Olbermann: Pentagon denies soldiers in Mosul bashed with concrete

[karlschneider]

just coming on.

"Iraqi witnesses say it did happen." Who is telling the truth here?

I know who I believe. :grr:

[Jacobin]

1. They are desperate to avoid comparisons with Somalia

Absolutely desperate.

Lying? Every fucking day at least once.

[CatWoman]

2. Saw that, Karl

I'm speechless here.

Just WHO do we believe?

[louis-t]

5. I hate to be a stickler, but...

I think it's 'WHOM do we believe'. Sounds funny doesn't it? Either way, I would not trust the Pentagon to tell the truth. They can't stand the thought of any war becoming unpopular.

[CatWoman]

7. Objective case

I believe you're correct :D

[karlschneider]

9. No offense taken. But "whom" has essentially been relegated to archaic

English. Evolution works on languages just as it does on other living organisms. ;-)

[HFishbine]

12. This sounds like

one of those notions English departments put forth to try to make their field seem as dynamic as the sciences.

I didn't get the official memo that "whom" had become archiac, and until I do, I'll consdier it a sign of an educated mind when people use it properly.

[girl gone mad]

15. Except..

They still teach it in school and test for proper usage of it on the ACT exams.

Easy rule, the him or he rule:

"Who should we trust?"

if you can answer the question "We should trust him", use whom.
On the other hand, if the answer "we should trust he" had made more sense, you would use who.

[louis-t]

3. Don't believe the Pentagon!

These are the people who made statements like "we now are in control of Mosul" and minutes later an embedded reporter was shown live in a tank taking heavy fire OUTSIDE of Mosul.

[Sagan]

4. good luck pushing that story

They have freakin' pictures. Or did the Iraqis drag those soldiers out of their vehicle after shooting them so that they could throw flowers at them, maybe?

[louis-t]

6. I hate to be gruesome..

but if there are photos(undoctored ones), we need (sigh) to see them before they get 'confiscated'.

[CatWoman]

8. I think someone posted a thread last night

from CBC(?) that had pics.

Can't remember.............

[karlschneider]

11. Well, I saw those pictures and didn't see any concrete blocks!

</freep mode>
:eyes:

[Cocoa]

10. and Jessica Lynch was raped

even though she doesn't remember it.

[CatWoman]

13. and GW Bush

has restored honor and dignity to the White House :silly:

[MasonJar]

14. The pics were gruesome and

the soldier's throat had definitely been sliced. Whom is correct; whom is still expected for the objective in formal written language. In spoken language such errors are to be expected; we cannot always know where our thoughts are going.

[girl gone mad]

16. I had a feeling this was coming.

I was watching CNN this morning and when they reported this story, they really went out of their way to avoid mentioning the beaten with blocks part. I think the anchor almost mentioned that part of the report, but caught herself. It really made me think they were being told by someone not to go forward with that information.