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Woodstock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 08:50 PM
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Libertarian site bashes Rush - "an insufferable blowhard"
Edited on Wed Nov-26-03 08:54 PM by Woodstock
Wow, the Libertarians on this site are quite angry at Bush and the neocons. There's also a powerful article on this site from a Republican congressman on the medicare bill - he says: "The new Medicare drug plan enriches pharmaceutical companies, fleeces taxpayers, and forces millions of older Americans to accept inferior drug coverage - while doing nothing to address the real reasons prescription drugs cost so much." In another article on the site, the neocons are bashed for the situation in Iraq: "despite Mr. Rove’s belated wakening to political reality, Mr. Bush will go into the 2004 election with one of two albatrosses around his neck: a continuing, losing guerilla war, with ever-increasing American casualties, or an out-and-out American defeat, where we have left Iraq very much the way the Soviets left Afghanistan. Which is, by the way, the way we will also leave Afghanistan itself..." Bush is getting the criticism he deserves from the right as well as the left (as he has been on other sites as well.) Here's the Rush bashing article from this site:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig2/casey2.html

...Perversely, Rush has always been a drug warrior. In a Playboy interview, in December 1993, he said: "By legalizing drugs, all you're going to do is define deviancy further downward." The same month, on his radio show, he said: "I'm appalled at people who simply want to look at all this abhorrent behavior and say 'People are going to do drugs anyway – let's legalize it.' It's a dumb idea, a rotten idea. And those who are for it are purely, 100 percent selfish." Rush has the gift of gab. But he's never been either a clear thinker, or intellectually honest.

The discovery of Rush's liking for opiates makes him a hypocrite, as well as an insufferable blowhard. He served a useful purpose (and was often quite funny) when Clinton was in office. But for the last three years, he's been nothing but an unconscionable flack for the Republican Party, reflexively supporting anything they do or say. My guess, therefore, is that Rush won't be arrested for buying and doing illegal narcotics... He's entirely too well wired with the Republicans...


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Bozola Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 08:55 PM
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1. What a drip
"He served a useful purpose (and was often quite funny) when Clinton was in office."

Hey, Monkeyboy, he was never funny, always a hypocrite, a republican shill, and a blowhard.

Though it's nice to see the dribbleheads thrashing Fatty, they're still unrepentant dribbleheads.
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 09:10 PM
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2. wow, look at this anti-draft article by Ron Paul on that site
The Crime of Conscription, by Rep. Ron Paul, MD (R-TX)
November 26, 2003

. . . The plan for "universal liability to serve" once again is raising its ugly head. The dollar cost of the current war is already staggering, yet plans are being made to drastically expand the human cost by forcing conscription on the young men (and maybe women) who have no ax to grind with the Iraqi people and want no part of this fight.

. . . Since the original reasons for the war never existed, it is now claimed that we’re there to make Iraq a western-style democracy and to spread western values. And besides, it’s argued, it’s nice that Saddam Hussein has been removed from power. But does the mere existence of evil somewhere in the world justify preemptive war at the expense of the American people? Utopian dreams, fulfilled by autocratic means, hardly qualify as being morally justifiable.

. . . To get more troops, the draft will likely be reinstated. The implicit prohibition of "involuntary servitude" under the 13th Amendment to the Constitution has already been ignored many times so few will challenge the constitutionality of the coming draft.

. . . A conscripted, unhappy soldier is better off in the long run than the slaves of old since the "enslavement" is only temporary. But in the short run the draft may well turn out to be more deadly and degrading, as one is forced to commit life and limb to a less than worthy cause--like teaching democracy to unwilling and angry Arabs. Slaves were safer in that their owners had an economic interest in protecting their lives.

. . . One of the worst votes that an elected official could ever cast would be to institute a military draft to fight an illegal war, if that individual himself maneuvered to avoid military service. But avoiding the draft on principle qualifies oneself to work hard to avoid all unnecessary war and oppose the draft for all others.

A government that is willing to enslave a portion of its people to fight an unjust war can never be trusted to protect the liberties of its own citizens. The ends can never justify the means, no matter what the Neo-cons say.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul144.html








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drewb Donating Member (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 09:27 PM
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5. Ron Paul is the man...
He actually makes a lot of sense... He reflects back to a time when conservatives were respectable and not the neo-con imposters of today...
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Some Moran Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 03:02 AM
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9. AuH2O!
AuH2O!
AuH2O!

Talk about conservatives capable of actually making sense. :)
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drewb Donating Member (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 08:20 AM
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11. Ron Paul is to Republicans as...
Dennis Kucinich is to Democrats...
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 09:15 PM
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3. If there was a way
to undermine the repugs, it would be to draw the votes of the libertarians in the gop. Get enough of those to cross over and let the repugs with the konservative fundies.
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 09:26 PM
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4. At least get them to NOT VOTE FOR *
Maybe we can't get them all the way to vote for a Democrat, but if they at least don't vote FOR *, whether they vote FOR anyone or not won't matter so much.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 10:30 PM
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6. Libertarians are like the hermit crab that grew out of its shell.
So ready to discard it, and look for other cover because they're vulnerable out in the open.
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Kinkistyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 11:38 PM
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7. No self-respecting Libertarian would support Shrub
Even during my Libertarian days, I would never have supported a lil sh*t like Bush. Yeah, his fiscal policy might jibe with the Libertarian ideology, but his attacks on civil liberties, church-state seperation, scientific research plus his warmongering skyrocketing increase of government size and spending far and away overshadow any type of BS tax cut he might offer. Clinton was more Libertarian than Bush ever will be.
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slaveplanet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 02:59 AM
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8. This Conservative site
rips the BFEE and the rest of the world government a new one....www.infowars.com
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drewb Donating Member (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 08:31 AM
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12. Well....
You're not :tinfoilhat: if they really are coming to get you...
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leftyandproud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 06:05 AM
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10. awesome!
I don't agree with the Libertarians on everything, but they are dead-on on this issue, as well as electronic voting, where they are even more opposed than most DU'ers.
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