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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 02:43 PM
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Brokaw declares peace with N. Korea futile
Kucinich brings us back to reality by explaining the basics of peace talks.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A10799-2003Nov24?language=printer

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BROKAW: I think that it's fair to say, historically, Congressman Kucinich, the chances of having a successful negotiation with Kim Jong Il are remote or slim at best.

If he continues to develop his nuclear capability and develop weapons as well, will the time come and what is that threshold when the United States may be forced to do what Congressman Gephardt said the Clinton administration was prepared to do: make a unilateral strike against North Korea?

KUCINICH: Well, let's take this in context, Tom. The context now is that President Bush launched an attack on Iraq which did not attack the United States. He mentioned Iraq, Iran and North Korea in the same breath as an axis of evil.

KUCINICH: If you're sitting there in North Korea, and you see one of those countries checked off, you think you're going to be next.

So what I believe, as president, what I will do is I will go and meet with Kim. I will set forth a whole new doctrine for this United States, taking us away from unilateralism and preemption and toward cooperation.

Tom, we've lost our credibility.

BROKAW: Non-aggression?

KUCINICH: I'm saying that we must believe that peace is inevitable. When you work from a premise that war is inevitable, it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 02:46 PM
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1. If brokaw wants to GIVE opinions rather than elicit opinions, he should...
...file to run for president, stand on the other side of the stage, and let someone who wants to ask questions have his job.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 02:48 PM
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4. opinions that happen to support Bush policy
and he states them as fact. Liberal media my ass.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 02:49 PM
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6. Yes, he should register to run in the REPUBLICAN primary.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 02:49 PM
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5. Factor in what Moon is promoting in S. Korea and the writing's on the wall
We'll likely be involved in Korea somehow, Bush will get Dean as his opponent, and NO WAY will the public trust Dean when we're in a major conflict.

Bush wins all around.
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stopthegop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 02:47 PM
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2. saying peace is inevitable
sorta flys in the face of...oh..I don't know...human history maybe?
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 02:51 PM
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7. you think Kucinich doesn't know this?
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 02:52 PM
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9. I doubt that
Edited on Tue Nov-25-03 02:55 PM by Bandit
I'm sure that during our past there were long long periods of peace. No matter how much you wish it to be, war does not have to happen. That it has happened so often does not mean change can not occur. You could also say that it is inevitable that people will own slaves. Or that women will be subservient to men. Things change and it all depends on how you approach things. Also tell me how many wars Switzerland has been in lately.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 02:58 PM
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10. the hard core cold warrriors
saw a nuclear showdown w/ USSR as invevitable.

Also the neocons are constantly telling us that there's no hope in the Middle East, and undermined Clinton at every turn.
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Silverhair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 03:16 PM
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12. Switzerland has a strong military, per capita, and excellent
defensive terrain, and is too tiny to be worth the effort of conquest.
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mmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 02:47 PM
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3. Kucinich is the best thing since sliced bread!
Kucinich could save this country.
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el_gato Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 02:52 PM
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8. brokaw is a sack of shit
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economic justice Donating Member (776 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 03:18 PM
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13. I love the civility here. So grown up! <eom>
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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 03:04 PM
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11. Cocoa! Where is your mouse?!
Whatever are you doing posting to a web site, my sweet little pocket kitten? Get your furry little behind out of the office!



;-)

PS Brokaw, I don't care if you have an opinion. Moderating a debate IMO isn't the place for you to air it.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 03:23 PM
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14. you know I hate that picture!
why couldn't you have posted that action shot of me getting that bird. :-)
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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 09:49 AM
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15. What, and encourage your uncles to escape?
You know they'll be dying to outdo you... and I'll never get Toby back in the house at all!

;-) Glad you enjoyed the photo, Cocoa.
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