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tinanator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 10:35 AM
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wesley clark ?
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 10:39 AM
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1. Wow! Will Dean propose closing the School of the Americas?
Sounds to me like Clark is a high ranking member of the American Empire. I kind of like the idea of getting it out in the open - can Dean do that? Will Clark do that?

I bet Kucinich has something to say about SoA.
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 10:45 AM
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2. By the way- Remember how you asked me what I would do if
Remember how you asked me what I would do if the race came down to D or C and I told you I would slit my wrists first and then vote for X? Well, I have switched my position. I will slit my wrists first and then vote for Y.

Either that or go 3rd party.
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Ficus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 10:48 AM
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3. School of the Americas?
AGAIN CONGRATULATIONS AND THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US AT THE SCHOOL OF THE AMERICAS. - Wes Clark

wow. this really bumps my opinion of Clark down.

:dem: :dem:
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RichM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 11:04 AM
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5. Clark - a kinder, gentler imperialist. Look at this debate quote
from last night:

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CLARK: ...What's going on in Iraq is a struggle by the Iraqi people to maintain control of their own country.

We need to change a little bit what we're doing in the military over there. We need to have lots of people in our armed forces studying Arabic. We need to put people who can speak Arabic in there and communicate with the Iraqi people. We are not doing that.
And when we stand up those police stations and we leave them alone and they're attacked, we need people there who can call in the kind of U.S. support that's necessary to beat down this insurgency.


We can have a successful policy, but only if the Iraqis are in charge of their own country, and only if we have the right military plans to succeed.

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So Clark wants to be able to "call in US support TO BEAT DOWN THIS INSURGENCY." Just what you'd expect from a US general -- a few pretty words about letting the Iraqis have their own country, then POW! Down comes the iron fist. He is not really talking about giving the Iraqis their country back. He is talking about making sure the US military operation "succeeds." This implies STAYING in Iraq and "winning" and maintaining control.

If the Iraqis are really "in charge of their own country," why should the US military be the real force behind the scenes? Why should they be there at all? Clark seems to be on both sides of this issue at the same time. On the one hand, he's "giving them back their own country;" on the other hand, the US Army is still there, with the "right military plans to succeed," & ready to be called in to crush "insurgencies." This is not much different than Bush's plan. It's Bush's plan with some lipstick on it.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A10799-2003Nov24_4.html
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