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Fixated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 05:39 PM
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Poll question: Which candidate should drop out?
Of the nine, which should drop out of the race? If you think more than one should pick your main man/woman.
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SeveneightyWhoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 05:44 PM
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1. LOL..when I voted, Clark was second place in this poll.
Now can someone tell me why Clark should drop out? Is it just that he's too much of a threat to your candidate? I guess having YOUR candidate be the nominee is more important than beating Bush...how sad.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 05:51 PM
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4. It's too early for anyone to drop out. People voting for Clark or

Kucinich are scared of those guys, don't want their guy beaten. They're scared of Clark because he could be another Clinton, only better, and Kucinich because he shows some of the others up as being pretty namby pamby in their positions on the issues.
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SeveneightyWhoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 05:56 PM
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6. You honestly think anyone is..
..scared of Kucinich, of all people? Wow, snap back into reality.
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sleipnir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 05:55 PM
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5. Probably just Clark-haters
Same reason that Dean has some votes, too...
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bhunt70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 05:47 PM
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2. Lieberman definately
I think Lieberman alienates people.
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SeveneightyWhoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 05:48 PM
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3. Not only that, but he's a goof.
He's even goofier than Kucinich. Of course I respect him as a person, but as a politician, I simply do not see how he's gotten this far.
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 06:12 PM
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10. Goofier than Kucinich?
It's hard to believe that anyone's goofier than Kucinich.

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karlschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 10:30 PM
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37. I take issue with your comment. Kucinich is NOT goofy, not by any stretch
I do believe he unfortunately is unelectable, however. At this moment, I would say the same thing about all the other Dem candidates as well.
But in 6 months, that opinion may well change - I certainly hope so.

There are going to be many incidents between now and 11/04. How they play out is certainly beyond my ken.

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skibunny4dean Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 07:22 PM
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18. Lieberman is a Republican is sheep's clothing
Always has been, always will be.
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mlawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 06:08 PM
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7. Why should anyone drop out now???
It just makes the repukes and the media whores happy when they do.

Hey, NINE voices are better than eight! (Or is it eight voices better than seven?)
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SeveneightyWhoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 06:09 PM
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8. You've got it backwards.
Things'll get more serious, and scary for the Bushists, when the field narrows down to the most Presidential candidates.
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mlawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 06:50 PM
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14. ??? What is the only reason anyone ever drops out??
Because they have to admit that they are NOT going to win. They might not actually say it, but it must be implicit. So, it's one less Dem face for KKKRove to have to worry about.

The more Dem candidates, the more time the repukes have to spend, monitoring our guys. And time is money.
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Fixated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 06:58 PM
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15. ....
But we KNOW Kucinich, Braun, Sharpton...even Edwards, can't win the primary. So why keep them in? The Republicans don't fear DK.
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mlawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 07:03 PM
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16. Because at each appearance they LET BUSH HAVE IT!!
Knowing that they have nothing to lose, they can say exactly what they want. The public needs to hear it. Once they drop out, media coverage of them disappears. Like that of Al Gore.

BTW, Edwards can certainly win the primaries, beginning with SC.
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Blitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 09:32 PM
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33. Trust me
No Republican is spending a cent monitoring Kucinich or Sharpton or Mosely-Braun or Edwards (who has committed the most spectacular act of political hari-kari in recent memory). In fact, the Republicans won't start really spending money until a potential victor begins to emerge. The longer the Democrats fight with each other (and spend their limited funds fighting each other), the happier the Republicans are. This is a five man race at the moment and will probably be down to three or four pretty soon. However, Bush, Rove & co. would like nothing better than for the Democrats to come into their convention with the nomination up for grabs and three or more candidates still bitterly fighting it out.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 06:09 PM
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9. I agree. Thats why I voted none should drop out yet n/t
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 06:17 PM
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11. Holy Joe of course,then he'll have time to switch parties.....n/t
...
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Fixated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 06:29 PM
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12. .....
I can't believe so many people voted for Clark/Dean. The rivalry is out of control...why would the frontrunner drop?
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 06:50 PM
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13. All but Clark, Dean and Kerry.
The rest dont have a snowballs chance in hell and most DUers know it!

IMO Kuchinich and Moselely-Braun are the best for what they stand for regarding democratic princples, but in this age with the voter mentality out there, they would never be considered by the swing vote. Kuchinich is viewed as too liberal and Moseley-Braun is a woman and would not be viable with the knuckledragger mentality/christian values crowd that seems to exist in the repugs and a great section of the swing/Joe Sixpack voters.
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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 07:27 PM
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21. Gephardt Is Tied In Iowa, Edwards Is Doing Well In SC
I can't see knocking them out just yet. Although I really REALLY want the debates to be smaller.
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burr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 07:18 PM
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17. It has to be Edwards...
Shouldn't he be running for re-election? :shrug:
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mlawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 08:01 PM
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26. He's already pulled out of that.
Suggests to me that he has been promised something nice next year. He was polling 15 points ahead of his assumed repukes opponent in NC (named Burr, BTW). Or is it Durr?
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burr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 09:01 PM
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30. Is that an accusation???
Dear me...how I'm shitting in my boots! :scared:
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 07:25 PM
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19. Holy Joe, you've got to go!
n/t
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creativelcro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 07:26 PM
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20. C'mon, whomever voted Dean could not be serious...
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 07:31 PM
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22. Really?
He is not universally loved here.
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Fixated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 07:58 PM
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25. ...
No, but he's winning.
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creativelcro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 08:06 PM
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27. This poll is not about loving
Edited on Wed Nov-26-03 08:08 PM by creativelcro
is about who can realistically be competitive in the primary... Dean obviously is whether you love him or not... If you disagree then the poll should have been worded differently: who do you love ?
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AmericanDem Donating Member (521 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 08:31 PM
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28. WOW, really? This is serious?
Hmmm for a guy like yourself that set a poll as Clark for VP and then adding Bush as 1 of the options, you complain alot.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=780820&mesg_id=780820
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 07:32 PM
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23. How about another choice?
Chimpy.
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last1standing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 07:56 PM
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24. As much as I wanted to vote for Lieberman..
I voted Sharpton. He stands no chance of winning and he is doing little at this point other than throwing barbs at the other candidates and taking up valuable debate time. Lieberman, as much as I loathe his moralizing and hawkishness, is very much viable in the polls. There's no legitimate reason he should bow out at this point.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 08:38 PM
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29. I'll give the diplomatic answer
Nobody needs to drop out just yet, however those who choose to do so are welcome. Those who do not do well in either Iowa or New Hampshire should strongly consider it. Those who don't have a prayer after Super Tuesday had better get a reality check and let the (all but official) nominee get on with the business of KICKING GEORGE BUSH JUNIOR'S CRIMINAL ASS!!

Ok, maybe that last part wasn't entirely diplomatic, but that's the point when it comes to taking on the enemy. And in this case, it's not a mere political opponent, it is the true enemies of every man, woman and child in this country
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AmericanDem Donating Member (521 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 09:03 PM
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31. Dean has his fan club
truly a polarizing figure Dean is.
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arewethereyet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 09:30 PM
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32. I see by the tally that Edwards should be our nominee !
only 2 feel he should drop so he apparantly has the most reason to stay !

you see, you just can't not like this guy !
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Blitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 09:38 PM
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34. Actually, the Democrats could do a lot worse
than to have Edwards as their nominee. In fact, I think that he is one of the most viable (if not THE most viable) candidates they could field in the general election. However, he's not going to get there and has miscalculated badly in not hanging on to his Senate seat. He could have followed Gore's 1988 model but he overreached and, if he doesn't land a spot in the next administration's cabinet, one of the most promising young politicians in the land could easily fall off of the political landscape altogether. Too bad.
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arewethereyet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 09:40 PM
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36. it was the right decision for him
and I still think he'll get the nomination. its not impossible and he is far and away got he best chance to beat bush. in any event, he won't be unemployed.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 09:39 PM
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35. This is a very telling poll about folks here at DU...
..there is some common ground.
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