Why do Greens and Repukes use the same attacks?

[fujiyama]

I've heard some Greens use the same attacks against Gore as did the repukes. The only difference is that Greens do acknowledge the SC and the fraud that occured but they still always try to bash Gore by saying "he didn't win his home state". They never really think of WHY he lost TN, a republican trending, conservative state. Yet, they believe that Gore simply should have won it because he used to be a senator from there over 8 years before he ran for president.

Frankly I'm sick of it. I also despise Nader because he is a liar and a hypocrite. He sided with the republicans during the impeachment of Bill Clinton and never condemned ads funded by the GOP that attacked Gore on the environment.

So, here's a word to greens. Go ahead and attack pink tutu democrats like Fienstien and Daschle. I'll happilly join in and I hope that atleast in the case of Fienstien and others from moderate states, we can find a decent democratic replacement. But if you're going to attack Gore, then you better acknowledge that your man was part of the problem with that election, not the solution.

[Iverson]

1. why do Democrats and Republicans use loaded questions?

Either you use false dichotomies or else you don't.
yadda yadda yadda

[durutti]

2. Gore *is* a "pink tutu" Democrat.

His voting record was worse than Lieberman's. He had something like a 65 percent ADA rating.

He didn't say anything about GOP ads that attacked Gore on the environment? Good. Gore should've been attacked on the environment -- especially since he poses as an environmentalist.

The Tennesee excuse isn't good enough for you? Okay, then here are some more...

According to The Nation, around half of all Nader voters wouldn't have voted for Gore anyway. Many of them wouldn't have voted at all.

According to DLC exit polls, Bush would have still beaten Gore but one percentage point even if Nader hadn't run.

When the Black Caucus challenged Bush's election "victory", not one Senate Democrat supported them.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

4. How come Nader sat in on GOP strategy meetings before the 2000...

...election? How come the GOP funded Nader ads that appeared in the northwest in the weeks before the election took place?

As far as I'm concerned, by the Greens voting the way that they did in 2000, they helped create the fascist state we live in today.

You people weren't smart enough to figure out that you were being used like a two-dollar hooker by both the GOP and Nader.

[Terwilliger]

7. heh

:shrug: Now I'm disturbed about your feelings toward the Kennedy assassination...if you were interested in media lies, you'd know that the Greens and Nader represent a better idea and stick to those principles. People on this board and in certain partisan circles have some real anger flowing towards that group of people. Greens are further to he left, and you can't stand it. Well, if the big tent Dems love the center they can love the left too. Gavin Newsom, the slimy craphound rich kid is finding out that real liberals actually stand for something besides the continuation of the same powers that be that perpetuate the problems. Dianne Feinstein, I rest my case.

What is the commonality? Why do these people end up giving the pResident everything he wants? What are the values that separate Dems and Reps, and could you compare them to the values they share in common?

[tinanator]

9. when?

seems like that charge wouldnt be a novelty if it were true. please substantiate. thanks.

[durutti]

11. Huh?

Nader sat in on GOP strategy meetings? According to who?

The GOP didn't fund Nader ads. They funded ads that implied progressives should support Nader rather than Gore. It's a dirty tick, but Nader wasn't responsible for it, and he disavowed these attacks.

And while the U.S. has gotten more repressive under the Bush regime, and especially against 9/11, it's not nearly a fascist state. Such hyperbole damages the credibility of the left.

[jiacinto]

13. Yep

Right on the mark.

[Some Moran]

5. That's impossible....

Gore's endorsement of DINO Newsom over true progressive Gonzalez does make him a pink tutu, but Bush never even won with Nader's help.

Or did the GOP change the numbers on us?

[tinanator]

10. Bush didnt beat anyone

perhaps you mistyped? the exit polls sure as hell didnt show a Bush victory, why do you think they fell out of favor immediately?

[Scott Lee]

3. You could ask why statist Dems use the same repuke slogans

against Howard Dean as well.

Ooopsie! Looks like you got hoisted in your own petard, non?

[Terwilliger]

6. I'm sorry, you're all wet

If the man couldn't convince a majority of voters in the state he represented that he would be the better of the two candidates, how could he create a consensus?

I frankly don't know what the Dems are trying to do, but I don't know how anyone might call it "the solution." Solution?

By the way, have you seen this? Is This The Reason Bush Is Our President?

[UTUSN]

8. Hey, Fuj, I Have an Asbestos Room You Can Use for Awhile n/t

[jiacinto]

12. The TN argument is so self-serving

For one major reason: Nader was harassing Gore in states like WI, MN, IA, WA, and OR. He forced Gore to waste precious resources fighting for those states, when they should never have been in contention. That took precious money away from winning states like TN, FL, MO, AR, OH, LA, KY, WV, and NV.