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pdx_prog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 12:35 PM
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The Kennedy Myth........comments?
This guy is a real moron. His latest sampling of his idiot brain proves it. This radio station in Memphis continually runs his columns on their web site. Of course, they are a Clear Channel station. I love their music and used to listen to them all of the time. You can give comments in their guestbook....they banned me, and erased all of my messages to them....lol. Not self righteous enough for them I suppose...lol. Interesting insight into the southern mentalities.

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Hanther is the Memphis-area author of Tandra, "The World's Greatest Picture Book" (www.tantra.com) and highly opinionated middle-aged white guy.

The Kennedy Myth

Julius Caesar was not universally loved and respected when he was alive. There were many of his countrymen who considered him a power grabbing opportunistic political hack. His dalliance with the spectacular Queen Cleopatra of Egypt, a country most Romans considered decadent and immoral, did nothing to enhance his already soiled reputation. Sympathy ran high for his long suffering wife. Such was the general dissatisfaction with Julius Caesar that the senators who hatched the plot to murder him had justifiable reason to hope they would be hailed as heroes.
It did not work out that way, of course. Once Caesar lay dead in a pool of his own blood, the Roman Empire became beneficiary of yet another civil war with the forces of Octavian winning out in the end and Julius Caesar elevated to the status of a god. All subsequent rulers of the Roman Empire, including first his nephew Octavian who came to be called Augustus, took the name of Caesar for their own and Julius came to be immortalized as a man of unsurpassed greatness.

This week past, and November 22 in specific, was remembered as the 40th anniversary of the assassination of President John F. Kennedy in Dallas, Texas. As has become the custom in this country, there were numerous celebrations to mark the occasion. Numerous speeches were given reminding us of the unparalleled legacy of JFK and of the agony we still feel in our collective memory over his spectacular death. One has the impression that hardly a day passes that is not marked by the remembrance of some event in our recent past. There are ceremonies to mark the death of Martin Luther King, Jr., ceremonies to mark the anniversary of the Oklahoma City bombing, ceremonies to mark the anniversary of the Columbine shootings, ceremonies to mark the anniversary of the Watergate break in, ceremonies to mark the day Lyndon B. Johnson taught his dogs to potty. There is hardly an event of historical significance that cannot find someone with the interest to turn it into an annual event complete with endless hype and interminable speeches given by obscure dignitaries.

At this date, some 40 years after the event, something like half of the population are too young to have any memory of the Kennedy Presidency. That is in no way surprising as 40 years is almost two generations. The Kennedy Assassination is rapidly receding into ancient history. Even so, a large number of Americans, according to a recent poll, consider John Kennedy one of our great presidents, right up there with Franklin Roosevelt and Abraham Lincoln. Interestingly enough, John Kennedy has risen in approval ratings in recent years. Such enthusiastic approval is taken by his fans to be vindication of his administration and enthusiasm for his political agenda.

However, there is some reason to question those who insist public approval is, in fact, a consequence of his ideology. A significant number of those questioned had no clue as to the political party in which he claimed allegiance, though there are only two practical options, could not specify one of his political initiatives and were at a loss to name one of his accomplishments. The distinguishing character of his term in office appears that he was relatively young, had an entertaining television presence, and had an attractive and fashionable wife. Also, in more recent years, most people are aware of his rumored sexual escapades. Thus it would appear the favorable approval ratings President Kennedy enjoys are rooted in his relative youth at the time he was in office, his television personality, and his attractive First Lady. As JFK moves farther into history, fewer people remember the specifics of his administration.

I remember the Kennedy Administration.

In the event the reader expects me to, at this point, begin to trash JFK, expectations will not be met. The inarguable facts remain the Kennedy Administration was pretty much run of the mill as administrations go. The Viet Nam catastrophe did not begin on his watch, though it certainly accelerated. In Viet Nam, Kennedy simply continued and expanded the policies of the Eisenhower Administration before him. His much bally hooed Bay Of Pigs fiasco was no more disastrous than betrayals by other administrations at other times under similar circumstances. His civil rights record is, again, no great departure from the direction set forth by the previous administration and his adherence to principle is about as remarkable as the average Washington bureaucrat or politician. His most famous admonition, the one about asking what one can do for the country is nothing more than demanding that citizens abandon their own best interest to serve government hacks and Washington bureaucrats, the standard wish dream dear to the heart of every politician from Hammurapi of Sumeria forward.

Under this rather dismal set of observations, one is left to wonder how it comes about that JFK has attained such universal adulation today, particularly from Americans who mostly have no clue what he was about. It is indeed true Kennedy and his First Lady were more physically attractive than Eisenhower who had been in his physical prime as Allied Commander in World War II. The Kennedys were sexy while the Eisenhowers resembled your grandparents. Also, JFK never aged. He was murdered and thus is frozen perpetually young, a political James Dean. Jackie immediately faded from public view and married someone even richer than the Kennedy family. But I think, more to the point, Kennedy has had 40 years of pretty much undiluted favorable public relations hype. Even the sexual escapades rumors have not hurt as they inspire more male admiration than disapproval. The essential bottom line appears that the public fascination with the Kennedy Myth is in direct consequence of a carefully orchestrated public relations campaign. A testament to the power of advertising.

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theivoryqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 12:36 PM
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1. suckage
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 12:39 PM
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2. I actually largely agree with this.
I mean he doesn't trash Kennedy; he doesn't bring up the numerous canards that Kenendy Haters use. But the truth is that Kennedy is most important as a symbol; as a president he wasn't all that liberal and not all that great. Johnson was, in some respects, a better example of a liberal president who actually got things done.

Bryant
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pdx_prog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 12:47 PM
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4. I think his
analogy of the Bay of Pigs is way off base. I agree with the persona of the Kennedy admin. I think Kennedy gave this country hope, and brought people together like no one else did.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 12:41 PM
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3. JFK didn't begin to champion civil rights
until well into his presidency, however, the Civil Rights Act that LBJ got passed was actually JFK's.

But people who really care love Bobby, anyway, not John.
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MattPinNC Donating Member (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 01:01 PM
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5. From 'Myth' to perpetual Aura
of Camelot. And it will continue so as long as there is a willing accomplices (media) being fed by a powerful family (Kennedys).

Yes, he was a splendid orator, and from what I've heard, wrote most (if not all) of his speeches.

He was in the right place at the right time when television could exploit his charisma and good looks over Nixon.

From the limited time in office, he was average. A blunder (Bay of Pigs), a challenge delivered (Space Program) and a stand-off with Kruschev (Cuba). A Joke of a husband, and average father at best.

His high ratings as President are purely hype over reality.

I agree with your Ceasar comparison. And Johnson was his Bruttas.

vvv
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 01:02 PM
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6. Kennedy was just beginning to realize his potential when he died
in my opinion:
1/ Kennedy began the civil rights initiative that was completed by Johnson, after his death.
2/ Kennedy, unlike the present occupant of the White House took responsibility for his fiasco (the Bay of Pigs)...Bush dodges responsibility for everything that happens under his watch.
3/ Kennedy avoided a war in his showdown with Kruschev over the missiles in Cuba....Bush worked to have a war with Iraq...and succeeded.
4/ Kennedy did not live long enough to fullfill his dreams for America or America's dreams for him.
5/ JFK was born into wealth and power, but in his political life was on the side of the underprivileged and powerless, as have been the other members of the Kennedy family...Bush was born into wealth and power, but in his political life....well, need I go on?
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BigBigBigBear Donating Member (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 01:12 PM
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7. I like this
quote:
"..public fascination with the Kennedy Myth is in direct consequence of a carefully orchestrated public relations campaign. A testament to the power of advertising."

Replace Kennedy with Reagan, and I'm there.

Kennedy started the Peace Corps, invigorated NASA, went out on a limb (eventually) for civil rights and believed in the vigorous application of liberal values, in both strength and compassion. In calling for people to do for their country, he was answered with literacy, voter registration and poverty/social work activists.

And had GWB and Rummy been in office in Oct 1962, the planet would still be smoldering.

The Republicans can't stand it that their leaders are incompetant phonies. It's called jealousy.


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pdx_prog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 02:26 PM
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8. here here
good analogy
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