MSNBC Cancelling Buchanan & Press

[TNOE]

Damn - the networks just are not going to let the left have an opinion in the mainstream media. They have rendered Crossfire useless at 1/2 hour and on earlier - I always really liked Bill Press - thought he was fair. They haven't even found a replacement yet!!!! Nope, nothing but Bush propaganda 24/7 - along with spurts of Michael Jackson, Kobe, and Laci Peterson.

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/entertainment/7348649.htm

[jenk]

1. CANCEL MOTHERFUCKING SCARBOROUGH!!!!

HE CAN BARELY SQUEEK OUT A 0.4 RATING!!!!!!

[TNOE]

3. Seriously -

I'm sick of his beady eyes and I can't stand to watch. Going to run the Abrams report twice????????? Tell me this doesn't stink to high heaven.

[rumguy]

4. yes

scarby's show is a crime against nature...

press and buchanan I used to watch a little and it was a hella lot less revolting than most of the rest of cable news

[TacticalPeek]

5. Too obvious, too free market, too real world.

These are suits, remember.

:evilgrin:

[Booberdawg]

36. Are his ratings that bad?

He's just nauseous to listen to. Has a whiny voice even. *shudder*

[Hogarth]

46. I agree.

Scarborough is the worst! He looks like a kid I used to know in my youth who liked to pitch hoseshoes and eat Knox gellatin for fun. His home was occupied by no parents, but aunts and uncles. He liked to collect pennies and little plastic army men. As I recall, his goal in life was to find a 1909 VDBS penny.

He was all right, and I hung out with him now and then, but he's who comes to mind every time I see Scarborough--a beady-eyed lizard-kid.

I remember that none of us in my small hometown ever went to that door to beg for candy on Halloween because (and I apologize to all witches) we thought his aunts rode brooms.

I wonder what he's doing now. I know he suffered a brain injury on Main street thirty years ago while all the lawn mowers were powered up, up and down the street, but I know he survived. I just wonder.

[Timefortruth]

2. Damn, that's incredible.

In a way it might be good. If there are two foxes then that audience is divided.

The problem is that there are three

[Khephra]

6. Muther &&CKER!

I don't like Pat, but he has his own mind and speaks it. And Press is a voice of reason in the current swamp of media.

One less show to watch. It's really starting to feel like wartime as all I watch and hear are on the internet, PBS, NRP, Pacifica, or ....that's it.

FUC* them!

[mmonk]

7. I need the BBC on

more than I get it. Well, that doesn't leave too much to watch. Nowhere to go for information.

[UTUSN]

8. Lament for Bill PRESS

He has been the steadiest, strongest Lib voice for years. He's continuing as a "contributer" on MSRNC, way so not enough.

[rumguy]

9. what was b and p ratings?

anyone know?

[Cleita]

10. I like Bill Press too and he has been mistreated by first CNN

and now MSNBC. I won't miss Pat. I hope there is a place for Bill if the cable news channel they are talking about buying with Al Gore, ever comes about. His insights are too good to be wasted on conservative blowhards.

[eissa]

11. I remember being just as mad

when they canceled Donahue, but how do you reply when they use the "low ratings" argument?

[TNOE]

16. I believe it turned out that they lied

about his ratings - they were actually pretty high. I was so pissed when Donahue got cancelled - I wrote them one hell of an e-mail as well as did many other DU'ers - but to no avail. Must be a lot of money in it for them to not care about ratings - just as long as the "message" is getting out - the right one.

[terrya]

17. I wish Donahue had done the show with an audience.

That's Phil's strong point. I think the show would have done better in the ratings had they gone with that format.

There was a bit of poetic justice when that hideous Michael Savage got his show canned.

[Eric J in MN]

35. Donahue did have an studio audience near the end of the run (nt).

nt

[elperromagico]

44. Simple. Cite "Hardball."

Hell, cite the whole fucking network! Nothing on MSNBC gets more than half a million viewers, except for (possibly) Imus in the Morning, which isn't even an MSNBC show.

[leftofthedial]

12. ridiculous

if it was even about ratings, I'd be disapoointed, but I'd understand. They cancel shows that are doing okay and keep shows that no one watches.

Bogus!

[elfin]

13. Write them NOW

http://www.msnbc.com/news/970246.asp

This is the only Email I could find on their site.

[economic justice]

14. Too bad

That's too bad. Bill Press has always been great and, actually, while not always agreeing with Buchanan, I respect his opinion which is always reasoned and rather independent on many issues. They both probably gave the network ulcers. I'll miss Press a lot....but honestly I'll miss them both with their civil back and forth versus some of the more raucus shows. Go figure.

[TNOE]

15. Yep

my sentiments exactly.

[janx]

42. Exactly. They had one of the only civil conversations left

on cable news. But cable news has become the lowest-common denominator pimp in the media.

It's really sad.

I was even beginning to respect Pad from time to time.

Well, let them go. Some other and more enterprising spirits will come up with better programming. MSNBC has no real direction of its own.

[UTUSN]

18. Meanwhile That Journo Paragon, Tweety,

is doing a Michael JACKSON show. He has yet, to date, found it worth any airtime to do a show on Enron.

[UTUSN]

26. Now He's Flogging the "The RAYGUNS" Dead Horse

He's got Ron Jr on and tried kissing up (anybody named RAYGUN), but he didn't count on Ron Jr. Tweety said that the script was so stoopid and made the RAYGUN couple out to be SO STOOPID that "Liberals would be stoopid to believe it." Jr replied, "Well, Liberals are NOT stupid..." Haha. Off topic.

[oasis]

19. Buchannan made the mistake of not being a Bush, pro -war cheerleader.

He'll remain on PBS's "Mclaughlin Group" telling it like it is on the Iraq occupation.

[RummyTheDummy]

20. Oh, they'll find a replacement......

They'll just trot out the first right wing hate monger that shows up to fill out an application.

Prediction: WIthin a year, Olberman will be gone and MSNBC will succeed in out Fauxing Faux. As it is, they're close already.

[economic justice]

21. Actually

It's funny....Fox is trying (ever so slightly) to be a bit more fair while MSNBC is running to the right to pass them. Tony Snow on Fox actually did a good job Sunday trying to get Hastert to admit that the Medicare bill won't help the vast majority of seniors.

[FrenchieCat]

22. I watched Buchanan and Press today....(why, I don't know)

and I am glad they are getting cancelled.

Those two (buchanan & press) were sitting around with a Weekly Standard and a Newsweek reporter discussing the debates. Of course they discussed how Dean walked in as a winner and walked out as a winner. Than they ridiculed Kerry and his wife. Then Mr. Press got up the courage to say that he felt that another person that had done well was Clark. He said that he had really come into his own. The others looked shocked that he even had brought up his name, and it looked to me that Press was totally afraid to have even mentioned it, eyes cast down and the whole nine yards!

To conclude, Buchanan said something like well what do you think of Clark to the guy from the Weekly Standard...and that guy said, well you know he messed up when he first started running. It's too late for him now. Then the other guy chimed in, yes that how should have started out, the way that he was last night. Then the other said, well he couldn't even make up his mind on the war, blah blah......

Anyhow the bottomline is that Buchanan and the other two reporters totally dismissed Clark...and then Press meekly agreed.

It was unreal.

I'M GLAD THEY ARE GETTING CANCELLED...TWO LESS MEDIA WHORES IS BETTER THAN NONE!

[economic justice]

23. I disagree

While I disagree with one or both of them most of the time, they were not "media whores"....I think that's WHY they got canceled.

[FrenchieCat]

25. It's relative......

They are whores TO ME because they don't just say what they want....whether they gave you that impression is another story.

I know the media well......and Press was scared today as he brought Clark up. If you didn't see it, then you can't relate. I saw what I saw, and it was stunning!

[Khephra]

24. I'm sorry that you missed both of them questioning the "offical"

line during the 2nd Iraq War. Neither of them were party people and actually spoke as humans, and with respect for the other's opinions. Neither were big on the "interupt the opposition" school.

You don't know what you missed.

[Eric J in MN]

33. Bill Press can't disagree with everything a conservative says.

Bill Press did well. He was one of four people, so he couldn't respond to everything.

[Khephra]

27. Abrams is a snotish "lets talk about court cases" desk jockey

B&P were the only show that I watched on MSNBC. Off to Fauxland with you now!

[incapsulated]

28. Although I don't really watch them much anymore

I was stunned that they lasted as long as they did, considering the slamming they both did of Bush on the war.

I'm sure they will be replaced with some loudmouthed rw moron, who will toe the company line..

[grasswire]

30. Buchanan isn't a bush-bot

That's probably the reason. Buchanan has no love for the Bushies, and knows his sh*t and is bold enough to speak the truth.

Rove couldn't risk them being around in the campaign.

[incapsulated]

31. Buchanan is a confirmed isolationist

So I wasn't surprised by his attitude. He never wants to use the military for any reason whatsoever, heh. He was aganist taking any action against bin Laden if it meant going outside the US to get him. And you can throw in WW2, needless to say.

I don't think he hates Bush, though, not so much that you could tell, anyways. He will defend him up and down as long as it doesn't conflict his big three "issues": Israel, abortion and any involvement outside the country that isn't strictly buisness.

[PROGRESSIVE1]

29. Learn Liberals!!!! BOYCOTT! BOYCOTT! BOYCOTT! BOYCOTT!

This is was the Right does when they don't get their way!!!!
Boycott conservative artists in Hollywood, boycott Country "Music"!
Put presure on these POS's to change and STOP ASSAULTING LIBERALS!

I am sick and tired of this whiney liberal, "oh we shouldn't play their game" crap!

:wtf: is wrong with you, stand up and don't take this crap anymore!!!

:puke: Cable "News"

[Cleita]

37. Well, it won't be hard to boycott MSNBC now.

Buchanan & Press was the only show of theirs I watched after Donohue was cancelled. Now I have no reason to watch them at all. I certainly don't put them on for the news or for Tweety.

[1songbird]

40. I agree with you completely.

I hate cable news! I ordered the lite form of cable so that I only get a few essential cable stations such as C-SPAN and C-SPAN2. I refuse to support FAUX, MSNBC, or CNN just to have cable.

[Eric J in MN]

32. The Al Gore Network

Al Franken said last week that Al Gore's plans for a liberal radio network aren't finalized, but if that project goes through, I hope they hire Bill Press.

[Booberdawg]

34. That was one of the few programs I liked

While I don't care for Buchanans views all the time, he has been critical of bush*, and I don't ever feel like he is giving the cnned right wing talking points. And I like Bill Press most of the time.

[AntiCoup2K4]

38. Two reasons why MSRNC was told to dump Buchanan & Press

1) Though Pat is conservative as Hell, he's not a PNAC'er and has taken several public stances against the PNAC/Bush agenda. Republicans must not be allowed to see any of their party's "stars" oppose Der Fuhrer.

2) Buchanan argued with his liberal cohosts and guests fairly reasonably, as opposed to the "shout em down and if that doesn't work, cut their microphones" approach of FAUX News. Liberal viewpoints must not be heard on TV, or the brainwashed masses might realize MSRNC has been feeding them a steady diet of BULLSHIT.

On the other hand, this frees up Pat's time for a third party Presidential run which can split the right wing vote :evilgrin:

Go Pat Go!!

[Neecy]

39. totally agree

I dislike Buchanan's politics, but I'll give him this - he isn't a screamer, doesn't shout down his guests, doesn't get hysterical at the drop of a hat, and doesn't slobber all over Bush and cabal constantly.

This was the only MSRNC show I watched just because it wasn't a couple of screaming idiots shouting over each other. It was civilized, generally well-informed discourse and naturally we can't have that on cable news.

Cable news continues its slide into celebrity sensationalism, shark attacks, and all-Bush-all-time time whoredom.

[elperromagico]

45. I hate to say it, but Pat Buchanan is

almost likeable.

[IndianaGreen]

41. Best Pat Buchanan quote

"Republicans and Democrats are two wings of the same bird of prey."

[in_cog_ni_to]

43. Maybe they will

bring back Donahue? :eyes:

[kid shelleen]

47. Even money sez Coulter gets their slot

n/t

[elperromagico]

48. Even money says I'll throw my TV into the lake.

n/t

[DrFunkenstein]

49. Crap, I Actually Like That Show

I disagree with Buchanan, but I don't think he is a right-wing shill. He actually seems to believe what he says, and isn't just trying to score brownie points with Ed Gillespie.