A friend just passed this on to me:

[pnorman]

http://www.angelfire.com/creep/gwbush/remindus.html

It's as gut-grabbing as anything I've seen until now.

[Patriot_Spear]

1. See my thread on AOL...

They won't let the link be passed.

[Hamlette]

2. bump

moving, sad, disgusting.

How in the world did Bush get away with this?

We should fund showing this during the next election cycle. Much nicer than the "attacking Bush for attacking terrorists" the GOP recently put out.

How would one go about that? Raising money to put this on the air next summer?

[dusty64]

6. Not surprising.

I've heard they routinely block Democratic and progressive sites while allowing extreme rightwing filth.

[radfringe]

12. AOL link

I'm on AOL and it loaded, ran for me fine...

check your settings for parental controls and other such filters

[GreenPartyVoter]

3. The animations/videos

at http://bushflash.com just slay me in the same way. :^(

[Maple]

4. VERY

powerful.

[Cleita]

5. Kick

:kick:

[bpilgrim]

7. the neoCONs are marching us all right into dantes inferno...

and they think everything is going according to 'plan'

UBL's plan maybe...

more like china/russia/korea/saudi/iran/syria/old europe/etc's - with more joining daily - plan to 'contain' and 'deplete' US.

either way we will all lose...

the neoCONs plan depends on death, destruction, chaos and FEAR... as with other simular regimes throughout history they are sowing the seeds of their own destruction which everyoe else will feed upon.

:'(

will let them know they can mirror it here...
http://new.globalfreepress.com/submit.pl

peace

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56. bttt

[lumpy]

8. kick

Good reminder

[CatWoman]

9. WOW!!!

hard-hitting visual!!!!

[Terwilliger]

26. kick

:bounce:

[Carolina]

10. kick

Powerful! I was yelling f--king liars the whole time I watched.

I am passing this on far and wide and telling everyone I send it to to pass it on ... Treating it like a chain letter with no end.

It should be an ABB TV commercial. Wish Soros would buy an ad like this for display on all networks during the evening news!

[Scairp]

14. Are you kidding?

I don't believe that they would ever run something that inflammatory. They are too afraid of the right-wing who are very good at organizing boycotts and other pressure tactics when the truth begins to be told to the American people. They want us to remain ignorant so as to keep their pet chimp in office another four.

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53. The truth is never flammatory.!

But these lies are an insult to justice and a slap in the face to every American.

[Toucano]

15. I like the idea!

But can we put it on during "Friends", or a football game instead of the evening news? ;-)

[TennesseeWalker]

11. Makes me very sad.

I really thought there would be WMDs when this started. I didn't think Iraq was a threat, but I didn't think any administration would send us to war on so flimsy a case. Especially Colin Powell. I am seriously worried about the future of this country, for many reasons.

[politicat]

13. kick

:kick:

[Melinda]

19. Never about WMD - It's Global Domination - PNAC.

Familiarize yourself, share with your family and friends. Get an overview here. Watch PBS's Frontline documentary on PNAC here, and then read here and here (DU source material) and here and here: http://buddhistpeacegroup.org/pnac/

This war is just part of the Neo-con plan - it's all about US hegemony over the world, period, and always has been.

[never cry wolf]

16. Thanks for posting

I have added this to my mailing list.

[scottcsmith]

17. Very powerful

I don't know how the right-wingers justify this war. Because we "liberated" Iraq from a brutal dictator? Funny how that wasn't our goal when the missiles started flying.

[liberalmuse]

18. Very good film.

The Bush press conference at the end was classic. What an effing liar. His voice patterns alone say he's lying. What a great American atrocity.

[VOX]

20. Wow! Riveting, painful, and so very sad...

This is an outstanding presentation and a scathing indictment of the criminals who've been allowed to steal power and our freedom.

[loudnclear]

21. Awesome: just e-mailed it to a few networks.

Thanks for posting.

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:kick:

[gristy]

22. Well done.

It's impact will be significant next year, if broadcast. The only way WMD's are going to be found is if they are planted bye the US.

[OffWithTheirHeads]

23. I've been waiting for this

Bump. bump bump. This should be on T.V. from noe until the next selection.

[alarcojon]

24. Kick! Spread it far and wide...

:kick:

[supercrash]

25. OK

Where do I find a link of this video that I can save ?

The end is great

[rbnyc]

27. kick

:kick:

[Unknown Known]

28. Thank you! I'm sending it out to everyone I know!

Very powerful! No BS! Thank you again.

[opihimoimoi]

29. If the Dem Nominee and the DNC play this: Bush is TOAST

If it weren't for the boys taking hits, this would be funny. n

Damn,

Come, we spread this for mo people to see/hear

[RevolutionStartsNow]

30. Brilliantly done

I hope Soros spends his money on something as well done as this

[mrgorth]

31. If the nominee doesn't use this type of thing next year

we deserve to lose. Kick the fucker's ass.

[imax2268]

32. Let's all email this to some networks...

and keep emailing it to them until they get the picture...send it to your congressman or senators...send it to everyone you can...this is something worth spreading around...

:kick:

[CatWoman]

33. to help us along

http://www.mediawhoresonline.com/contactinfo.htm

[Bombero1956]

34. I sent the link

to this uber freeper type that hangs on a Nascar board I go to. He called me a drugged out hippy today because I told him that shrub's visit to Iraq was a 2 hour and 10 minute photo opp. I asked him if Archie Bunker was his hero because he sure talked like him.

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35. Absolutely outstanding!

A copy of this should be made and sent to every major church within reason. If I had the money this would go prime time on all the major networks.

Thank you for your find work.

[imax2268]

36. Check out what a freeper wrote...

in response to this when I posted it on a local newsgroups here in AZ...
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The reason we are there is to fight terrorism. You can try and smear our President all you want...bottom line, you can fight terrorism in Iraq or you can fight terrorism in the USA!!!!!

Our President has made the decision to be "proactive...not reactive."
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Sounds to me like someone is believing to much of what they hear from Faux News...

[prolesunited]

38. That is so utterly baseless

When the hell did we have Iraqi terrorists attacking the U.S. Based on that rationale, we should be occupying Saudi Arabia, NOT Iraq.

[CBHagman]

49. Chasing around Iraq won't stop the next Timothy McVeigh or...

...the next Mohamed Atta. Anyone who says otherwise is either self-deluding or employed by the Republican Party. Perhaps they're the same thing.

Seriously, they told us that they had to fight terrorism in Iraq, but now terrorists are supposedly ARRIVING in Iraq, plus Afghanistan is basically controlled by warlords and, to some extent, the Taliban. This is the change the Bush administration pointed out? It's incompetence, and pointing that out is not unpatriotic. Bush & Co. is marching us toward tragedy, and the sooner we reverse that trend, the better.

[dvddrone]

37. Sorry - nothing happened...

Any other way I can see this? It spent a long time loading, but then nothing ever ran. From what others have written in response, it sounds pretty damned fabulous. Thanks.

Elizabeth

[opihimoimoi]

39. this needs to be kicked

:kick:

Two kinds of Forces exist in Humanity.

One that worries about their future

the other relies on destiny.

Need I say more?

[buycitgo]

47. everybody bookmark this, then make sure......

it's kicked every day, so it doesn't go the way of almost ALL valuable threads

this is THE GREAT weakness of this particular thread format....no permanent threads to which one can refer, ala Salon's TT, Atlantic Forum (sux, tho, cause they create their own, self-serving ones), and the old TAP, before the freeps destroyed it.

[meow mix]

40. me too, cant see

page is unavailable =(

[LifeDuringWartime]

42. damn

itll be back up in a few hours, supposedly.

[Imalittleteapot]

41. Temporarily Unavailable

All I got was:
"The Angelfire site you are trying to reach has been temporarily suspended due to excessive bandwidth consumption. ":kick:

[veganwitch]

44. yeah same with me...

im at work so that might be an issue. (hahaha getting paid overtime to check DU!!)

[proud patriot]

46. Yeah that's what I got too

:shrug:

[Terwilliger]

43. I'll mirror this file if it fits on my webspace

if anyone has an actual copy of it

[ElsewheresDaughter]

45. jays'us kick

[buycitgo]

48. apologies if this is here already......hoists them on their own petards

it's been around for six months; posted all over the place, but could be a template for much of the vid---from the estimable "billmon"

Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction.
Dick Cheney
Speech to VFW National Convention
August 26, 2002

Right now, Iraq is expanding and improving facilities that were used for the production of biological weapons.
George W. Bush
Speech to UN General Assembly
September 12, 2002

If he declares he has none, then we will know that Saddam Hussein is once again misleading the world.
Ari Fleischer
Press Briefing
December 2, 2002

We know for a fact that there are weapons there.
Ari Fleischer
Press Briefing
January 9, 2003


Our intelligence officials estimate that Saddam Hussein had the materials to produce as much as 500 tons of sarin, mustard and VX nerve agent.
George W. Bush
State of the Union Address
January 28, 2003

We know that Saddam Hussein is determined to keep his weapons of mass destruction, is determined to make more.
Colin Powell
Remarks to UN Security Council
February 5, 2003

We have sources that tell us that Saddam Hussein recently authorized Iraqi field commanders to use chemical weapons -- the very weapons the dictator tells us he does not have.

George W. Bush
Radio Address
February 8, 2003

If Iraq had disarmed itself, gotten rid of its weapons of mass destruction over the past 12 years, or over the last several months since (UN Resolution) 1441 was enacted, we would not be facing the crisis that we now have before us . . . But the suggestion that we are doing this because we want to go to every country in the Middle East and rearrange all of its pieces is not correct.
Colin Powell
Interview with Radio France International
February 28, 2003

So has the strategic decision been made to disarm Iraq of its weapons of mass destruction by the leadership in Baghdad? . . . I think our judgment has to be clearly not.
Colin Powell
Remarks to UN Security Council
March 7, 2003

Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised.
George W. Bush
Address to the Nation
March 17, 2003

Well, there is no question that we have evidence and information that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction, biological and chemical particularly . . . all this will be made clear in the course of the operation, for whatever duration it takes.
Ari Fleisher
Press Briefing
March 21, 2003

There is no doubt that the regime of Saddam Hussein possesses weapons of mass destruction. And . . . as this operation continues, those weapons will be identified, found, along with the people who have produced them and who guard them.
Gen. Tommy Franks
Press Conference
March 22, 2003


I have no doubt we're going to find big stores of weapons of mass destruction.
Defense Policy Board member Kenneth Adelman
Washington Post, p. A27
March 23, 2003

One of our top objectives is to find and destroy the WMD. There are a number of sites.
Pentagon Spokeswoman Victoria Clark
Press Briefing
March 22, 2003

We know where they are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat.
Donald Rumsfeld
ABC Interview
March 30, 2003

Obviously the administration intends to publicize all the weapons of mass destruction U.S. forces find -- and there will be plenty.
Neocon scholar Robert Kagan
Washington Post op-ed
April 9, 2003

But make no mistake -- as I said earlier -- we have high confidence that they have weapons of mass destruction. That is what this war was about and it is about. And we have high confidence it will be found.
Ari Fleischer
Press Briefing
April 10, 2003


We are learning more as we interrogate or have discussions with Iraqi scientists and people within the Iraqi structure, that perhaps he destroyed some, perhaps he dispersed some. And so we will find them.
George W. Bush
NBC Interview
April 24, 2003

There are people who in large measure have information that we need . . . so that we can track down the weapons of mass destruction in that country.
Donald Rumsfeld
Press Briefing
April 25, 2003

We'll find them. It'll be a matter of time to do so.
George W. Bush
Remarks to Reporters
May 3, 2003

I'm absolutely sure that there are weapons of mass destruction there and the evidence will be forthcoming. We're just getting it just now.
Colin Powell
Remarks to Reporters
May 4, 2003

We never believed that we'd just tumble over weapons of mass destruction in that country.
Donald Rumsfeld
Fox News Interview
May 4, 2003


I'm not surprised if we begin to uncover the weapons program of Saddam Hussein -- because he had a weapons program.
George W. Bush
Remarks to Reporters
May 6, 2003

U.S. officials never expected that "we were going to open garages and find" weapons of mass destruction.
Condoleeza Rice
Reuters Interview
May 12, 2003

I just don't know whether it was all destroyed years ago -- I mean, there's no question that there were chemical weapons years ago -- whether they were destroyed right before the war, (or) whether they're still hidden.
Maj. Gen. David Petraeus, Commander 101st Airborne
Press Briefing
May 13, 2003

Before the war, there's no doubt in my mind that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, biological and chemical. I expected them to be found. I still expect them to be found.
Gen. Michael Hagee, Commandant of the Marine Corps
Interview with Reporters
May 21, 2003

Given time, given the number of prisoners now that we're interrogating, I'm confident that we're going to find weapons of mass destruction.
Gen. Richard Myers, Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff
NBC Today Show interview
May 26, 2003


They may have had time to destroy them, and I don't know the answer.
Donald Rumsfeld
Remarks to the Council on Foreign Relations
May 27, 2003

For bureaucratic reasons, we settled on one issue, weapons of mass destruction (as justification for invading Iraq) because it was the one reason everyone could agree on.
Paul Wolfowitz
Vanity Fair interview
May 28, 2003

It was a surprise to me then — it remains a surprise to me now — that we have not uncovered weapons, as you say, in some of the forward dispersal sites. Believe me, it's not for lack of trying. We've been to virtually every ammunition supply point between the Kuwaiti border and Baghdad, but they're simply not there.
Lt. Gen. James Conway, 1st Marine Expeditionary Force
Press Interview
May 30, 2003

Do I think we're going to find something? Yeah, I kind of do, because I think there's a lot of information out there."
Maj. Gen. Keith Dayton, Defense Intelligence Agency
Press Conference
May 30, 2003


Posted by billmon at May 29, 2003 03:20 AM | TrackBack

http://billmon.org.v.sabren.com/archives/000172.html

this doensn't even include the quotes discovered by Powell/Rice, etal that quotes them stating at the BEGINNING of the junta (early 2001) that they were assured that Saddam had no WMDs, was NO threat to us.

remember those? anybody have them handy? makes good counterpoint to the above, which, of course stops way back in May. must be lots more good ones to answer those

[opihimoimoi]

50. There is one very important clip missing

Its of Bush just after the war started.

In it he sez "We have found the WMD, Its in a truck" Later it was revealed to be truck used for weather baloons or some shit, but it was innocuous.

I remember watching him fidget hym and haw thru the damn interview and I just knew he was lying his ass off. The Blink rate was an astounding 57.6 per min

Come, we go surfing, waves up to 18 feet at North Shore.

[buycitgo]

54. don't tempt me, mon

got frequent flyer miles, but I'd drown on the way out to the break.

have sort of friend who taught college on Maui, played in band for about ten years....made me really want to get out there

and thanks for that reminder about the found weapons. I remember reading that while searching for stuff, but didn't connect the dots.

I tried getting this thing passed around, but it's about to die aborning; deserves at least some attention, maybe..... sooooooo

here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=799292
link to site of the quotes posted in #48

feel free

wahalo,

Lono

PS/dunno how I missed this:

http://www.ultramarathonworld.com/uw_archive/n09de01b.html

thoughts?

[Jacobin]

51. I can remember when 60 minutes would have aired something like this

My age is showing.

They blasted General Westmoreland for lying and hiding facts about VietRaq.

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52. btt

[Jim Sagle]

55. kick

[Jim Sagle]

58. Whap!