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jeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 12:01 PM
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Bush's numbers hit lowest level - Ipsos-Public Affairs/Cook Report
Ipsos-Public Affairs/ Cook Political Report

(this poll has traditionally been very good for Bush):

Approval: 50%
Disapproval: 47%

Direction of the Country:

Right Direction: 38%
Wrong Direction: 56%

Approval over Iraq:

Approve 50%
Disapprove 44%

Has Iraq been successful?

Successful: 25%
Unsuccessful: 20%
In between: 53%

Was Iraq War worth it?

Worth it 44%
Not worth it 50%

Who will you vote for in 2004:

Definitely Bush 37%
Consider someone else 24%
Definitely someone else 37%

Match ups:

George W. Bush 50%
Howard Dean 36%
Someone else 9%
Not sure 4%

Dean has gained by 4% in this poll. Also, you may see that Dean is "behind" by 14% but this is misleading. Note the poll above, where 37% say they will definitely vote against Bush and 24% say they will consider someone else. So that 9% who say they will support someone else is almost certainly an anti-Bush number. Which means that if Dean were the nominee that number would go to him (it is now going to someone else running against Dean).

Therefore, that number is more accurately reflected this way:

George W. Bush 50%
Howard Dean 45%
Not sure 4%

George W. Bush 52%
Richard Gepthardt 32%
Someone else 10%
Not sure 3%

Same thing as above:

George W. Bush 52%
Richard Gepthardt 42%
Not sure 3%.

All in all, this poll looks very good for us. Dean is really starting to pick up support and he does better than most other candidates. And Kerry and Clark if they do better do only marginally (within 1 or 2%). So our top tier candidates are doing well:

Kerry, Dean, and Clark. The others seem not to do as well with a 10% difference or more.

www.pollingreport.com
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CMT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 12:09 PM
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1. good news
that our candidates are doing this well a year before an election when Bush is so much better known than they are is telling.

Yes, Dean is improving his standing. In the previous poll he was 18-points down, now he has closed it to 14-points. Gep, however, is falling further behind going from 15-points down to 18-points. But still respectable for this stage of the game.
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jeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 12:30 PM
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5. But he isn't 14 points down
If you add the 9% for someone else he is only down by 5%. That 9% is definitely an anti-Bush number. Just prefer someone other than Dean. Perhaps Kerry or Clark. I wish they included numbers of the other candidates as well.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 12:22 PM
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2. Those are great numbers for us.
Yet the new fad around here seems to be defeatism.

What the hell is so wrong with DUers that they have to be so damned pessimistic? How could this chimp POSSIBLY win a second term with those numbers? 56& of people think we're going in the wrong direction, for Christ's sake!
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rock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 12:28 PM
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4. It's not his winning that we're worried about
Edited on Tue Nov-25-03 12:29 PM by rock
It's his re-installment as president.
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sexybomber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 12:32 PM
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7. Exactly.
Even though the Democratic candidate is going to win, I can't see how the BFEE will step down. They'll do anything to stay in power.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 12:55 PM
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11. Well, we'll have to deal with that bridge
if and when we come to it.
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 12:28 PM
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3. but... but... but... the Dems are weak and spineless and we're gonna lose
So say some, not I. I've been looking at this polling for a while. And we're doing VERY well in our important swing areas.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 12:30 PM
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6. I saw this earlier.
:D
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MoonAndSun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 12:32 PM
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8. IMHO, it seems that no matter how hard the media pundits try and prop
bush* up, the people are slowly getting it about this fraud.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 12:41 PM
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9. Kerry and Clark do the best, as usual.
A shame that so many work against the two strongest candidates.

No matter what either of their flaws are in campaigning against other Democrats, their strengths are in confronting BushInc. straight up. Who handles the up close scrutiny in a GENERAL election and who has the drop on Bush on National Security?

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Norbert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 12:54 PM
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10. It still amazes me
that 56% think the country is going in the wrong direction but Boy George still gets a 50% approval rating.

Am I missing something?:shrug:
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 01:26 PM
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12. Not missing anything..
we already saw what they can do with those voting machines..they're going to keep on doing until something is done by the PEOPLE..
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