How can gay people support the Republican Party?

[Screaming Lord Byron]

It's the same with the Canadian Alliance. How can you support a party that at it's core despises who you are?

[onebigbadwulf]

1. And black people

And poor people
And middle class people



How can anyone who is not-white not-rich not-fundamentalist support this party?

Easy - blind stupidity.

[pasadenaboy]

2. Ask Andrew Sullivan

who knows?

[IndianaGreen]

3. Ask Drudge

Some of Hitler's Storm Troopers were gay.

[camero]

4. they are the same as "conservative" Dems

They are trying to pull the repubs left on social issues while retaining the conservative economic platform.

[catzies]

15. WHAT "conservative economic platform?"

Deficits as far as the eye can see? Borrow-and-spend?

The GOP can no longer call themselves fiscally conservative.

[camero]

19. Yeah, I know, I know

I was talking about tax policy and the Log Cabin Repubs. They are more than content to keep thier wealth but they are trying to get repubs to accept them.

Much like some of us dems say we need to "fix our party" from within by going to the right ecomonically.

[Silverhair]

5. Simple answer. Gay people, like all people are not monolithic.

They have many different interests and beliefs. A gay person can still have a hard-on-crime attitude, believe in a flat tax or in a sales tax, believe in a strong military, believe that America is NOT spelled with a K, believe in supply-side economics, want social security to be privatized and so on. For that person, those issues may dominate.

What that means is that gay people are - PEOPLE.

To see them as gays first, and to think that because they are gays and must therefore follow a gay agenda is to dehumanize them.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

6. My point was - why vote for a party that despises what you are.

That makes no sense.
P.S. I see people as people. No bigotry or patronization on my part, thank you.

[Silverhair]

12. Is a gay defined ONLY by "gay interests"?

Can't a gay believe in a srong military for just one example. Democrats are routinely hostile towards the military, and usually cut military funding. (Look at all the anti-military threads and posts here. There are people here that don't trust Clark simply because he's military.) So if that is an important issue for a person who happens to be gay, might that not be paramount to that person.

Like I said: They are PEOPLE - living breathing COMPLEX human beings. To expect them to ALL "vote gay" as defined by so called gay activists is to condescend to them.

[dfong63]

7. not wishing to dehumanize anyone, but

a gay person voting republican sounds a lot like a Jew voting for Hitler, or a chicken voting for Col Sanders. i don't think it's "dehumanizing" at all to be amazed that some people seem to be voting against their own interests in a big way.

[Silverhair]

9. A human can have different and somtimes conflicting interests. n/t

[Screaming Lord Byron]

10. Ah, I get it. You're talking about fools, not homosexuals.

[nuxvomica]

14. I believe the term for that is "cognitive dissonance"

It's not a healthy state. You either go with one belief or the other or you become functionally insane. There's another term useful for this discussion: "Stockholm Syndrome", which is identification with the aggressor. I think that's behind some of the support Republicans get from gays, blacks, the working poor, the middle class, Americans in general, etc. -- all the folks screwed over by the BFEE who think they are still on "the winning side" nonetheless.

[Snellius]

8. Groucho: "I don't want to be a member of a club

that would accept me as a member".

[otohara]

11. Notice How The Log Cabin Republican's Have Been Awfully Quite

at least I haven't seen or read any views from these "staunch" supporters of Jr. & his gang of homophobes.

[Paragon]

13. Simple.

Your sexuality - or any other trait, for that matter - does not make you immune to brainwashing.

[0007]

16. That's right, and if your super wealthy the closet is better than...

being called a dirty name.

[Deja Q]

17. Money

If you have and want money, you'll support the repukes - even if a good portion of them would prefer you die because of what you do on your own time.

[SharonAnn]

18. Still trying to win approval from someone who doesn't approve

ofyou.

Unresolved childhood issues.

Seriously, it's family dysfunction played out in the political arena. You see it everywhere when you know what it is. Neighborhood groups, businesses, political clubs, interrest groups. At first it's difficult to cope with, then you learn to have only "healthy interactions" with people and organizations. Sometimes that means you have to leave theorganization, others times you can learn to work within it - but that's very, very difficult.

[Scott Lee]

20. Thank you! THIS is a bizarre phenomenon...

And I've seen it in several groups.

For instance, in Utah, there are groups of Gay Mormons and Feminist Mormons, who knock themselves silly trying to win the approval of the LDS church. It's ponderous. I tell them both "WHY are you trying so hard to win the love of a group that does...not...want..you?" It's that simple. The LDS will never approve of nor embrace those two mindsets.

My advice to them is, if you love your church so much, give the finger to the ruling board and do your beliefs yourself.

I'd say the same to any Gay organization trying to win front chairs in the GOP. Look, the current GOP has a bedrock philosophy that despises your natures. Why in the world would you prostrate yourselves to these people so? If you share some "market ideas" with the GOP then support and practice them without trying to win the love of such a proven bunch of haters.

[msmcghee]

21. SharonAnn hit it . .

. . on the nose.

The more the GOP despises them - the more they need and seek their approval. The GOP represents their father - who is probably a conservative. By gaining even a little acceptence by the GOP - they get their father's approval as well.

My 2 cents.