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Some Moran Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 05:11 AM
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Is anybody here pro-China/anti-Taiwan?
As in naive enough to be one or more of the following things:

1. Pro-CCP
2. Pro-Pan Blue
3. Anti-Pan Green
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 07:16 AM
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1. May pay to go with the one that will win.
But I have been called a cynic.
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Muddleoftheroad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 07:17 AM
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2. We can help decide that
And we WILL be on the side of Taiwan.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 08:26 AM
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4. We're Taliking About People's Lives
not a sporting match....

If we wanted to go with the winner we could have supported the Axis powers in WW2...
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JailBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 08:21 AM
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3. I'm pro both.
I hope Taiwan preserves its independence until China becomes truly independent.
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Muddleoftheroad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 08:28 AM
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5. Taiwan
While I agree in part with your sentiment, I hope Taiwan chooses its own path in the world. If that is to join with a free and independent China, so be it. If it is not, so be that as well.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 08:58 AM
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6. People have the right of self-determination
The people of Formosa, who are as native to the island as the native Hawaiians are to theirs, have the right to have their own nation. The Formosans cannot be confused with the Chinese rabble that came to the island when Chiang was defeated by Mao.

Now, the modern-day Taiwanese, who may or may not be native Formosans, also have the right of self-determination.

Having said that, self-determination is a right that is often denied to people. The Turks deny it to the Kurds. The Israelis deny it to the Palestinians, The Chinese deny it to the Tibetans. The Americans deny it to the Native Americans, to the Iraqis, and have a long history of denying it to the people of Latin America.

In a nutshell, I support independence for Formosa, aka Taiwan. China is an authoritarian regime that keeps its provinces in line through brute force. Given a choice, many of China's provinces will choose to go the independence route.

I will bet that Bush will side with China, just as every American President has since Nixon. US foreign policy in Asia sucks big time!
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