forgot about this...
On 9/11, I even said to a friend (I was a senior in high school at the time) "There goes the damn media recount." He said back, "I'd bet your life on it, sure." Anyone remember the whispers about the media recount before 9/11? An inside source was quoted as saying, "If this ever gets out, Bush is absolutely sunk." 9/11 happens, poof! And yeah, then a couple months later, headlines - BUSH STILL WINS, page A-16 "Well, hee hee, funny thing - if the FSSC-ordered recount had happened, Gore would've won. Hee hee! But hey, if you toss out every fifth vote and every vote made by someone with a last name beginning with S-Z...BUSH WINS! WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!"

Later.

RJS
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 04:34 PM
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22. same here
I was waiting for the story to come out, and paid attention to the rumors surrounding it. On 911, I was obviously distracted by other events, but when they announced they would bury the report, my first thoughts were ... "what a coincidence!".

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CaptainMidnight Donating Member (611 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 07:47 PM
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26. GETTING WARMER!
Keep going.

One of the GREAT UNEXAMINED STORIES surrounding all of this is the eventual postponed date of the "release" of the consortium results.

THE VERY DAY the media released the results? Ultimately, the Bush Cabal had their asses covered when nearly every media outlet "buried the lead," when they trumpeted the headlines BUSH WOULDA WON ANYWAY, but if you read the actual article, and usually the latter part, continued on like, page D25 or something, the conclusions reached showed that AL GORE WON.

THAT VERY MORNING, Flight #587 went down over Long Island. 260 Dead. Nice and bright and early that day, like before 9am, thusly shoving any RECOUNT REPORTS right off the headlines. It was PLANE CRASH, PLANE CRASH, PLANE CRASH, ALL DAY!

http://www.uwire.com/content/topnews111301002.html

Now, remember the excuse? Firstly, within two hours they were CERTAIN IT'S NOT TERRORISM! But the fucking tail "fell off" due to "turbulence." Never mind the fact that over 100 witnesses, who were ignored by the FBI, said they heard an explosion, saw a flame, etc.

Again, why couldn't this have been at least a "normal" accident. The TAIL FELL OFF? An accident? Sure, like Flight 800's center fuel tank "sparking up" and "exploding," like on Novermber 22, bullets zig-zagging back and forth all over Dealy Plaza, like two Democratic Candidates planes falling out of the sky two weeks before two national elections.

Sorry, gang. Talk to any pilot you know. Tails have NEVER "fallen off" planes due to "turbulence." For the FIRST TIME IN HISTORY it did so on the VERY DAY Bush could have had his Presidency seriously de-legitimized in the eyes of the American people.

Once you sanction, plan, or at least allow for, the murder of 3000 Americans to advance your imperialistic goals and profit motives, what's one plane full of a coupla hundred Americans? Peanuts!

Nothing to see here folks, MOVE ON!

IT'S JUST ANOTHER COINCIDENCE!

Captain Mike
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 08:57 PM
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27. Good post Captn' n/t
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CaptainMidnight Donating Member (611 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 06:29 AM
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28. thanx
lets give dis da boot!

CM
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 06:54 AM
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29. What is the danger of having a dem candidate bring this up.....?
Besides having their life at risk...I can't imagine anybody who voted for Gore .... vote for shrub this time...even with his terra parade.

A candidate willing to become articulate in the series of "coincidences" ...a candidate who can't win but in essence can help his/her party win by sharing a the "facts"...both now and in the election campaign.
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