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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 05:12 PM
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Today's CNN Poll
Today's question is: Do you credit the Bush administration for the recent economic surge?

So far folks have shown good sense in saying no. But with a few visits from here maybe the message will get through a little bit better and the chimp can quit taking credit where it is certainly not due.

www.cnn.com

Thom

God Bless Robert Byrd
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Brucey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 05:15 PM
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1. voted no, 56%
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wysimdnwyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 05:15 PM
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2. DU this poll!!!
Don't let it get freeped!
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 05:26 PM
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3. Well >100,000 have voted so far
I don't think FR or DU are going to move it much
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 08:27 PM
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20. The people are speaking!
I bet the sheer numbers of freepers has gone down 50% this last year! Heck many a former freeper is probably 'DUing' that poll :D
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Virgil Donating Member (410 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 05:28 PM
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4. Yes and no
When you spend a half a trillion more than you take in, you woule expect that spending to create some jobs. It is not the tax cuts that did it. Like Krugman said, the government could have just hired people with the money they gave to the rich. Yesterday Sprint said they would lay off 2000 people and a few days ago Verizon said 21,000 jobs would be cut.

The economy cannot recover if manufacturing jobs decline. It is that simple. The only place to get a decent job with benefits is the government and pretty soon the taxpayers will not be able to support that end of the middle class. Tax and spend is easy to dislike, but borrow and spend like crazy is all about ruination and sucking blood while the tenacles are all in place.

Let's see how many freeze to death this winter and then let them speak of a wonderful recovery. Besides that the average American worker works 360 hours more than his European counterpart. You would think things would be booming with people working themselves to death.
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ChangeMan Donating Member (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 05:33 PM
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5. What Surge?
Layoffs are still taking place.

Jobs are still being shipped out of the country.

Auto sales are still down.

I.T. jobs are still depressed.

Manufacturing jobs are still depressed.

Unemployment figures are still high.

Any spike in 'the economy' between Thanks & Xmas is just that a spike and shouldn't be considered a unit of measure.

Next thing we know the Chimp will take credit for Xmas!

What Surge?

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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 05:44 PM
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8. Sprint just announced layoff
over a thousand jobs will be lost. so far the jobs they keep describing are "Temp" Service jobs. Business is not ready to invest in fulltimers who require healthcare and benefits.
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Norbert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 07:35 PM
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13. Remember 75% thought Saddam masterminded 9/11
last spring. People are too lazy to think and this is what Bushco is counting on. I heard the jobs outlook for 2004 is not particularly rosey by any stretch.

I hope Americans wake up and see this recovery for what it really is but I'm not counting on it.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 05:34 PM
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6. voted
Do you credit the Bush administration for the recent economic surge?

Yes 44% 48295 votes

No 56% 62528 votes
Total: 110823 votes

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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 05:36 PM
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7. more comment here
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 05:58 PM
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9. Done. Wooo-Hooo 57NO-43 n/t
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Cloud Donating Member (380 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 06:01 PM
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10. Voted
It is now 57% NO.

Woohoo!
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 06:55 PM
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11. Kick
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imax2268 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 06:57 PM
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12. Voted NO...
smirk isn't that smart...!

:kick:
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Turkw Donating Member (521 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 07:39 PM
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14. Untill the machine hits the SPIN cycle
We all know the process, the right will spin and repeat the lie often enough and people will start to believe. Fight back now, write the pundants and call them on lies, misquotes, and lazy reporting. Thank them and reward them when they break away from the "party line." Yes they do that sometimes.
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jenk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 07:40 PM
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15. DONE
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 07:54 PM
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16. Exact Link please?
I don't see it readily on cnn.com - does anyone have an exact link?
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imax2268 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 07:57 PM
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17. Go to CNN
and it should be near the bottom of the page...on the right hand side
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stewert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 08:16 PM
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18. Remember This.........

The Bush economic team said the economy would create 228,000 jobs a month, even
without the Bush tax cuts. In october the economy created 126,000 jobs, that's about
half what his own team predicted we would get without his tax cuts.

In february the Bush economic team predicted 306,000 new jobs per month by mid-2003
if the Bush tax cuts were passed.

The economy has to create 150,000 new jobs every month just to break even with the
population growth. If it only created 126,000 jobs in october it fell 24,000 short of breaking
even. And it fell 180,000 jobs short of their own predictions for october.

If they predicted 306,000 jobs a month with the tax cuts, 228,000 jobs without the tax cuts,
and they got 126,000 jobs in october, what is Bush taking credit for ?

And yet the corporate whore media does not even bring up their predictions, or ask someone
in the Bush administration where the jobs are.

I will not give Bush credit for anything until the economy is creating at least 300,000 jobs a
month, and the 3 million people who lost their jobs find work.

And what kind of jobs are they economy creating, I heard 40% of the new jobs are loy paying
service sector jobs like dishwasher, burger flipper etc. They mention job creation, but they
never say what kind of new jobs they are creating. A nation of burger flippers making $5 an hour
will not get this economy in a recovery.





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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 08:21 PM
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19. 58% No! Go and vote now!
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