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bain_sidhe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 04:42 PM
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Two more Bush* foes "commit suicide" apparently...
Picked this up from the Democrats.com daily news briefs. I apologize if it's a dupe, I can't find any reference to either of the stories. They're not "late breaking news," both of them happened a while ago, one in September, and one the first week of November. While the woman who filed the rape charges did seem a half a bubble off level, still, a number of things about her "suicide" do seem strange. And the State Dept official's "suicide" is just... er, awfully convenient.

Mystery Surrounds Death of State Dept. Official

Wayne Madsen writes: "In a case eerily reminiscent of the death of British Ministry of Defense bio-weapons expert, Dr. David Kelly, an official of the State Department's Bureau of Intelligence and Research Near East and South Asian division (INR/NESA), John J. Kokal, 58, was found dead in the late afternoon of November 7. Police indicated he may have jumped from the roof of the State Department. Kokal's body was found at the bottom of a 20 foot window well, 8 floors below the roof of the State Department headquarters near the 23rd and D Street location. Kokal's death was briefly mentioned in a FOX News website story on November 8 but has been virtually overlooked by the major media... Kokal's INR bureau was at the forefront of confronting claims that Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction. Washington police have not ruled out homicide as the cause of his death. Kokal was not wearing either a jacket or shoes when his body was found. He lived in Arlington, Virginia."
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/112003_kokal.html

The Strange Death of the Woman Who Filed a Rape Lawsuit against Bush

Jackson Thoreau writes: "Early one Saturday afternoon in July 2003, I made a simple phone call to Margie Schoedinger, a Texas woman who filed a rape lawsuit against George W. Bush in December 2002. I expected to leave a message on a machine, so I was caught a little offguard when Schoedinger answered. She, too, sounded somewhat surprised I had called, saying she hadn't heard from many other reporters. But she talked to me for a few minutes about the legal action. 'I am still trying to prosecute ,' said Schoedinger, a 38-year-old African-American woman who lived in the Houston suburb of Missouri City. 'I want to get this matter settled and go on with my life.' Well, Schoedinger hasn't gone on with her life. In fact, three months after I spoke to her, she died in an apparent suicide. And this matter remains unsettled."
http://www.opednews.com/thoreau1103bush_rape_suicide.htm
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 04:49 PM
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1. Well my $ on homicide

"Kokal's INR bureau was at the forefront of confronting claims that Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction. Washington police have not ruled out homicide"

To what lengths will people in power go? The answer is all

Always has been.
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 09:34 PM
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7. have political murders ever been uncommon?
I mean in the history of civilization and centralized states, has it ever been uncommon to murder political foes? Hard to believe it doesn't happen all the time.
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patdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 05:02 PM
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2. WOW defenestration, who'd have thought what this word meant
I thought it meant some sort of conspiracy to snuff out someone who had the goods on you...NOOOOOOO it just means tossing something or someone out of a window...I am shocked...shocked I tell you!!!

Thanks for this..besides enlarging my vocabulary...wait..i am about to defenestrate...it is truly eye opening regarding the secrecy surrounding his death...it should be like Vince Foster at least. :grr:
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Field Of Dreams Donating Member (570 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 09:17 PM
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6. Wow! I defenestrated a couple of times in college and
didn't even realize it!
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bain_sidhe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 06:44 PM
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3. Kick. Just because
I can't believe nobody has any thing to say, so they just must not have seen it!

:kick:
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booley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 07:28 PM
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4. I'm of two minds
the paranoid part of me wants to add this to the long list of other things that prove that Shrub incorporated is evil. Thouygh I have no idea what to do with such info.

The less paranoid side that knows how poorly repubs handle thier own tactics thinks this would be a great seed for a "Bush files" where strange deaths surrounding Bush are al highlighted as "suspicouse" just like they did for Clinton.

Seriously though, I think we still need more proof before we can accuse somebody of murder like this. I mean, even if the woman had sworn on a stack of bibles that Buish raped her, the repubs would make some remark about Clinton and the story would never see the light of day on any mainstream media.
We all know that repubs as a group do not follow the rules that they like to condemn everybody else with. Why should now be any different? why kill somebody that would never be beleived anyway?
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 09:12 PM
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5.  "why kill somebody that would never be beleived anyway?"
Edited on Wed Nov-26-03 09:14 PM by Karenina
To MAKE SURE the charge is not repeated and that NO ONE discover that there might have been some truth to it. FISH HEADS, FISH HEADS, THEY DON'T TALK!
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 09:35 PM
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8. #1 Rule of Conspiracies: No one EVER commits suicide
I don't know about the Kokal death, but Ms Schoedinger was a sad, delusional woman. She is an example of how people with debilitating emotional problems are falling between the cracks in the social safety net. However, she was, by no stretch of the imagination, a "foe" of the president.

While you state that Mr Kokal's bureau was working on Bushco's bogus Iraqi claims, there seems to be nothing in this story so far to suggest that he was an enemy of the president's (beyond of course the extent to which truth is an enemy of the president's).

The incredibly lame manner in which they tried to take Joe Wilson and Valerie Plame out of the picture tells me this is not a group of people likely to pop a DoS underling at random over a lack of facts backing up their damned war.

If the Bushies were so good at clandestine stuff, how come they haven't planted any WMD evidence yet?
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BringEmOn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 02:29 AM
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9. Godfather quote
Michael Corleone: My father's no different than any other powerful man. Any man who's responsible for other people, like a Senator, or a President.

Kay Adams: Do you know how naive you sound?

Michael Corleone: Why?

Kay Adams: Senators and Presidents don't have men killed.

Michael Corleone: Oh. Who's being naive, Kay?
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 02:34 AM
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10. The first guy was actually associated with the BFEE,
I heard....it sounded as if the CIA had something to do with his death.

And the lady that was "raped" was a long-time mental patient.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 02:34 AM
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11. Dupe
Edited on Thu Nov-27-03 02:36 AM by BullGooseLoony
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