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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 06:14 PM
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A Post-Debate Truce
For those I have rubbed the wrong way as of late, I am formally apologizing for my occasionally brash and (here's a word I have always liked) ornery behavior as of late. I am guilty of being a passionate political junkie, and being firm with my convictions. A lifelong contrarian, I have a knee-jerk tendency to dissent against the prevailing ways of looking at issues and solutions. But through all of that, I am a progressive and pacifist who is basically on the same side as the rest of you, most of the time. I would much rather be in this fight against the Bush regime with you, instead of being just a jester in the balcony. I'd much prefer saving my best zings for the chimpanzee slinging his mess all over our Oval Office.

Still, a debate is not just what many of us watched or discussed today, a debate is the very essence of democracy and the very values we wish to recapture in American life. The very values that are anathema to the occupants of the White House. I will still disagree and dissent, but on a level more commiserate with these high ideals, rather than the easy path of cheap shots and off-the-cuff missives. As always, I will be fair and give credit where it is due.

After watching the debate, I can't say I have changed my views on the candidates very much, although I will say ALL of them said something resonant and valid here and there, and none will receive my scorn as a result. Something can, and should, be said about all of them that was commendable.

Take or leave it, but this is my olive branch. I value peace above all, from globally to right down to this forum, person to person.

Peace, and a Democratic Party victory in 2004!

ZW

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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 06:16 PM
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1. Truce...
:kick: :pals: :kick:

OK now let's go and KICK CHIMPY'S ASS! :nuke:
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 06:20 PM
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5. Clark did what I wanted him to do today
He got fired up as all hell on the Iraq mess! If he keeps that up, he will get more momentum I think. Let's hope middle America was listening.
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Nashyra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 06:16 PM
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2. Thank You
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 06:21 PM
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6. you're welcome
:hi:
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 06:18 PM
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3. amen
Here's to truce :toast: and peace
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 06:21 PM
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7. and love!
:hi:
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 06:18 PM
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4. Well said
:toast:

peace
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 06:28 PM
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11. peace above all
:toast:
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 06:25 PM
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8. Nice ZW
:yourock:
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 06:26 PM
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9. Very nice
Very timely and very nice. Thanks for putting it out there.
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 06:28 PM
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13. thanks Luna!
I love the Zevon quote - I am a major major fan! :toast:
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 06:27 PM
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10. May I Sign On Too?
I've been posting less and listening more lately....

There are alot of very intelligent, caring people posting here... I'm grateful for the chance to participate... and ZOMBYCOFFEE!
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 06:29 PM
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14. ZOMBYCOFFEE for all!
Or whatever is their beverage of choice! :D
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CWebster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 06:28 PM
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12. Sounds good to me....but
Kerry is still an old windbag.

Heh-Heh, just kidding (not really), but exceptionally well-expressed, ZombyWoof. :-)
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 06:37 PM
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17. well, I am officially uncommitted
So if that was directed at me, I am afraid it pooted on ya! hehehe :D

Thanks for the kind words otherwise! :toast:
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 06:33 PM
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15. Peace!
:hippie: :yourock:
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 06:37 PM
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18. thanks!
:toast:
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 06:34 PM
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16. horny behavior??? you, Laurin????
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 06:47 PM
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20. that's in the LOUNGE!
Here in GD, I am ornery! :bounce: :hi:
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oxymoron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 06:45 PM
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19. Hear, hear!
Well said Zomby.
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 06:47 PM
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21. Hey oxy!
:toast:
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 07:05 PM
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22. Good advise
I share your attitude.
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 07:12 PM
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23. hey Rowdy!
I like your Will Rogers quote. My late grandfather was 10 years old when he met Rogers, back in 1925. Rogers was making an appearance in Wyoming, where my grandfather lived, and when he got off the plane, he shook the hands of my grandfather and his best friend. He said "Hello, boys!", and then he was off to do whatever it was he came for. I like knowing I am only 2 degrees from Will Rogers, my second favorite Okie after Woody Guthrie. :-)
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 08:13 PM
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26. Very cool story...
On a similar note, my mom, bro-in-law and 7 year old nephew were in New Orleans airport when bro saw Willie Nelson. He pointed him out to my mom and nephew as "a great man", Willie noticed, came over, and introduced himself. They talked for 20 minutes and mom said he was the nicest man she ever met (and she could smell bullshit at 50 paces).
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 08:16 PM
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27. I LOVE Willie!
That's a great story! Willie has always struck me as the real deal, just through his music. :-)
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Astarho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 07:30 PM
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24. Wow. Did being sick
take that much of an edge off of you?
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 07:59 PM
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25. HAHAHA!!!
Be nice! I have a special DVD treat for you this Thursday... think "Muddy Waters", "Paul Butterfield", and others... :P
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 01:23 AM
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28. kick for the all-nighters
:kick:
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drfemoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 01:39 AM
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29. Thank you for your gesture
What your post makes me think of is that we really don't like seeing our guys beat up on each other.
We should all be on the same team.

So, if we don't like them bashing each other, it would reason that we don't like seeing DUers doing it to ourselves either.

I've done a little stomping and threatening myself, although I can see something worthwhile in every candidate.
And I still have my favorite. We just have to get through this and stick together or we all lose big time.
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 01:46 AM
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31. the one thing we're all guilty of
Is giving a damn. There's some long months ahead of us. What are we going to make of it?
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 01:45 AM
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30. If I read one more sweet conciliatory post from you
I am going to :puke:

I dunno...I just like bastard Zomby better for some reason.

(on a side note...great post! )
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 01:47 AM
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32. lol!
Hey! My parents are married! I thought I was Asshole Zomby. ;-)

Well, I am trying to strike a balance - how can I be both high-minded and barbed-tongued? You're a role model for that, ya know. :evilgrin:
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 02:13 AM
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33. Yeah right
I oughtta get a medal.
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 02:18 AM
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34. here's one with nekkid people!
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