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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 05:28 PM
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Paedophilic Repugs, rape, whoring, attempted murder and the BFEE,
Edited on Fri Nov-28-03 05:30 PM by 9215
Just what have the Bushboys been up to?

We have Neil Bush admitting to whoring around the world and dead silence from his bible thumping, brethren of the Christian Right who, few years ago, were salivating in their hypocritical fury over Clinton's sex acts. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=789235
Then there is the strange death of an alleged rape victim of GW Bush. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=685925&mesg_id=685925
When you look up hypocrisy in the dictionary........

I guess you could write it off as a rumor but these rape allegations are echoes from a story during the selection 2000 of Bush fathering the child of a minor named Robin Lowman (now Robin Garner) in 1971. When this story of Garner was aired on CNN in October of 2000 with an interview of Larry Flynt by Robert Novak part of it was censored. When Flynt was questioned by Novak on the stories veracity Flynt blasted back: "THE HELL WE DON'T HAVE PROOF". Lowman refused to come forward after initially agreeing to when, she alleged, Jim Bath and some other intel types threatened her. In another strange twist Lowman married Jerry Garner an...... FBI agent.
jUMPIN Hazooz! I wonder how that was arranged?
http://pearly-abraham.tripod.com/htmls/bush-abortion.html

Then we have the anthrax death of National Enquirer photo-editor Bob Stevens who, coincidently, had published some pictures a few months before of obviously intoxicated Jenna Bush cavorting on the floor with another woman. What we didn't here about was the precedent for using anthrax to silence witnesses occured in 1991

http://www.assumption.edu/WebVAX/WWeekly/WW1Apr96Mena.html
Google: Anthrax+Mena

On the weekend of September 21, 1991, Arkansas State Police Investigator Russell Welch met with IRS Investigator Bill Duncan to write a report on their investigation of Mena drug smuggling and money laundering and send it to Iran-Contra prosecutor Lawrence Walsh. Investigator Welch had been ordered by Major Doug Stephens to meet with Duncan over the weekend in Arkansas Attorney General Winston Bryant's office. Welch had just opened a case concerning the theft of sexually explicit photographs which could have been used to blackmail state officials. On Friday, September 20, Welch went to one of the prisons near Pine Bluff and interviewed the person who had actually taken the photographs, a person whose best friend was very close to Barry Seal.......
.......A couple of days after Welch had been admitted to St. Edwards Mercy Hospital, his doctor was wheeling him to one of the labs for testing when she asked him if he was doing anything at work that was particularly dangerous. He told her that he had been a cop for about 15 years and that danger was probably inherent with the job description. She told Welch that they believed he had anthrax. She said the anthrax was the military kind that is used as an agent of biological warfare and that it was induced. Somebody had deliberately infected him. She added that they had many more test to run but they had already started treating him for anthrax.



Wonder what has happened to Lowman/Garner since 2000? Maybe check the obituary columns. Folks, I know someone from Texas on this message board who I respect that claimed to have been threatened by Bath--the Bin Laden family's business point man in the US as well as a known associate of the Mafia. His link to the Dupont's (the family behind the attempt on FDR's life in the 30's) via small plane aviation also is a testament to the kind of people he associates with. The Dupont's developed a Cessna capable of dropping bombs. This little bit of innovation was suppose to help the Contras fighting the Sandinista's. (Brewton: "The CIA, The Mafia, and George Bush" page219--20.) The Dupont's aviation company : "Atlantic aviation....largest business sales and service Dept. in the world...... Richard Dupont owns CIA connected Summit Aviation....... ". Who the hell knows what this has to do with all the small plane crashes that mysteriously kill large numbers of democrats or repugs out of favor with the Bushies as well as people "who know too much"? That the Dupont's were behind the FDR hit makes this all the more suspicious.

But there is more.

We have Poppy's hushed affair with a women named Jennifer Fitzgerald, who's death is still unexplained. Google it.
Now we hear rumors about GW Bush raping his daughter Jenna.
http://216.239.37.104/search?q=cache:c5dxbW5NctUJ:shades.dgrundy.com/+jenna+bush+psychologist%27s+examination+sodomy&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
This along with the mysterious death of Marvin Bush's house maid who managed to run herself over with a car a couple of months ago.

This all happening with the backdrop of the Republican pedophile sex slave ring network exposed in the "Franklin coverup" of the 80's. As the Franklin coverup was being discussed here at DU a little while back our Simian in Chief found it neccessary to include a statement in his UN speech about fighting the international sex slave trade. I wonder what substantitive things he has done fight what appears to be a Repug operation.

:wtf: is going on?

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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 05:30 PM
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1. Add Paul Wellstone to the list of potential * casualties...
Edited on Fri Nov-28-03 05:31 PM by mzmolly
WTF is right.

Oh and the anthrax letters to 'Dems' only?
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 10:46 AM
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19. ... and Mel Carnahan and JFK Jr.
... strange that people who can make the biggest difference for the progressive side meet untimely deaths.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 05:33 PM
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2. Pretty interesting.
Thanks for putting together the conncections. These deaths seem to have been swept under the rug rather conveniently.
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kalian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 05:35 PM
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3. Dubya raping Jenna...?
Hmmm...no it explains it why the gals are drunks. Drowning out the
memories...
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camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 05:37 PM
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4. Repubs are American Tories
In more ways than one apparently.
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wegottem Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 05:39 PM
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5. How dare you
imply that a rep. has even had sex except in the privicy of his own home, and in the missionary position. I don't beleive a word of these storys, maybe it was Clinton
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 07:39 PM
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8. Welcome to DU
Your sarcasm is noted and greatly appreciated. :toast:
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 09:01 PM
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10. No, Clinton's penis...
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7th_Sephiroth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 06:27 PM
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6. it fits, but
will they ever be prosecuted? no
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 06:31 PM
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7. One accusation is a rumor, two accusations.....
and you get people interested.
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 08:53 PM
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9. Interesting that the du Ponts come into the picture
I keep running into du Pont connections when I research the Bush family. George H.W. and Barbara Bush were close personal friends of Bayard Sharp, who was the son of Isabella Mathieu du Pont, sister of the three du Pont brothers who tried to overthrow FDR in the 1930's. When George lost the 1992 presidential election, he and Barbara retreated to Sharp's home in Florida while they recovered from the shock.

Bayard Sharp's daughter, Sarah, is married to William Stamps Farish III, a highly secretive millionaire who is our current ambassador to London and is also a close personal friend of the elder Bushes. Farish's grandfather, William Stamps Farish Sr., is known for having gotten into trouble in 1942 for continuing to do business with the Nazis after the start of World War II.

The elder Farish is also on record as having donated money in the 1930's to Clark's Crusaders, an anti-Roosevelt group with fascist sympathies sponsored by the du Ponts.

What I haven't been sure of is whether the du Ponts got respectable after the old fascist generation died or whether they are still up to monkey business. The connections you cite suggest that they might be.
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 10:23 PM
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13. FDR coup plotter Raskob funds faith based charities
This is on Dupont's attempt on Roosevelt: http://www.korpios.org/resurgent/Coup.htm
Raskob Foundation......involved in "faith based" initiatives.
Google Raskob+Bush http://www.nplc.org/pubdiscipleship/bulletins/bulletin1.htm

Jesus....Raskob built "Empire State Building"......Talk about irony. Built an "empire" and the building (phallic symbol) to go with it: http://www.philanthropyroundtable.org/magazines/1999-09/ednote.html

....Smack in the middle of building the Empire State Building, General Motors mogul John J. Raskob and his business partner Pierre Du Pont learned that the nearby Chrysler Building was being covertly fitted with a steel spire that would make it significantly taller than they had anticipated. The pair quickly added 16 floors and a 200-foot Art Deco mooring mast, ostensibly for use by dirigibles (this was in pre-Hindenburg days). John Raskob was like that; he liked to win.......
........Support of faith-based charities has always been the Raskob Foundation’s history and mission, but an increasing number of foundations and donors are discovering the promise of faith-based organizations. Indeed, faith-based charity is “hot.” Al Gore and George W. Bush vie with one another to express fealty to the idea; Pentecostal Minister and urban healer Eugene Rivers graces the cover of Newsweek; and social scientists pore over the early and encouraging returns from welfare-to-work programs.........



Further reading:
Sources:
Jonathon Vankin and John Whalen, The 60 Greatest Conspiracies of All Time (Secaucus, N.J.: Carol Publishing Group, 1997)
Jules Archer, The Plot to Seize the White House (New York: Hawthorne Books, 1973)
George Seldes, Even the Gods Can't Change History (Secaucus, N.J.: Lyle Stuart, Inc., 1976)
John Spivak, A Man in His Time (New York: Horizon Press, 1967)
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 12:10 PM
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21. The right wing switched gears and covered its tracks in the 40's
Raskob is someone I hadn't known about but will have to follow up on. According to my notes, du Pont owned a controlling share of General Motors, which they'd bought with their profits from being the major supplier of explosives to the Allies during World War I, so it makes sense that they and Raskob would have been working together.

So many of these stories about the BFEE seem to point towards a cluster of associated financial interests back in the 1930's that was centered on oil (particularly Standard Oil, run by Farish) but also included chemicals (du Pont), automobiles (General Motors), and suppliers to the oil industry (like Dresser Industries, of which Prescott Bush was a director.)

But the really slippery part is the ideology behind it. In the early and middle 30's, all these people seem to have been fascists or fascist sympathizers. But by the late 30's, classic fascism was getting harder to endorse in the US, and figures like Henry Ford (autos, again!) were starting to be seen as outside the boundaries of polite discourse. After the US entered World War II, overt support for Nazi Germany became a no-no.

At that point, the fascism tonality of the right-wing just evaporates. It isn't there, it's treated as though it never was there, and members of the younger generation like George H.W. Bush are able to present themselves as being nothing but open-minded American patriots.

And it isn't just that particular cluster of oil-ralated interests that managed this quick-change trick. Between about 1940 and 1945, the right-wing in general dropped its blatant anti-Semitism and Nazi sympathies and reconfigured itself into the style of all-American paleoconservatism that emerged after the war with Joe McCarthy and Strom Thurmond. Ever since then, it's been able to cover its tracks and deny that it was ever fascist at all.

But the connections between pre-war American fascism and post-war American conservatism are real and deep, and a study of these various Bush family entanglements makes them crystal clear. It's becoming obvious that the essential qualities of fascism are (1) a determination to keep the working class poor, ignorant, and regimented coupled with (2) an elitist justification for a two-tier society. And the BFEE clearly has its heart set on both.
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 12:21 PM
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22. this part is interesting
"And it isn't just that particular cluster of oil-ralated interests that managed this quick-change trick. Between about 1940 and 1945, the right-wing in general dropped its blatant anti-Semitism and Nazi sympathies and reconfigured itself into the style of all-American paleoconservatism that emerged after the war with Joe McCarthy and Strom Thurmond. Ever since then, it's been able to cover its tracks and deny that it was ever fascist at all."

Since America had just fought fascism, no one wanted to be on the side of anti-semites anymore. This led logically to the Civil Rights movement in the US. Nixon and Reagan keep the core racism and fascism alive with their coded appeals, the KKK morphed into the CCC.

Now, when they talk of rounding up ethnic groups and mass murdering them, it's just a "joke" while before they said straight out they were serious.
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 05:43 PM
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31. Good stuff, here some more on the FDR hit

This is on Dupont's attempt on Roosevelt Google Raskob+Dulles: http://www.korpios.org/resurgent/Coup.htm

THE BUSINESS PLOT TO OVERTHROW ROOSEVELT

In the summer of 1933, shortly after Roosevelt's "First 100 Days," America's richest businessmen were in a panic. It was clear that Roosevelt intended to conduct a massive redistribution of wealth from the rich to the poor. Roosevelt had to be stopped at all costs.

The answer was a military coup. It was to be secretly financed and organized by leading officers of the Morgan and Du Pont empires. This included some of America's richest and most famous names of the time:
Irenee Du Pont - Right-wing chemical industrialist and founder of the American Liberty League, the organization assigned to execute the plot.
Grayson Murphy - Director of Goodyear, Bethlehem Steel and a group of J.P. Morgan banks.
William Doyle - Former state commander of the American Legion and a central plotter of the coup.
John Davis - Former Democratic presidential candidate and a senior attorney for J.P. Morgan.
Al Smith - Roosevelt's bitter political foe from New York. Smith was a former governor of New York and a codirector of the American Liberty League.
John J. Raskob - A high-ranking Du Pont officer and a former chairman of the Democratic Party. In later decades, Raskob would become a "Knight of Malta," a Roman Catholic Religious Order with a high percentage of CIA spies, including CIA Directors William Casey, William Colby and John McCone.
Robert Clark - One of Wall Street's richest bankers and stockbrokers.
Gerald MacGuire - Bond salesman for Clark, and a former commander of the Connecticut American Legion. MacGuire was the key recruiter to General Butler.
The plotters attempted to recruit General Smedley Butler to lead the coup. They selected him because he was a war hero who was popular with the troops. The plotters felt his good reputation was important to make the troops feel confident that they were doing the right thing by overthrowing a democratically elected president. However, this was a mistake: Butler was popular with the troops because he identified with them. That is, he was a man of the people, not the elite. When the plotters approached General Butler with their proposal to lead the coup, he pretended to go along with the plan at first, secretly deciding to betray it to Congress at the right moment.

What the businessmen proposed was dramatic: they wanted General Butler to deliver an ultimatum to Roosevelt. Roosevelt would pretend to become sick and incapacitated from his polio, and allow a newly created cabinet officer, a "Secretary of General Affairs," to run things in his stead. The secretary, of course, would be carrying out the orders of Wall Street. If Roosevelt refused, then General Butler would force him out with an army of 500,000 war veterans from the American Legion. But MacGuire assured Butler the cover story would work:
"You know the American people will swallow that. We have got the newspapers. We will start a campaign that the President's health is failing. Everyone can tell that by looking at him, and the dumb American people will fall for it in a second…"
The businessmen also promised that money was no object: Clark told Butler that he would spend half his $60 million fortune to save the other half.

And what type of government would replace Roosevelt's New Deal? MacGuire was perfectly candid to Paul French, a reporter friend of General Butler's:
"We need a fascist government in this country… to save the nation from the communists who want to tear it down and wreck all that we have built in America. The only men who have the patriotism to do it are the soldiers, and Smedley Butler is the ideal leader. He could organize a million men overnight."
Indeed, it turns out that MacGuire travelled to Italy to study Mussolini's fascist state, and came away mightily impressed. He wrote glowing reports back to his boss, Robert Clark, suggesting that they implement the same thing.

If this sounds too fantastic to believe, we should remember that by 1933, the crimes of fascism were still mostly in the future, and its dangers were largely unknown, even to its supporters. But in the early days, many businessmen openly admired Mussolini because he had used a strong hand to deal with labor unions, put out social unrest, and get the economy working again, if only at the point of a gun. Americans today would be appalled to learn of the many famous millionaires back then who initially admired Hitler and Mussolini: Henry Ford, John D. Rockefeller, John and Allen Dulles (who, besides being millionaires, would later become Eisenhower's Secretary of State and CIA Director, respectively), and, of course, everyone on the above list. They disavowed Hitler and Mussolini only after their atrocities grew to indefensible levels.

The plot fell apart when Butler went public. The general revealed the details of the coup before the McCormack-Dickstein Committee, which would later become the notorious House Un-American Activities Committee. (In the 50s, this committee would destroy the lives of hundreds of innocent Americans with its communist witch hunts.) The Committee heard the testimony of Butler and French, but failed to call in any of the coup plotters for questioning, other than MacGuire. In fact, the Committee whitewashed the public version of its final report, deleting the names of powerful businessmen whose reputations they sought to protect. The most likely reason for this response is that Wall Street had undue influence in Congress also. Even more alarming, the elite-controlled media failed to pick up on the story, and even today the incident remains little known. The elite managed to spin the story as nothing more than the rumors and hearsay of Butler and French, even though Butler was a Quaker of unimpeachable honesty and integrity. Butler, appalled by the cover-up, went on national radio to denounce it, but with little success.

Butler was not vindicated until 1967, when journalist John Spivak uncovered the Committee's internal, secret report. It clearly confirmed Butler's story:
In the last few weeks of the committee's life it received evidence showing that certain persons had attempted to establish a fascist organization in this country…

There is no question that these attempts were discussed, were planned and might have been placed in execution if the financial backers deemed it expedient…

MacGuire denied allegations under oath, but your committee was able to verify all the pertinent statements made to General Butler, with the exception of the direct statement suggesting the creation of the organization. This, however, was corroborated in the correspondence of MacGuire with his principle, Robert Sterling Clark, of New York City, while MacGuire was abroad studying the various form of veterans' organizations of Fascist character.
Needless to say, the survival of America's democracy is not an automatic or sure thing. Americans need to remain vigilant against all enemies... both foreign and domestic.

Return to <Timeline.htm>

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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 11:22 AM
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20. They continued to do business they are fascists
make no mistake about their aim of globalism. They are traitors.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 09:05 PM
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11. More on Barry Seal...
The saga of Barry Seal
<http://www.sfbg.com/nessie/44.html>

"Barry Seal could have been the biggest drug smuggler in American history, though certain people say smuggling was only his front. Whoever he was, he died in a hail of bullets, with George Bush Sr.'s private telephone number in his pocket. His life, and the lives of his friends and coconspirators make a first-rate story – like a Fleming or a le Carre creation. But truth is far stranger than fiction."

...SNIP...

"As Hopsicker reveals, Seal joined David Ferrie's Civil Air Patrol unit as a teenager. And it was there that he learned more than how to handle his stick. Ferrie's CAP unit, you may recall, also included Lee Harvey Oswald."
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 09:13 PM
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12. Add Gary Caradori
Edited on Fri Nov-28-03 09:19 PM by Minstrel Boy
and his 12-year old son to the list.

Caradori had been retained by the Nebraska State Legislature to investigate the paedophile ring run out of the Franklin Credit Union, which implicated not only some of the most powerful figures in the state, but high officials in Washington as well.

They were flying home in Caradori's private plane, after a trip to Chicago for his son to see the 1990 allstar game and Gary to do a little investigating.

He'd been gathering testimony and evidence of a child prostitution ring which implicated senior Republicans in the state and in Washington, and operated with the knowledge of VP Bush (a number of the teens placed Bush at sex parties) and the protection of intelligence agencies (call boys being used to ensnare VIPS for the purposes of blackmail), all tied to a credit union which was laundering money for Iran/Contra, and had been founded by an abusive paedophile who'd sang the national anthem at the GOP national conventions in 1984 and 1988. (If you've never heard of the Franklin scandal, ask yourself why that is. Or the Craig Spence White House callboy ring exposed at the same time - Spence "suicided" shortly after the story broke, such as it did. Heard of that?)

Caradori called the committee chief from Chicago to say he had the smoking gun. "We've got them! There's no way they can get out of it now!" Returning with evidence, his small plane broke up midair. A farmer witnessed a flash of light and heard an explosion. The wreckage was examined at a military base and ruled an accident. His briefcase was never recovered.

Yet another tragic accident for those who cross the Bush crime family.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 10:57 PM
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14. Not even children are safe from these monsters...
Check out the archive at IndyMedia on the subject. The Washington Times, of all places, was-a-namin' names.

http://www.indybay.org/news/2003/02/1570946.php
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 11:14 PM
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16. What's been done in the name of "national security"
is more than criminal. It's positively diabolical.

Be sure to read "George Bush, The CIA, Mind Control & Child Abuse"
http://www.spiritone.com/~gdy52150/littleboys.html
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 11:22 PM
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17. Thanks for the heads-up, MB!
That article really got me steamed! I'm taking a quick break and I'll be back. Here's a bit from the article, which explains yet another SAUDI-BUSH connection:

EXCERPT...

More disgusting is the role the United States government plays in facilitating this global sex trade. Instead of banning the previously mentioned Dyncorp from further defense contracts, the regime of George W Bush rewards it in granting major contracts for the Iraqi war. Even more shameful is the wink and nod the state department grants the Saudis. The Arabian Peninsula has long been known to be purchasers of slaves. Mostly the slaves came from India or Africa however, with the advent of the oil wealth the Saudis have became more selective and are known as high-end buyers. The Saudi Arabian Government continues to refuse to sign the United Nation’s treaty on slavery and extradition treaties. There have been several incidents in the past where the media has reported a slave of a Saudi prince brought into the United States escaped. The State Department then intervenes and returns the escaped slave to the Saudi prince and the incident forgotten. The State Department exempts the Saudi princes from normal custom procedures. A child slave bought by a Saudi prince can be delivered to his plane and allowed to depart without the required passport for the child. One fortunate victim that became entangled in the Saudi sex ring was the former Miss USA Shannon Marketic. She had been lured to Saudi Arabia by what she believed was legitimate modeling work. Being a high profile case she was returned to the United States and filed suit. The former Miss USA lost her lawsuit as the State department granted immunity to her abductors.

Many of the pictures of the young children peering out from posters and milk cartons that have disappeared in the United States have fallen victim to this global sex trade. They indeed may have been lucky for there is a much more sinister side to child molestation. In fact, it is undoubtedly the most macabre and hideous aspect to evolve out of the United States use of Nazi scientists, the CIA’s Project MK-ULTRA. This grotesque project of ghastly experiments in mind control evolved out of earlier CIA projects in search for a truth serum. The roots for such a project date back to the wartime OSS search for a truth serum. During the war, the OSS began a search for a truth serum to use on captured U-boat prisoners. The experiments were limited and the only drug they found to produce desirable results was cannabis. According to author Anthony Cave Brown in the Last Hero, the experiments were limited to testing on one person. Additionally Dr. George Estabrooks of Colgate University carried out experiments paralleling the Nazis brain washing methods by drugs and hypnosis. Estabrooks connections with the army, CID, FBI and other agencies are still shrouded in secrecy. However, it seems that the doctor could not help but talk about his experiments occasionally and what is know of
his work comes from his loose tongue.

CONTINUED...

BTW: I used to write that the members of the Bush Organized Crime Family were mere stooges for a Secret Fascistic and Satanic Elite. Going by the lack of response, I figured that the phrase must have confused more people than it helped, so I go with the BFEE, even on first reference. It may be time to start calling these devils what they are.
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 12:26 PM
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23. and the US has been sending escaped women BACK to the Saudis
When a woman tries to escape from a wealthy Saudi, the US government policy is to SEND HER BACK - with her CHILDREN - and won't even give them asylum in our embassies. Wouldn't want to upset the Saudi royal family, the Bin Ladens, or their oil rich cronies.

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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 02:49 PM
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27. MK ULTRA is a crime against humanity
Dennis Kucinich mentioned "mind control" in the original text of The Space Preservation Act of 2001 HR 2977 but all the language about "exotic weapons" disappeared from the revision The Space Preservation Act of 2002.
http://www.raven1.net/govptron.htm
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 05:16 PM
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28. Another small plane crash????????/
Another one for bushbodycount.com

Nice catch.
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 11:06 PM
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15. People don't want to know
They just want to take their Zoloft and go to their happy place in the suburbs of their minds...
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 05:20 PM
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29. Prozac=Eli Lilly=Poppy Bush
Poppy Bush got on the board of directors of Eli Lilly after he was booted from the CIA. It was Dan Qualyes father that got him the directorship. Eli Lilly is the company that synthezid LSD in the 50's underwritten by the CIA.

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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 12:09 AM
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18. "What do you and your father talk about? "Pussy."
A revealing exchange from the 1988 GOP Convention:

David Fink, Hartford Courant: When you're talking about politics, what do you and your father talk about?

George W Bush: Pussy.

What a family.
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Unknown Known Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 01:04 PM
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24. Tony Blair protects elite paedophile ring
This story was written up in some of the British papers, but this article summarizes it pretty well re: the Dunblane killings of 16 children by paedophile Thomas Hamilton and the cover-up of his connections to British elite paedophile ring. This story (among so many others) has been hushed up big time.

http://www.propagandamatrix.com/blair_protection.html

Also, here's another story regarding Portugal's recent elite paedophile ring scandal -

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,963032,00.html

I have no doubt, the satanic cult of bushco in his off-the-wall statement at the UN was a threat to all the elitist paedophiles throughout the world to expose them if they didn't comply and go along with their rape of Iraq

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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 02:13 PM
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26. agree
nt
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 01:45 PM
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25. The Bush/Jenna/psychologist link doesn't work for me...
Whassup with that??

Anybody have a better link??

:kick:
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 05:33 PM
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30. Here's a link
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 10:59 AM
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32. Like whoring dim-witted father. Like whoring dim-witted son.
Remember the OTHER Jennifer? Seems Poppy has some 'splainin' to do to the lovely Babs, although Larry King never gets around to asking...

Why The Bushes Will Never Hire Linda Tripp

John LeBoutillier
Monday, Feb. 12, 2001

EXCERPT...

Back in the first Bush presidency Linda Tripp was stationed down the hall from the Oval Office. She somehow caught wind on a long known but well-kept Washington secret: President George Bush had a "special" relationship with a staffer named Jennifer Fitzgerald.

In fact, Bush had been "very close" to this Jennifer beginning in Peking back in the days when Bush was our delegate to Red China. So close, in fact, that Barbara Bush had come home to D.C. in a state of "depression."

Years later, during Bush's vice presidency, Jennifer Fitzgerald held a key staff post – and this caused a virtual revolt among his other loyal staffers. They hated the haughty, pushy and arrogant woman who clearly had more "access" to Bush than they did.

Vice President Bush went to Geneva in 1984 during the arms talks and arranged through our negotiators to stay in a government guest house – with Jennifer Fitzgerald. Our ambassador was aghast!

CONTINUED ... ironically from NewsMax, with lots o' names for GOOGLE fun!

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/2/12/55616.shtml
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