coloradodem2005
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Wed Nov-26-03 12:10 AM
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We all know that Bush considers himself to be a Christian, but... |
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What do you think? I used to consider myself to be pretty religious, but his and the religious right's actions have been a real turnoff for me.
How "Christian" do you think that Bush and some of these others truly are based on their actions?
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nothingshocksmeanymore
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Wed Nov-26-03 12:11 AM
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Even the devil can quote scripture.
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Wed Nov-26-03 12:13 AM
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2. Beware of false prophets |
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or in Enron's case, false profits.
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coloradodem2005
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Wed Nov-26-03 12:13 AM
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Wed Nov-26-03 12:16 AM
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4. Bush doesn't believe he's a Christian |
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He just says what wins him affection, as he's done all his life. He lies so thoroughly that I doubt he has any real beliefs. he's a complete sociopath. He'd claim he was a gay transvestite named Jula if he thought it would win him the love that his daddy never gave him. (No offense to gay transvestites named Jula).
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Wed Nov-26-03 01:08 AM
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a sociopath can at least feign emotions. he is a fucking narcissitic prig. AND a momma's boy.
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Wed Nov-26-03 12:18 AM
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I read a Newsweek article a few months ago and believe me, it's all an act.
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coloradodem2005
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Wed Nov-26-03 12:22 AM
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7. Could you give me the web address for the article? |
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Wed Nov-26-03 12:35 AM
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10. It was in the paper copy of Newsweek . |
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There is no link. You may be able to search Newsweek.com for it? I "think" you have to pay to read articles on their web site though. I read it this past summer. Probably around July or August?
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George_Bonanza
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Wed Nov-26-03 12:21 AM
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Bush is Christian in name only |
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A man who contradicts Jesus Christ's message of standing up for the oppressed poor and being peaceful with others has been contradictory to Bush's rule. Thousands dead in Iraq in a useless war and tax cuts for the rich. Some Christian. It's sort of like how Hitler exploited the socialist label to attract workers. Bush exploits the Christian label to attract fearful religious people.
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Wed Nov-26-03 12:21 AM
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--I have a valid excuse for not going through a church door in 12 years. :bounce:
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Wed Nov-26-03 12:25 AM
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8. Based on there actions |
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They are anti-Christian But words are all that matters to some.
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A HERETIC I AM
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Wed Nov-26-03 12:31 AM
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9. The fundamentalist right that Bush answers to want only one thing... |
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a "Christian America" And thats it. Yeah...this country is SOOO anti xtian. Check out this site: http://www.infidels.org/misc/humor/lioaca.html
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Wed Nov-26-03 12:37 AM
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If he is, he is a very shallow and poorly churched Christian. He doesn't act Christian at all.
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Wed Nov-26-03 12:51 AM
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If merely acting pious while killing others and claiming God makes your decisions makes you a Christian, then Bush is one. Obviously, that's not what Christianity is about.
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Wed Nov-26-03 12:38 AM
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12. Bush's supposed "Christianity" is a means to an end... |
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Wed Nov-26-03 12:43 AM
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Bush is deceiving the Christian right. His actions don't reflect what Jesus would do. Obviously, by his actions, he is not winning people to want to become Christian-like. I am also very wary of him by the "Road Map" peace plan regarding Israel and Palestine. The Bible said whoever supports Israel will be blessed and whoever doesn't will be cursed. The Bible also talks about people being deceived and people will believe a lie. The Road Map peace plan divides what is considered God's promised land to Israel. The Bible says whoever assists with this will experience destruction. I also believe the conservatives are making a hug mistake by intertwining church and state. Yes, we must have values so that no harm can come to one another. Every culture has a set of values similar to Christian values. Value-based laws can still exist but when you start taking the freedoms away from one group, it can easily taken away from you as well. Very dangerous. God gave us a choice to serve him, so in America, every human should have the freedom to make the choices they want to make. It will all be judged by God in the end. Shouldn't be by us. We should observe 2 universal commandments: 1. Love your God and 2. Love your brother. That's all Jesus said regarding the commandments in the New Testaments. You do this and it follows all the other commandments. Bush, his administration, and the Christian right are not following this commandment. I also don't think Jesus would want corporations benefitting off the money of citizens who are poor, sick, etc. In my opinion, Jesus was more of a socialist than a fascist. Not that I advocate socialism, but Jesus went and shared with the poor and the sick and sinful above all else. I don't see that out of Repugs. Its beyond me how Christians can follow the Republican path with a thinking mind of their own if they really truly understood the Bible the way I feel I do.!:shrug: Sorry if I sound too preachy to some. I just had to get that off my chest and share since coloradodem2004 asked ;-)
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Wed Nov-26-03 01:05 AM
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15. The Trojan Christian!!!!! |
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He is a phoney guy. Its all a poor act by a poor actor. How people suck for his spiel is amazing. Loloism rate confirmed.
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Wed Nov-26-03 01:15 AM
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19. Actually Jesus could be said to be a communist. |
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Few know that the idea of Communism came from the time just after Jesus was killed where the disciples of Jesus “held all things in common”
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Wed Nov-26-03 01:26 AM
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24. Jesus certainly preached equality and justice for all |
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His ideal system would've probably been something like a socialism where wealth is magnanimously distributed and wisely spread out.
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Wed Nov-26-03 01:06 AM
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16. he is not christian in the Jesus way |
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but a follower of that peculiar twin Jeebus. sort of like gallant and gofus.
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Wed Nov-26-03 01:13 AM
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18. A tree is known by the fruit it bears |
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Bush is so confused. He is a Methodist which is one of the more moderate Christian groups. The United Methodist came out strong against this war and they don't believe in oppression of the poor. Bush does not adhere to his own church's doctrine so go figure.
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Wed Nov-26-03 01:18 AM
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he went from drugs and alcohol to religion - he bastardized what "Christian" means. I know a lot of people like this - they say they are but don't have an understanding of what it really means. Praying face down in the oval office and saying "God" has given him the power he has is a bunch of crap. Sorry.
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Wed Nov-26-03 01:23 AM
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21. How does he stack up to the 7 deadly sins? |
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Pride is excessive belief in one's own abilities, that interferes with the individual's recognition of the grace of God. It has been called the sin from which all others arise. Pride is also known as Vanity.
nationalism anyone?
Envy is the desire for others' traits, status, abilities, or situation.
must...have...power....
Gluttony is an inordinate desire to consume more than that which one requires.
It's the "G" in GOP.
Lust is an inordinate craving for the pleasures of the body.
Damn Clinton.
Anger is manifested in the individual who spurns love and opts instead for fury. It is also known as Wrath.
Do you need me to spell it out for you?
Greed is the desire for material wealth or gain, ignoring the realm of the spiritual. It is also called Avarice or Covetousness.
or is this the "G" in GOP, you be the judge.
Sloth is the avoidance of physical or spiritual work.
Vacation Vacation Vacation!
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Wed Nov-26-03 01:23 AM
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22. Do these sound like Christian sentiments to you? |
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Edited on Wed Nov-26-03 01:26 AM by elperromagico
"There's Adam Clymer -- major league asshole -- from the New York Times." -An expression of Christian love and understanding from Governor Bush, 2000
Interviewer: “When you’re not talking politics, what do you and (your father) talk about?” Bush: “Pussy.” - Bush's Christian love of family rears its head at the 1988 Republican Convention
"Please, please don’t kill me." - Bush's Christlike mocking of fellow Christian Karla Faye Tucker's request for clemency. {Note that Bush did extend clemency to self-described Satanist Henry Lee Lucas}
"You fucking son of a bitch. I saw what you wrote. We're not going to forget this." - Bush shares the message of Christ's salvation with Al Hunt
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Wed Nov-26-03 01:26 AM
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23. He hasn't proven that this country can turn the other cheek. |
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Do I need to say anymore?
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Wed Nov-26-03 02:38 AM
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25. You want people to decide if someone |
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is a good Christian or not?
That's way above my pay grade. No stone tossing here.
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