Prediction: DU Will Eat Its Own (Nomatter Who is the Nominee)

[matcom]

i am CONVINCED that nomatter WHO the nominee is:

LIEBERMAN supporters will NEVER support Kerry
KERRY supporters will NEVER support DEAN
DEAN supporters will NEVER support KUCINICH
KUCINICH supporters will NEVER support BRAUN
BRAUN supporters will NEVER support GEPHARDT
GEPHARD supporters will NEVER support CLARK
CLARK supporters will NEVER support SHARPTON
SHARPTON supporters will NEVER support EDWARDS
EDWARDS supporters will NEVER support WHOEVERILEFTOUT (i am sure there is someone)

*btw, these are in NO particular order or preference*

sorry. just don't see the 'hardliners' gettin' "in line" with WHOMEVER is the nominee.

and. that. is. sad. (with Lieberman being the possible exception (IMHO))

[Occulus]

1. I'm behind the nominee

and I remain undecided even on who I'm leaning toward.

My decision isn't made until I punch out that chad. Period.

[soleft]

2. There are Lieberman supporters????

Yikes!

[ClintonTyree]

29. The Sykes family..............

of Hampton Beach, New Hampshire I believe have come out in support of Lieberman.

[Some Moran]

32. Isn't that interesting...

I know a girl by that name, and she's not that bright...lol

[John_Shadows_1]

46. Are they related to Bill Sykes ...

... from "Oliver"?

[quinnox]

3. The most polarizing is Dean

Lieberman really has no chance, otherwise he would be the most polarizing.

The most uniting candidates appear to be Clark, and Edwards.

[Khephra]

19. I'd say it's Lieberman and Kerry that are the most polarizing

Clark and Dean constantly are at the top of DU polls for favorite choice. Edwards isn't even coming in a close third.

And the good thing is that Clark and Dean are trying to stay away from being critical of each other. The two most represented candidates on DU are both Clark and Dean. If Clarkies and Deanies can learn to live with one another then we're in for a real contest against Bush/Cheney.

[Scott Lee]

42. What can I tell you. Change is hard.

[MaineDem]

4. I think you're wrong

There will be a vocal few who will pack up their games and go home if their candidate doesn't win the nomination. I believe the need for a Democrat to win the White House will be the prevailing feeling and all factions will unite behind the nominee. I know I will.

[AWD]

5. I see it too, Matcom....

Sad to say, but I see it in a big way.

Personally, I will support whoever is the nominee...but the hatred being flung around on this board is just not going to heal in time. Too many people already proclaiming they'll return to say "I told you so", and not enough people saying "my candidate made a mistake when they did (blank)".

[Droopy]

6. I don't think so

It looks bad now and I think it may take a little while after the nomination, but eventually I think that we'll all come together here. There may be some people going third party and a few may not vote at all, but I believe we'll pull together for the most part.

[MUAD_DIB]

7. No way. I am not into cannibalism.

Anyway politicians are too stringy.

I may criticize now and then, but that is Democracy.

I'll be voting for a Democrat in Novmber '04.

[maddezmom]

8. 100% with the nominee

will do whatever I can to get the pretender out of the WH.

[WilliamPitt]

9. Most will line up, a vocal few will not, and the blood will flow

[AP]

10. That's why we have moderators. If people try to sabotage the nominee, they

will get tombstoned.

I'm sure there will be Republican intriguers too, and they'll get tombstoned too.

[rucky]

11. DU Poll after DU Poll after DU Poll sez ABB

It'll be a different place here by the Spring. I guar-on-tee it!

Of course we'll have more third-party protest threads, but what's new about that?

[kixot]

12. Go blow it out your animated ass.

We're untited in wanting to boot Bush. To hell with any other differences.

[eissa]

13. And you will NEVER

be mistaken for an optimist. Chill!! It's primary season; eating your own is the only item on the menu. I just addressed this on another thread. I honestly believe that 99% of us (democrats, I mean) subscribe to the ABB school of thought. Even if our candidate doesn't get the nomination, and even if we have to hold our nose to vote for the democratic candidate, vote for the democratic candidate we all will. This election is THAT important; no self-respecting democrat will sit idly by and watch * steal another election. I swear I'd vote for Lieberman if I had to just to get shrub out!

[Khephra]

14. Ask Skinner about the "post primary" DU rules

DU won't tear itself apart. There will be a lot of bans, but many of us who will be in the ABB squad will still be here.

[ulysses]

15. we'll definitely see some tests of the ABB thing.

[JanMichael]

16. A few will continue to attack the eventual nominee.

Most, including myself, will likely get behind that persn 100%.

Those that don't I'll likey put on IGNORE (Which will be the first time because I've never felt the need to ignore anyone previously.).

This election is too important to fudge up ourselves.

[PaDUer]

27. Just watch so the R's don't

MIHOP "attack" at the convention...I do NOT trust them!!

[hatrack]

17. The Democratic Party can nominate an Arts-and-Crafts coffee table

They can nominate a pile of old shoes.

They can nominate a lime-green Chevy Vega.

They can nominate a rusty stop sign with bullet holes in it.

They can nominate a friendly, frisky Rottweiler-mix puppy named Max who likes to chew rawhide bones and woof at squirrels.

They can nominate a shrink-wrapped box of surgical gloves.

They can nominate a Popeyes three-piece wing dinner (with slaw on the side and a large drink - only $3.49!).

They can nominate a copy of the 1973 Encyclopedia Americana, for all I care.

They can even nominate Joe Lieberman.

Whatever happens, I'll be voting for him/her/it/them.

[The Magistrate]

45. Hear, Hear, Sir!

And thank you for the laugh....

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"

[0007]

53. There went coffee on the keyboard again, goddamn you hatrack...

but it was worth it to hear ya this morning. BTW I have a spare keyborard.

[Mattforclark]

18. ABB

110%

[_NorCal_D_]

33. Yes

B-)

[KG]

20. heck, i'm on the edge of my seat!

can't wait to find out which defender of the status quo the dems cough up!

[Bucky]

21. Nothing wrong, destructive, or permanent about a vigorous argument

The original poster's full of bald-rd-sh ('scuse the french). We argue now, we bitch, kvetch, and duke it up for now. Democrats always do this. So do Republicans. If Greens ever get a contested nomination, they'll do it too.

It's called democracy and it gets messy when there's millions of us and we all care about getting it right. I've seen nothing that will preclude keep any candidate from supporting the winner. What's the worse that's been said? Sharpton implied Lieberman's a closet Republican. I've got $100 bucks against anyone who thinks Joe L. will do anything but enthusiastically campaign for whoever beats him for the nomination.

Or what about when Gephardt said Dean stood beside Newt Gingrich? I may not like Newt, but that hardly constitutes a devastating insult that would drive a real Democrat like Dean from the Party. Come next November, we'll all be united (95-98% of us anyway) behind our nominee.

[matcom]

22. "bald-rd-sh"

heh.

thanks for the endorsement. what have YOU done to fight the Fascists?

:eyes:

BTW: your "French" SUCKS

:eyes:

[salinen]

24. Joself

Lieberman, aaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh! He does have nice hair.

[JitterbugPerfume]

26. I pray that you are wrong Matcom

but deep in my heart I fear that you are right about this I will support a damn ham sandwich against The Evil One

[Bonobo]

23. Wrong as hell in my opinion! n/t

[bluestateguy]

25. Some people will have to be banned...

Once a presumptive nominee emerges in March, all people at DU will be expected to either rally behind the nominee or keep their mouths shut, lest they provide soundbites for FR. I'm sure some people will be unable to comply with those rules, and they will have to be invited to hit the road.

[Tatiana]

28. I don't care if the nominee is Mr. Potato Head

I'll vote for him in a national election if he has a (D) behind his name.

This is what primaries are for. To determine who the best "D" is.

But after we have the nominee, for the love of our GOTDAMN COUNTRY, we OWE it to those men who have shed blood for this pointless war, for those children going hungry right now while we throw another $87 billion for Bush's Excellent Middle East Adventure, for those seniors near poverty level now expected to save enough to stay ALIVE when they have to choose whether to eat or buy pills that they will have to cut in half, for the protesters in Miami who marched peacefully but her greeted with cops in riot gear and rubber bullets...

For your mom, for your dad, for your children, for the LOVE OF GOD OR WHOMEVER.... VOTE FOR THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE.

Either that, or accept responsibility for being a traitor to the Constitution and everything we hold sacred in this nation.

[Tatiana]

30. I will vote for Mr. Potato Head, if necessary

I'll vote for him in a national election if he has a (D) behind his name.

This is what primaries are for. To determine who the best "D" is.

But after we have the nominee, for the love of our GOTDAMN COUNTRY, we OWE it to those men who have shed blood for this pointless war, for those children going hungry right now while we throw another $87 billion for Bush's Excellent Middle East Adventure, for those seniors near poverty level now expected to save enough to stay ALIVE when they have to choose whether to eat or buy pills that they will have to cut in half, for the protesters in Miami who marched peacefully but her greeted with cops in riot gear and rubber bullets...

For your mom, for your dad, for your children, for the LOVE OF GOD OR WHOMEVER.... VOTE FOR THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE.

Either that, or accept responsibility for being a traitor to the Constitution and everything we hold sacred in this nation.

[Schmendrick54]

31. One reason why I think you are wrong.

Hi matcom.

I think your pessimism on this subject is unwarranted for the following reason -- even if people here are angry about the Democratic Party's Presidential nominee, there will be a few months for the anger to dissipate, followed by the Republican 9/11 shameless exploitation fest in NYC. I believe that virtually 100% of the posters here will be motivated to support whichever candidate we nominate after witnessing the disgusting spectacle of Bush's attempted exploitation of the grief of the 9/11 victims (despite the fact that he has stonewalled their demands for a thorough investigation.)

I am sure you will be happy if you turn out to be wrong.

Best Regards,
Schmendrick (a Dean supporter who will enthusiastically support Kucinich -- or Kerry -- or Clark -- or Lieberman -- or Gephardt -- or Braun -- or Sharpton -- or Edwards -- or Gore -- or WHOEVERYOULEFTOUT!)

[ozone_man]

34. I will support Kucinich,

and I'm a Dean supporter. The others don't seem have anything to offer (Bush lite, IWR, etc.). If Dean did not make I would throw my support to Kucnich or whoever the 3rd party candidate is.

[Julien Sorel]

35. Kind of funny, seeing these posts spring up all of a sudden

from the Deanites, after they spent months of viciously bashing every other candidate. Now they like what they see, and it's time for kumbaya.

I wouldn't worry. If Dean is the nominee, his natural affability will quickly unite the party, especially the Bush-lite, crypto-Republicans, and the fascist pink tu-tus who voted for the war, and everyone will fall in line, both here and elsewhere, and work hard for that talented, and above all, honest and above board, man. It would be an honor, in fact, to treat Dean and his followers with the exact same courtesy and respect they've shown to their fellow Democrats, especially those crypto-Republican fascist war mongerers in their pink tu-tus.

Have you ever seen a trained cockroach? Amazing things, actually.

[SOteric]

36. I wonder if it wouldn't ease relationships considerably

if folks consider how much crow they'll have to eat when the candidate they're serving on pitard today ends up being the only viable alternative to Bush, -before committing vitriol to text.

[karlschneider]

37. I believe (and hope) you're wrong. I'm undecided for now, but will damn

sure support whoever wins the nomination.

It's a no-brainer.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

38. So what...Du is about 5000 people in real life

[UTUSN]

39. The Hostility Has Been Wrenching

I'm not going to stir the pot by naming camps. I'm a KERRY supporter. Some other camps flood the board with their pro-threads for their candidate, which wouldn't bother me if they also wouldn't flood with ANTI-threads and especially on other candidates' pro-threads flooding with anti-posts.

There's something very needless going on: In a group like us, a good number of us have our choice made, we made it early, and no amount of "debating" and prostletyzing(sp) is going to sway us at the primary level. "Conversion" is just NOT going to happen. So, those of us who are HERE trying to convert people would better spend their resources in reaching people OUT THERE in the real world. So the constant head-butting just builds hostility that will, indeed, be near impossible to overcome.

[Scott Lee]

44. Mature people won't remain hostile. The rest, well...you know.

Let's just say the nomination will expose the natures of several of us ;)

[Tatiana]

47. We should let the candidates speak for themselves.

I swear, sometimes I think some posters here go to bed with some of the candidates... the anger is so palatable.

[Bunny]

40. matcom, I agree.

Those of us who have been around a while will remember the 2002 elections when Skinner nearly had to shut this place down cause we were killing each other. Registrations were suspended, posts that advocated for voting for anyone that wasn't a Dem were forbidden,and etc.

I'm vehemently ABB, I honestly have no real preference in the Dem candidates. But like you said, it doesn't matter. We're so polarized that we will not come together and support the eventual nominee.

[stewert]

41. I Disagree...........

I will support whoever wins the democratic party nomination, as I will bet 99% of all
other democrats will.

People have a specific candidate now because there are 9 of them, when it's down to
1 almost everyone will support him.

I support Kerry now, and I will vote for him, but if Dean wins I will support him 1000
percent.

Hell even if the republican Lieberman wins the nomination I will support him 1000 percent.

[Leftist78]

43. You're probably right...

but I hope you're wrong.

[in_cog_ni_to]

48. I will vote for whoever

the nominee is. If it's Lieberman, I will have to go to the polls with a gas mask on, but I'll do it! :7

[kodi]

49. AL GORE - HILLARY CLINTON IN 2004

lets face it.

none of the current candidates would produce a ticket as powerful as gore/clinton.

there are no more articulate and inspiring leaders in the democratic party than al gore and hillary clinton, but apparently the dems would rather go with their second or even third team against bush.

good luck.

[incapsulated]

50. What do you mean by "support"?

If you mean "actively promote during the general", you may be right.

If you mean sit at home during the general, I think you are wrong.

[JohnLocke]

51. kick

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[Padraig18]

52. ABB!

I will fight tooth-and-nail for my candidate to gain the nomination, but if he doesn't, then I will work my fingers to the bone to see to it that whoever DOES win it is elected President in November!

If people here are so personally-invested in a given candidate that they fail to see the larger issue---- regaining our sovereign right to be a self-governing people--- then they should be ashamed to call themselves 'Democrats'! :grr:

[woofless]

54. We'll be fine

and for those who can't get behind ABB, fuckem. DU means a lot to all of us but we are still a small minority of the Party as a whole. Let's not lose sight of the fact that its not gonna be DU'ers who decide. What happens here is relevant and important to US but will not be the deciding factor. If they flame, let them burn.

Woof