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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 04:57 PM
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Poll question: Are You "Over-It" Yet?
So I'm arguing (bickering) with my Republican brother (yet again) and he utters that maddening and dismissive phrase that we've heard so often... 'get-over-it'. Suggesting, of course, that I'm still angry about Florida and that I still consider Dubya to be a fraud... but that I should just accept reality and quit being so petty.

ARGH!

So... I wonder... how many dems are actually "over-it".

-- Allen

P.S. Does it still make you angry when Repukes are so dismissive? (Which they do on purpose because they have NO defense or excuse... so they resort to inflammatory rhetoric.)
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 05:00 PM
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1. Not only NO, but FUCK NO!!
Theft of democracy and fascist manipulation aren't things I "get over". There will be an NHL franchise in Hell before I "get over it".
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hippiegranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 05:00 PM
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2. the day i "get over it"
is the day justice is restored, and even then, i will never forget how those ass clowns subverted our democracy.
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 05:02 PM
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3. Throw it back in his face, Alan
"You're asshole is the 1st UNELECTED President, and you're gonna keep on hearing that! Get over it!!"

"40% of all Americans thinks Bush* was not legitimately elected. Get over that!"

Then read him thes two quotes:

"The most important thing is for us to find Osama Bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him"--Bush* 9/13/2001

"I don't know where he is and I really don't care" Bush* 3/13/2003

www.pbs.org/weta/washingtonweek/voices/200304/0428span.html
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theivoryqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 05:06 PM
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11. I like to remind them
that the mayor of London recently stated: "Bush is the single biggest threat facing the world..." and I wholeheartedly agree.
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 05:20 PM
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16. And "Bush lied, people died"
and "Bush* is afraid to go to the funerals, but he has time to go to fundraisers"

They do it to piss you off (an angry person is a stupid person) so stay calm, and piss THEM off.
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Kanary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 05:51 PM
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28. Here's another comeback for ya
"When are *YOU* gonna get over blaming Clinton for everything?"
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 05:02 PM
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4. I'm not over it
and never will be "over it." Look at what that asshole has done to our country. We should all be mad as hell and should NEVER get over it because if we do, they will just do it again and again and again. :mad:
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 05:02 PM
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5. I will never be over it even if I live to be 1,000 years old!
Not over it. Not now. Not EVER!!!
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theivoryqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 05:04 PM
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6. I will NEVER get over it
and in fact I am declining invitations to Thanksgiving meals or get togethers that include ANY republican. I am "over them". I cannot stand a single republican at this point. The smarmy smugness combined with knee-jerk greedy fuck-the-world mentality is too much for me to stomach on a holiday dedicated to sharing thanks.
Not with those fucks.
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Kanary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 05:04 PM
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7. Nope, not over that
and won't get over the passage of the Medicare bill, either.

Not to mention, I don't want anyone here using that phrase with me, either.... I Don't Take Well To Being Dismissed.

Kanary
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Cat Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 05:04 PM
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8. Only a fascist would be able to "get over" a stolen election.
Tell him to burn his flag, because he doesn't deserve to own it.

Hyperbole, sure. But hyperbole plays big in some crowds.
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 05:05 PM
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9. Can't "get over it"
because I love this country and I love Democracy and it makes me angry to se it co-opted by a gang of thieves and bums who don't represent anywhere near the majority of the people of this land. So no, no a thousand times no, I won't get over it until a man or woman is legally elected by a majority of the voters.
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GOPBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 05:06 PM
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10. Ummm, hmmm, let me think about.....
NO!!!!!!!!!!!
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Kamika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 05:07 PM
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12. I'm gonna play the devils advocate here
But Bush won fair and square.. we don't have a democracy like European countries.. we have an electoral "selection" of our president and by that Bush did win.

We have nothing to "get over" really
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 05:11 PM
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14. Last time I looked
the Supreme Court, not the electoral college, had the final say over the outcome.
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ramblin_dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 05:19 PM
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15. Bush got Florida's electoral votes due to fraud
The voter rolls were purged fraudulently and the vote count was incomplete when the Supreme Court intervened. It was a coup. You don't get over that.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 05:49 PM
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24. Well that certainly says a lot about your thinking on this issue...
...unless you're trying to be funny in some obscure way.

I guess you've forgotten the failure to count all of the votes in Florida. I would guess that you've also forgotten that several other states had voting difficulties to include polls shutting down early, polling places closed on the day of the election, police blocking roads to certain polls, and fliers circulated in some black neighborhoods reminding them to vote...on the wrong day.

I guess you've forgotten about the actions of Katherine Harris to illegally strip the vote from tens of thousands of Floridians by having them listed as convicted felons even though they had never been convicted of a crime. Did you know that most of those folks are still on that list?

I would guess that you've also forgotten the GOP staffers that were paid to shut down the recount in a certain Florida county. They were no better than Nazi thugs "campaigning' for Hitler in the early 1930s.

And how is it that the Supreme Court ended up selecting the next president in 2000? Where is that process described in the U.S. Constitution?

In most other countries that all adds up to being a coup. But not here...we've been indoctrinated not to believe in conspiracies.
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 05:08 PM
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13. "You don't steal an election to do good"
I don't remember who said that here, but it still rings true. How can we get *over it* when we are having to deal with the consequences?
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 05:22 PM
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17. Not over it.
But I'll begin to have "closure" after the felonious five SCOTUS justices are impeached, removed from the bench for participating in a coup, and sent off to jail for life.

:-)
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LeahMira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 05:22 PM
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18. Over it? Well...
That might be a tad easier if he weren't giving out slaps in the face to the American people on a daily basis. The man acts as if he had a mandate while the fact is that he needed the Supreme Court to step in and declare him the winner.
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 05:30 PM
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19. Nope...never will get over it EVER..don't think we'll ever recover....
...from what's being done by these mofo's either....so I WILL NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER GET OVER IT!!!!!!:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 05:42 PM
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20. "Getting Over It" Is NOT THE SAME As Accepting Reality....
... I'm sick and tired of the "get-over-it" crowd trying to imply and suggest that we aren't accepting the reality of the situation.

WHAT NONSENSE! I realize EXACTLY what the REALITY of the situation is. The election was stolen. Bush is the "president" (for lack of a better term).

The "get-over-it" crowd appears to be using their admonition as a way to legitimize the fact that Bush is in office only because of purged voter records and a Supreme Court intervention.

If indeed Bush had won LEGITIMATELY... and we Dems were still angry about the fact that we lost, then yes... the Repukes WOULD certainly be justified in suggesting that we 'get-over-it'.

But that's NOT the case, is it?

-- Allen

P.S. My dad and brother make me so angry sometimes that I wish I could disown them.
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 05:46 PM
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21. "Don't Blame Me" Copycats
I live in a VERY Repukian neighborhood, and after the 1992 election that Clinton won, one out of two cars had a "Don't Blame Me--I Voted for Bush" bumpersticker.

I had the best time watching their regressive faces when they read my "Bush Lost--Get Over It" bumpersticker. Sometimes I would blow them a kiss.

However, the situation with Shrub is very different. The 1992 Repukes were mere whiners about losing an election. We have much more at stake now than the sore losers of 1992 could have imagined.

Bush was not elected.
Bush has overseen efforts to curtail liberties long enjoyed by Americans.
Bush has gone against our very Constitution in the preemptive aggression against Iraq.
Bush has ignored hard-won international treaties and alliances and put EVERY American at undue risk.
Bush has his corrupt corporate friends in place taking our tax dollars right and left, misusing the money, and no one, NO ONE is putting a stop to it.

Get over it? I think not.

"Mad Kings and mad bulls will not be held by treaties and packthread." B. Franklin, Printer

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rock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 05:47 PM
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22. I have been wronged
and the ones that did it laugh at me. How do you get over that? They think it's funny that their chimp is president.
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argyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 05:47 PM
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23. I'm over it.Love having this pathetic POS representing the country I love.
So what if he's taking us back into the 19th Century instead of ahead into the 21st as far as social progress is concerned,that our men and women are dying for the purpose of bankrupting social programs while enriching his plutocrat friends,destroying Iraq for their oil and making the US the most feared nation on the globe.
And it only took him three years.
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progressiverealist Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 05:49 PM
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25. put me down for F%&k no also
The way this unelected fraud got to his position only adds to the insult and aggrivation that has been the Boosh pResidency.
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SeattleRob Donating Member (893 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 05:50 PM
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26. funny they are still not over Clinton's Penis...
as usual the have selective amnesia. Why is it we have to get over the election theft, and they still aren't over the Clintons?
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Punkingal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 05:51 PM
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27. Never.....
never, never. It isn't possible to get over it.
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phillybri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 05:52 PM
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29. I'm over it....you know why???
BECAUSE IT'S NOT 2000!!!!!

If we waste time bitching about 2000, 2004 will see the end of our party...

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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 05:57 PM
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30. I ain't ever gonna be over it.
I'm really sorry that you have a Republican brother. I do, too, and it ain't easy. At least you are on marginal speaking terms with him.

My brother went so far as to tell me that I should F myself if I don't get over it. The conflict has caused an irreparable divide in my family.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 06:10 PM
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31. as long as I have a pulse
I will not be "over it."

these vermin have no love for America, our constitution or our fundamental principles.

No patriot coul dbe "over it."
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DemExpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 06:12 PM
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32. Not quite.......
:nuke: :nuke:

DemEx
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 06:18 PM
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33. I'll get over it when Republicans get over Clinton.
In other words, Hell will freeze over first.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 06:33 PM
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34. We get AT LEAST eleven years of anger MORE after they get over Clinton!

When they stop bitching about Clinton, we start keeping track of how many years we still have to be angry at Bush*. Of course, I don't expect the GOP and their minions to stop bitching about Clinton in my lifetime.
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 06:44 PM
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35. I'll get over it when
they shut the f*ck up about Clinton and since I don't ever expect that to happen, I guess I will NEVER get over it. :mad: :grr: :grr: :nuke:
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elcondor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 06:52 PM
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36. I will never be "over it"
As long as I have air in my lungs, I'll continue to inform people of the travesty of Florida and the illigitimacy of Bush's* presidency! Over it? Heck no!! :grr:
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 06:52 PM
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37. I'm over it, personally, but not as an American
I'm the forgiving sort, but there's forgiveness, and there's allowing someone to commit an attrocious crime that will directly and negatively impact my children's lives for decades to come. They stole the democracy. The Supreme Court ruled that even though votes were left uncounted, they wouldn't allow them to be counted.

I forgive Mark David Chapman, but I wouldn't let him out, give him a gun, and tell him where Bob Dylan lives.

By the way, are we over 9-11 yet? Because Bush sure is.
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chopper Donating Member (345 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 07:03 PM
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38. yeah, right...
might as well tell Hamlet to 'get over' his uncle Claudius killing his father and hooking up with his mom, cause that's what the BFEE did to American Democracy.
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 07:07 PM
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39. no
I will get over it the day he leaves office, which I am hoping will be 1/20/05. Unlike the Republicans who continue to obsess over Clinton, I will actually free myself of the loathing of Bush once he is gone. I can then consign him his asterisk for all time when looking back on the presidencies of my lifetime. May history judge him harshly.
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Fescue4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 07:09 PM
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40. Hardly
It pisses me off when I start thinking about!
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