Rank the candidates

[Walt Starr]

It's been a while since I saw one of these threads, so I thought I'd see where things stack up for most people. Things have changed quite a bit in the landscape since I last did one. I know my views keep changing and in a few days this list could be totally obsolete.

Right now, I'd take any one of them over Bush. Here's my ranking of the candidates:

1) Dean
1) Braun
1) Sharpton

Yep, three way tie in my mind right now

4) Kucinich
5) Kerry
6) Edwards
7) Gephardt
8) Lieberman
9) Clark

How do they stack up with you?

[Emboldened Chimp]

1. My Rankings, by manco

1. Dean
2. Clark
3. Kerry
4. Edwards
5. Sharpton
6. Gephardt
7. Mosley-Braun
8. Kucinich
9. Lieberman

[Jester_11218]

2. Secret Societies

Only one of these gus is not associated with any secret societies...
Kucinich

They scare me. NWO, Freemasons, Illuminatti, Skull & Bones, Tri-Lateral Commission. If you are not a member you do not become President. Period.

That aside, I think a Dean/Clark ticket is the ticket.

[meegbear]

3. Mine ....

1. Clark
2. Kerry
3. Edwards
4. Kucinich
5. Gephardt
6. Mosley-Braun
7. Sharpton
8. Lieberman
9. Dean

[Guaranteed]

13. Dean's worse than Lieberman?

LOL okay

[economic justice]

26. Lieberman is the ELECTED Vice President!

He has a record as a solid Democrat on many issues. His not being a cultural leftist is obviously what's important about being a Democrat these days to so many at DU. It should never be forgotten that Senator Lieberman SHOULD BE our Vice President today had it not been for the SCOTUS decision. He's not my top choice, but ranking him at the bottom of the pack is the same as saying the party of JFK is "bad" as they shared many of the same views culturally. Of course, I am sure many here would say that Herbert Marcuse would have influenced JFK as well. :eyes:

[Sean Reynolds]

45. Difference between JFK and Lieberman.....

One was in the 60s, another in the 21 Century. TIMES change, political ideology change. Kennedy was liberal in his time, today he'd be a moderate to right of center Democrat. Today, Lieberman is a right of center Democrat, THAT will not win an election. You've got to offer up differences between Bush and the Dem candidate, Lieberman is the ONLY candidate that does not.

[economic justice]

59. That's just so wrong

Kennedy was a liberal in his time? Only the far right thought Kennedy was a liberal. Hubert Humphrey sure didn't think so. The DUers of the fifties and early sixties were sure not in Kennedy's corner. By the way, I'm not surprised at your response. Your avatar? Kennedy hated all Karl Marx stood for. Marxism has never worked ANYWHERE it's been tried. Oh...but REAL marxism has never been tried....right? The Marxists on this board prove it would be all the same: totalitarian thought policing and centralized power to do the work of "the people" (the people that agree with the Marxists!)......

[Jester_11218]

4. BTW - Lieberman

Shouldn't Lieberman be a Republican? How does he have the nerve to run as a Dem?

[Walt Starr]

5. Lieberman has my vote should he be nominated

He participated in the filibuster yesterday. That's worht a lot in my eyes.

[Jester_11218]

11. That's another story

I would vote for Charles Manson over Bush, but that aside...Lieberman is a DINO. Democrat in Name Only!

[Kathleen04]

15. Did Lieberman..

change his mind on the Medicare issue? It seems as though last week on Inside Politics he was talking to Judy Woodruff and supporting it, saying that seniors have been waiting for drug benefits for 10 years and that we had to deliver. Then yesterday, he said he opposed the bill. Did I miss something?

[demigoddess]

19. i saw on cspan

that he did not even vote. what weasly way to go BTW Kerry did not vote either

[mndemocrat_29]

6. My rankings

1. Clark
2. Kerry
3. Moseley Braun
4. Edwards
5. Gephardt
6. Sharpton
7. Dean
8. Kucinich
9. Lieberman

[quispquake]

7. Mine keep changing...

...but here's today's:

1) Kucinich
2) Dean
3) Clark
4) Kerry
5) Sharpton
6) Gephardt
7) Braun
8) Edwards
9) Lieberman

[DemExpat]

8. Clark, Edwards, Kerry, Kucinich

then the others...

:kick:

DemEx

[rucky]

9. Three-way tie for first:

Dean, Clark, Kucinich - the order changes daily.

Second tier is 4) Kerry, 5) Edwards & 6) Braun

The rest of 'em are about the same - even Lieberman.

ABB

[dpbrown]

10. 1. Kucinich, 2. Kerry, 3. Clark, 4. Edwards, 5. Dean,

...followed by:

6. Braun
7. Gephardt
8. Sharpton
9. Lieberman

[Kathleen04]

12. Mine..

Favorites:
1) Clark
2) Dean
3) Edwards

Tier 2:
4) Gephardt
5) Kerry

Tier 3:
6) Braun
7) Kucinich
8) Lieberman
9) Sharpton

[Rooktoven]

14. Edwards...

then
Dean
Kerry
Clark
Braun
Gephardt
Kucinich
Lieberman
Sharpton

[Guaranteed]

16. Alright....1) Dean

2)Clark

These positions could change at any time, then change back. I've been with Dean for awhile now, though.

Then:

3)Kerry
4)Braun
5)Sharpton
6)Kucinich
7)Gephardt
8)Edwards
9)Lieberman (never even think about the guy)

[Renew Deal]

17. 1. Clark

1. Clark
2. Kucinich
3. Dean
4. Kerry
5. Gep
6. Edwards
7. CMB
8. Sharpton
9. Joe somebody

On Edit: It's amazing how much DK has grown with me. He really is a good guy. He isn't a filthy slimeball like a couple people ranked below him.

[poskonig]

18. Dean, Clark, Kerry

Dean
Clark
Kerry

Kucinich
Braun
Edwards

Gephardt
Lieberman
Sharpton

[Frederic Bastiat]

20. Clark> Kerry> Edwards> Gephardt> Sharpton> Kucinich> Braun...

Dean and Lieberman.

;-)

[a_random_joel]

21. Here's Mine...

1. Dean
2. Clark
3. Kerry
4. Gephardt
5. Sharpton
6. Edwards
7. Braun
8. Lieberman
9. Kucinich

[LittleDannySlowhorse]

22. Mine...

1) Dean
2) Clark
3) Kucinich
4) Edwards
5) Sharpton
6) Gephardt
7) Kerry
8) Braun
9) Lieberman

Not much change from last week, except that Kucinich & Edwards have flipped, as have Gephardt & Kerry.

Kerry and Braun both occupy the lower tiers of my ranking pretty much because I feel like they haven't done a good job of defining themselves. Granted, in a nine-way race it's very difficult to get your message out, but I had always been under the impression that Kerry was going to be a force of nature on the campaign trail. Hopefully his recent staff shake-ups will help, but quite frankly I think he may be running out of time. The primaries are still 2 months off, and that's enough to time to start turning things around, but he needs to start doing that NOW.

[GabysPoppy]

23. Mine

Group A (The Pragmatic me)

1) ABB
2) ABB
3) ABB

Group B (The Most likely)

1) Dean/Clark
2) Clark/Dean

Group C) (The Also-rans)

1) Kerry
2) Edwards
3) Gephardt
4) Braun

Group D) (The Nevermind)

1) Lieberman
2) Kucinich
3) Sharpton

[Renew Deal]

25. The first person that see's it correctly

:toast:

[economic justice]

24. rankings

1) Clark
2) Edwards
3) Gephardt
4) Dean
5) Kerry
6) Lieberman
7) Kucinich
8) Braun
9) Sharpton

[beyurslf]

28. Here's mine

1. Dean
2. Edwards
3. Moseley Braun
4. Clark
5. Gephardt
6. Kerry
7. Sharpton
8. Kucinich
9. If I have to-- Lieberman

[MercutioATC]

27. Dean, Edwards, Clark, Braun, Gephardt, Kerry, Kucinich, Sharpton...

...oh, and Lieberman.

[last_texas_dem]

29. At the moment

Edwards and Kucinich are my two favorites. Then Kerry, Clark, Gephardt, Sharpton, Moseley-Braun, Dean, Lieberman. If there is any pattern to the order I rank the candidates I'm not sure of it; just a combination of several different factors.

[Barbara917]

61. There is another....

Texas Democrat. Me. Living in Tom DeLay's district. :cry: Which means I don't have a Representative in the House of Reps.

On a serious note. I have met a few other Texas liberal Democrats online. I often think the three of us should get together for :grouphug: therapy. ;) I am happy to know there is a fourth.

[Donna Zen]

30. At this time:

1) Clark

2) Edwards

3) Kerry

4) Kucinich

5) Gephardt

6) Dean

7) CMB

8) Sharpton

9) Lieberman

[JaneQPublic]

31. Dean, Clark, Braun, Kucinich, Edwards,Gephardt, Sharpton, Kerry, and

Lieberman

[Think Globally]

32. My picks

1) Kucinich
2) Braun
3) Sharpton

Questionable:
4) Dean
5) Kerry
6) Gephardt

Vote Green instead:
7) Lieberman
8) Clark
9) Edwards

[Lady President]

33. Mine

Here's my list...

Tier 1: For this group I will do everything I can to get a win. Every second of free time will be spent volunteering.
1. Kerry
2. Edwards
3. Gephardt
4. Clark

Tier 2: For this group I will participate in activities, but won't spend as much time as an organizer.
5. Kucinich
6. Moseley-Braun
7. Sharpton

Tier 3: I'll certainly vote for this group, but I'll volunteer for local candidates instead of being a part of these campaigns.
8. Dean
9. Lieberman

[bobthedrummer]

34. OK.

1. Kucinich
2. Dean
3. Kerry
4. Edwards
5. Mosley Braun
6. Gephardt
7. Sharpton
8. Lieberman
9. Clark

[wyldwolf]

35. ...

1. Clark
2. Kerry
3. Edwards
4. Gephardt
5. Dean
6. Kucinich
7. Braun
8. Sharpton
9. Lieberman

[GreenArrow]

36. two rankings:

By likability/agreement with platform:

1) Kucinich
2) Sharpton
3) Mosley Braun

The rest I view with varying degrees of distaste.

By "Electability" (largely media driven/money oriented/superficial crap like looks):

1) Clark
2) Kerry
3) Edwards
4) Gephardt
5) Dean
6) The rest

[lastliberalintexas]

37. Dean

Then ABB.

I really can't rank the others right now. Kerry was my second choice for the longest time, but within the past couple of weeks he has lost that spot. Since then, I haven't really thought about how I would rank them. :shrug:

Having said that, there are things which I like about ALL of our candidates, and I think we have a wonderful field from which to choose.

[jmaier]

38. It's definitely Clark

I'm only ranking semi-viable candidates:

1) Clark
2) Gephardt
3) Dean

*** GAP ***

4) Kerry
5) Edwards

[_NorCal_D_]

39. Mine:

ABB! :bounce:
Clark B-)
Kucinich
Edwards
Kerry
Sharpton
Gephardt
Lieberman
CMB
Larouche
Dean

[KoKo]

40. Dean/Moseley-Braun/ Kucinich (wishlist, but not reality....)

Moseley-Braun did herself proud in Yesterday's debate. She's untested but the more I see her the more I like her. I know.....there's NO WAY she could do it. But I always like "underdogs" who have something important to say.

[Jonte_1979]

41. Mine

1. Dean
2. Clark
3. Kerry
4. Edwards
5. Gephardt
6. Kucinich
7. Braun
8. Lieberman
9. Sharpton

[Jonte_1979]

42. I pretty much like all of them btw

Even Lieberman.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

43. there are only 5 worth theirsalt weight

1 Kucinich
2 Sharpton
3 Braun
4 Clark
5 Dean
there are no others...because they all vote for IWR

[AP]

49. I'd rather have someone who voted for IWR than someone who doesn't think

you should be able to sue your HMO.

I'm really mad about this. I just read this 15 minutes ago, and I'm really angry. I'll get over it soon, but I'm going to stew for a little while.

Healthplan: Do you think consumers should be able to sue their HMO?

Dean: No, I don't think that is helpful. I think lawsuits in general aren't helpful. I favor arbitration.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

51. AP...whoah...maybe i need to rethink dean's salt weight..thanks.....

do you have a link?

[AP]

54. sandnsea discusses this here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=775104#775444

You need a password to get to the article, which is here:
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/405541


IM sandnsea if you want more details.

[spindoctor]

44. Kucinich, Sharpton, Gephardt, Dean, Braun, Kerry, Clark, Edwards

For me the big divide runs between Dean and Braun.

[Fleshdancer]

46. #1: Dean

2 - Clark
3 - Braun
4 - Kucinich
5 - Sharpton
6 - Kerry
7 - Edwards
8 - Gephardt
9 - Lieberman

[AP]

47. Ed-----Ku--Ke/Cl-----Sh--CMB----Gep----Li---------------------De

Dean falls way back, after reading this today:

Healthplan: Do you think consumers should be able to sue their HMO?

Dean: No, I don't think that is helpful. I think lawsuits in general aren't helpful. I favor arbitration. But we do need external review. In Vermont, we have a panel that works with the state government where someone who feels they are not getting proper care from their HMO can appeal. Ultimately, an ombudsman is called in and (where appropriate) the banking and insurance commissioner enforces the HMO to grant the care. I think that is fine. I think that is good. I think that system is much better than lawsuits. The reason is that system takes care of a problem before it gets out of hand. In order to file a lawsuit you have to show damages. Well what's the point of waiting until the patient is damaged so that you can file a lawsuit? I prefer arbitration up front before damage is caused, rather than lawsuits afterward. It certainly has been used in our state and it seems to be used successfully.

[Sean Reynolds]

48. My list (like any of you care)

;-)

Dean
Kucinich
Braun
Clark

HUGE GAP

Edwards
Sharpton

HUGE GAP

Kerry, Gephardt, Lieberman ALL tied for the last spot.

[Astarho]

50. Mine

1. Kucinich
2. Sharpton
3. CMB
4. Edwards
4. Kerry
6. Gephardt
7. Clark
8. Dean
9. Lieberman

[quinnox]

52. I'm only gonna list the candidates I think have a chance of

winning.

1. Kerry - rumors of his campaign's death have been greatly exaggerated.

2. Gephardt - May well be the last man standing, surprisingly.

3. Edwards - May yet have a decisive impact, potentially explosive.

4. Clark - Impressing more lately, one to watch closely.

5. Lieberman - running on inertia only.

6. Dean - The phoniest of the bunch, a fraud that had good timing.

[Bombtrack]

53. Edwards,Clark,Kerry,Lieberman,Sharpton,Gephardt,Kucinich,Braun,Dean

.

[morgan2]

55. rankings

Top Tier
1) Kucinich
2) Sharpton

People I may settle for
3) CMB

People who I would consider not even voting for
4) Kerry
5) Gephardt
6) Clark

Peoplw who I wouldn't vote for
7) Edwards
8) Dean
9) Lieberman

[vdeputy]

56. Clark

Kerry
Dean
Gephart
Edward

Braun
Kucinich
Lieberman
Sharpton

[Zynx]

57. Dean

1. Dean
2. Clark
3. Edwards
4. Gephardt
5. Kerry
6. CMB
7. Kucinich
8. Sharpton
9. Lieberman

[Leftist78]

58. for now

Edwards
Clark
Kucinich
Dean
Gephardt
Kerry
Sharpton
Braun
Lieberman

It changes a lot though

[Barbara917]

60. Clark, Clark, and Clark

1) Clark
2) Kerry
3) Gephardt
4) Edwards
5) Kucinich
6) Braun
7) Sharpton
8) Dean
9) Lieberman