Great news from Newsweek: Men want Bush out by 51-45%. He's toast in 2004!

[TruthIsAll]

You know the women voted heavily for Gore. And the men voted for Bush. But 2004 is different. The men have come around.

I love the smell of a landslide in the morning.

They are tired of his warmongering, job destroying, deficit creating, Carlyle/Halliburton cronying, terrorist avoiding, 9/11 warnings ignoring, WMD lying, Plame outing, Stock crashing, Enron supporting, UN baiting, Blair poodling, Goat reading, Photo oping, election stealing, fascist enabling, dictator creating, democracy destroying, power usurping, Diebold installing, ...

And that's just a start..

Newsweek Poll conducted by Princeton Survey Research Associates. Nov. 6-7, 2003. N=809 registered voters nationwide. MoE ± 4 (total sample).

"In general, would you like to see George W. Bush reelected to another term as president, or not?"

........Yes No Don'tKnow
ALL.... 44 50 6 << I smell a 54/46 romp. Even Diebold can't change it.

Men.....45 51 4 << vfw/military don't like the AWOL chicken hawk
Women...42 51 7 << want to control their bodies, don't draft the kids

Repub...86 10 4 << losing his moderate support
Dems....10 86 4 << need to attract some conservative Dems
Indep...40 53 7 << moving back, to the left.

[FubarFly]

1. That's great news!

Do you have a link?

;-)

[TruthIsAll]

8. http://pollingreport.com/wh04gen.htm

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[FubarFly]

9. Thanks.

:-)

[Jerseycoa]

10. Link

Newsweek Poll Nov 6-7

In the latest Newsweek Poll, Bush and Ret. Gen. Wesley Clark are in a statistical dead heat: 45 percent of registered voters say they'd vote for Clark or lean toward voting for Clark, compared to 48 percent who'd vote for Bush or lean toward Bush. Former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean and Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry both get 45 percent of the vote compared to 49 percent for Bush in each match-up. Connecticut Sen. Joe Lieberman trails Bush 44 percent v. 48 percent and Missouri Rep. Dick Gephardt loses to Bush 44 percent to 49 percent, the only leading Democrat to lose by more than the margin of error, the poll shows.

[jenk]

2. perfectly timed Thanksgiving visit, they knew this poll would be out soon

[salinen]

3. Goat reading?

What's goat reading?

[Maple]

4. I believe Bush

was reading a book about a goat when he heard the 911 news, and stayed to finish the book.

Anybody?

[Syrinx]

5. that is correct.

[Jerseycoa]

17. It was upside down I remember (eom)

[Old and In the Way]

21. Photoshopped, I think.

But he sat there for 15 minutes listening to the 2nd graders AFTER he got news of the 2nd WTC hit.

And my favorite 9/11 quote for the Dim One: "I saw the 1st plane hit and I thought, that's one bad pilot" Uttered not once, but twice that day.

I believe him.....impeach and try him for crimes against this nation.

[goforit]

6. Don't count your chickens DUrs!......Diabold will win in the end!!!!

And there is a possibility if W doesn't get what he wants
ther might be ......... MIHOP II.

[oasis]

7. His P.R. stunt today may soldify him with his base but the defectors

are looking elsewhere. All the Dems have to do is offer the ex-Bushites is a strong, serious,and sober alternative.

[audibledevil]

11. Its an old poll

Nov 6-7th was a while ago...

[FubarFly]

13. It's their most recent poll

And it's only been three weeks.

[Jerseycoa]

15. Newer Poll

Time/CNN Nov 18-19 MOE 2.5%

The poll showed that 47 percent were somewhat likely or very likely to vote to re-elect Bush and 48 percent were somewhat unlikely or very unlikely to do so.

The Democrat who would give Bush the toughest run for re-election would be retired Army Gen. Wesley Clark (news - web sites), according to the survey's results. Even so, Bush would defeat Clark 49 percent to 42 percent, according to the poll.

Bush would best former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean (news - web sites), the Democratic who has raised the most campaign money to challenge the president, by 59 percent to 39 percent of those polled.

The problem with this report, though, is Dean's numbers are probably a misprint. I haven't seen the polling data itself.

[Zynx]

24. Yeah. That was Yahoo quoting a Reuters story that got it wrong.

Bush led by only 12 points.

[MoonRiver]

25. "Old!" ROLFMAO!

And just whom do YOU plan to vote for in '04? :evilgrin:

[goforit]

12. It's about time MEN start growing up!!!!

??????????

[coloradodem2005]

14. Good News

I just hope that this photo op won't sway the momentum away, especially considering the pessimism that we have seen on the forum.

[MoonRiver]

29. I think the "photo op" will have nil to negative fallout for *

As the media continues to spin it day and night, the stunt is really beginning to smell like pure propaganda, especially with smirk's poll numbers crashing and support for HIS Iraq invasion eroding. I think US anger about war deaths is much deeper and more wide spread than we now see. Certainly the military vote is going downhill for the selected one. Did you get a look at the G.I standing next to him during the "visit"? A military coup, which some have talked about, may very well be fought in the ballot box.

[fizzana]

16. I'm starting to feel a little uneasy about 2004

The economy is starting to show signs of life and Rove is going to pull out all the stops between now and November 2004. The medicare vote could end up helping him despite a lot of scepticism and he will find a way to weasel out of Iraq in time for the elections.

In addition, he's going to fight as dirty as we can and whoever goes up against him is going to have to be tough and relentless.

[NJCher]

18. if you think the economy is going to rebound

You need to read Paul Krugman's latest book, The Great Unraveling. There isn't going to be an economic recovery. There will, however, be plenty of spin. But people don't vote on a wing and a promise. If there are no jobs and people's homes are going into foreclosure, there will be no second term for *.




Cher

[fabius]

19. Great!

Bush* can fly to Baghdad as many times as he wants. Bring it on! Just makes him look like a pandering idiot.

[rumguy]

20. to all you lurking freepers

read it and weep

[AndyTiedye]

22. Don't Worry about How the MEN Vote, Worry about the Machinez!

[UTUSN]

23. Kick for the Lurking Freepers

with thanks to rumguy for the phrase.

[AP]

26. Two comments about this:

I know a lot of white, middle class (hanging on by their fingernails) men who are pretty anxious about the economy. And the funny thing is that they have a sense of entitlement that is being threatened. They didn't mind it when it was the immigrant or women or the black man who had anxiety about living with dignity over the age of 55. But now that it's them, and they're like, "what the fuck? this isn't the world of guaranteed outcomes I expected."

So this Bushconomy is really fucking up their mindset.

My other comment, though, is that I don't think any of these men are going to come out of this with new-found empathy for any of the aforementioned traditionally oppressed demographics. These men really do want a world in which they're the privileged ones, so they're extremely susceptible to appeals to their sense of entitlement, and they are so ripe for the slightest Republican manouever to win them over, and bring them back into the fold.

Naturally, the tool they're most susceptible to is Iraq and the war on muslims and the idea that America should be able to take someone else's oil if it's going to make the US wealthier. That whole racist imperialist thing is what they want to get back into their lives on a personal level. Rather than connect up the fact that that's what's causing their problems, they're thinking they need more of what Bush is doing to Iraq in their personal lives.

So, bottom line, although these numbers look good today, Bush, I'm sure, has a plan to get them back to his side, and he has not yet begun to fight.

[milkyway]

28. Great comments.

From those I've known, this is exactly how a lot of middle class white guys feel. They really don't give a crap about anybody but themselves, and while they pay lipservice to equality and fairness, they have a sense of entitlement for themselves and nothing but contempt for those they consider beneath them.

[newyawker99]

33. Hi milkyway!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[TomNickell]

30. Yes, but...

Yeah, the White Guys wouldn't mind if * took the oil and came right home like he promised.

But screwing it up and leaving the troops there while crazies shoot at them and blow up the oil wells just isn't going to work with this crowd.

If the White Males start seeing * like we see him--as a lazy underachieving fake--he's truly toast.

[dusty64]

27. This IS astounding.

It also calls into question ALL other polls on chimp's electability. The male vote went overwhelmingly to rethugs in the last few elections and they will be trounced without it. As a guy who proudly voted against them I'm pleased to see members of my sex coming to their senses.

[TruthIsAll]

31. Yes...it's true. Did you have your Sunday morning TOAST yet? n/t

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[TruthIsAll]

32. Positive Kick. Liberals are Back! And we're gonna kick their ass! n/t

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