Blacklisting Democrat legislators who sold us

[pippin]

down river. I am sick and tired of the legislators who have played footsie with the repugs on everything from the war to the medicare bill.

Daschle is on the top of my list along with every democrat who has pretended to be for the people, but voted along with the repugs today for the medicare bill. For heaven's sake when are we going to take back the party? Let's keep tabs of these republican lap dogs--give us all their names and voting records--we should let them know we're not voting ever again for them!!

[Scott Lee]

1. Great idea. This is why the Establishment has to go

They benefit themselves first.

They play CYA (cover your ass) in Congress before they would stand on principle.

Their priority is staying in office.

They collaborate with, and succumb to, the GOP when it appears to benefit their tenure.

They are sick with Insider's Disease. Insider's Disease has no known cure, and can only be treated by removal from office.

[Goldust]

2. Didn't Daschle vote no?

n/t

[salin]

3. Local paper had him leading the fight

I thought I had read that he wouldn't lead the fillibuster, but the way the newswire story read this morning - was that he had led the fight. Not sure how it played out. Would love a report by one who watched the procedings.

[joeybee12]

4. Daschle ONLY voted no--if he had been a leader, twisted a few arms

etc.--the f**king bill would have died.

I think he wanted the bill to pass--he can campaign against it better.

[sangh0]

9. Some people are just confused

Today, on DU, I learned

a) Daschle voted for the Medicare bill
b) The Energy bill passed with Dem help
c) Media consolidation regs passed with Dem help

AFAIK, these are all incorrect.

[salin]

15. okay a nonsequitor question...

AFAIK means ? (net anacronym unknown to this DUer).

Have to admit I heard of Daschle 'acquiesence' on medicare here - but read otherwise in the paper.

I have followed the energy bill closely - and Daschle caved on that - but he did not FIGHT against the fillibuster (more like he stood aside and let it happen) - and folks - winning that battle - given the WH investment in it was a BIG win!!!!!!!!!

(But two things before we concede victory... assertions on the newswires that some aspects of it may be inserted into the omnibus spending/budget bill... AND the assertion that it will be reintroduced in January. The latter suggests a different strategy than the former (changing the conference bill - to get some parts into the spending bill would change the level of support/resistance in the house and the senate - there are so many give aways and really ugly points (that many, even repubs, resist) that if they push it specific parts through the spending bill, the balance of very tentative support might be lost for the overall bill. Bush needs this bill - it is part of what helps him raise so much damn money. A complete loss - again - on this provision - will hurt him long term. Why? Because many of his policy positions hurt businesses as well as the rest of us. IF they no longer believe that they can get capital (socialized through the government in direct giveaways) at a level that counters how much they are hurt by the policies... they become less committed (and less likely to only give money to the republicans.)

On the third point - that is silly. Ground has been gained fighting the FTC rules - by good dem organizing that has successfully leveraged some edgy repubs on the issue.

[LSparkle]

5. Will never vote again for DiFi

if she's even eligible for re-election. Ptooey!

[CaptainClark23]

6. Two Words

Patriot Act.


All of 'em sold us out. Betrayed a sacred trust by negligence either willful or incidental.

What's worth keeping?

The Constitution of the United States of America.

Ditch the rest.

[xray s]

7. Suggestion

Start by beating Republicans and electing Democrats and gaining control of the House and Senate.

Then you can eat our own if you are still hungry.

[demsRus]

8. I'm not blacklisting ANYONE, especially any Democrat

If I had a Democratic representative, and I don't, he/she would probably have voted for the legislation. MOST of the democrats in my district would insist on it. I can't speak for any of the rest other than to say that I understand they had their reasoning and that they are responsible to their own constituencies. For me or anyone else outside of those constituencies to advocate blacklisting is just plain arrogant.

[AP]

11. You don't have to send them money. But definitely don't blacklist any Dem.

I'm with you.

Work to get a more liberal person elected, but don't do that by tearing down what you got.

Logic 101.

[Sean Reynolds]

10. Matheson (UT), top DINO, sold us out in the 2002 election.....

When he WALKED HAND IN HAND with Bush in a campaign ad! It was DISGUSTING. Most Utahns couldn't tell if Matheson was running as a Democrat, or Republican. Now that the Utah (REPUBLICAN) Legislator gerrymandered his district to include most of rural (REPUBLICAN) Utah, he'll even have to run FURTHER right of center to win.

[rucky]

12. Hey! I have a great idea!

Let's focus on beating Bush!

[pippin]

13. and how the hell is THAT supposed to happen?

You're NEVER going to beat him while there are democrats WE elect who pander to the republican agenda.

Face it guys, these democrats like Di Fi, Daschle et al DON'T represent our interests. They've commited a serious breach of trust--our trust-- they promise to represent our views but end up serving no one's interests but their own. Sorry to sound so angry, but I think ordinary people like most of us have to get this into our heads that Bush and Co, are going to remain in power unless we do our own house cleaning. This is not the time to "play nice" and go on supporting people who simply SAY they are Democrats.

If we are too *ing lazy about looking at the records of our representatives and calling them on their actions, then I think we get what we deserve--the ruination of this republic, the end of medicare, social security and everything we democrats believe and care about.

Sorry about the rant.

[Jacobin]

14. I'm more pissed at the IWR Dems,

I see Kerry didn't show up to vote against the Medicare bill.