What election?!

[peabody71]

The “war on terror” and American democracy—some ominous warnings
By Patrick Martin
27 November 2003

Three commentaries published recently in the US media, all by well-connected observers of the US military, have suggested that a major new terrorist attack within the United States could disrupt the 2004 elections and even result in military intervention on the streets of America as well as the suspension of the Constitution.

On Friday, November 21, the right-wing web news service Newsmax.com published an account of the interview given by General Tommy Franks to the lifestyle magazine Cigar Aficionado.

Franks said that a terrorist attack employing a weapon of mass destruction and causing mass casualties, either in the United States or against an ally, would likely result in replacing the American Constitution with a military government.

Read more:
http://wsws.org/articles/2003/nov2003/warn-n27.shtml

[WilliamPitt]

1. Edit this for length or it'll get locked

You can only post three or four paragraphs because of copyright rules. Get in and delete the bottom two-thirds of this, or the mods will lock it.

[imax2268]

2. What was the name of that movie...?

With Denzel Washington and Annette Benning...?

Where marshall law was implimented in New York...Bruce Willis was the army commander...?

Kind of sounds like maybe someone has been watching that movie way to much...

[peabody71]

3. 'The Seige', I believe.

[Catch22Dem]

6. Yes

It was a pretty good movie too

[WilliamPitt]

7. It was 'The Siege'

[imax2268]

9. I think you are right...

I can see it now...innocent arab-americans herded into make shift stadium prison's and a armored personell carrier at every major intersection...

and * sitting proudly with his "military costume" on barking out orders...

I'll keep my fingers crossed that it doesn't happen that way...

[peabody71]

12. Didn't this basically already happen after 911?

I sense a much worse senario. Try rounding up active DUers.

[neverforget]

4. Under Siege. I fear that is our future. Not from "terrorists" but from

the dictator in the White House.

[peabody71]

8. I think it is bigger than Bush but basically true.

David Rockefeller comes to mind.

[Catch22Dem]

10. No

Under Siege was the one with Steven Segal where he's the Navy cook who saves the world. The Siege: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0133952/ was the one with Washington, Benning, and Willis.

[RBHam]

5. When will people wake up?

(snip)
More important than his argument—essentially restating the Democratic appeal for a more coordinated international approach to terrorism—is what Rothkopf reveals about the expectations in official Washington and corporate America. At one point he notes: “Recently, I co-chaired a meeting hosted by CNBC of more than 200 senior business and government executives, many of whom are specialists in security and terrorism related issues. Almost three-quarters of them said it was likely the United States would see a major terrorist strike before the end of 2004. A similar number predicted that the assault would be greater than those of 9/11 and might well involve weapons of mass destruction. It was the sense of the group that such an attack was likely to generate additional support for President Bush.”

This is a remarkable assertion. Rothkopf describes this elite audience as “serious people, not prone to hysteria or panic—military officers, policymakers, scientists, researchers and others who have studied such issues for a long time.” The vast majority of them, he says, believe that a terrorist attack worse than September 11—that is, killing thousands or even tens of thousands of Americans—will take place in the course of the 2004 election campaign, and that this attack will benefit the political fortunes of George W. Bush.

http://wsws.org/articles/2003/nov2003/warn-n27.shtml

[Mz Pip]

11. Sounds like a threat.

Or a promise. Vote for Bush or there will be tanks in the streets.

Bush the true American hero is the one who can protect us from another attack and keep our Constitution safe.

These dudes are scary.

MzPip
:dem:

[Beam Me Up]

17. Yep: Preconditioning and Desensitization

Get us all used to the idea before it happens.

[RBHam]

13. The Re-Education Camps await.

I can't believe the lack of response to this most important subject. The end of American democracy is one Black Ops false flag operation away, and still the majority of even those who are educated and aware remain in denial.

This is not a TINFOIL fantasy people! They are PLANNING to take complete control!

And it won't be the "terrorists" who suffer!

According to Herr Franks, the fault lies with the American "population". I.E.- All you pinko, left wing, minority lovin', weak-spined, immoral, treasonous dissenters.

Wake up!

EXCERPT:
Frank remains a fervent supporter of the Bush administration, describing Bush as “a very thoughtful man,” and declaring, “Probably we’ll think of him in years to come as an American hero.”

But according to Franks, it may be under the administration of this “hero” that “the Western world, the free world, loses what it cherishes most, and that is freedom and liberty we’ve seen for a couple of hundred years in this grand experiment that we call democracy.”

The retired general placed the responsibility for this possible turn to dictatorship on “our population,” and was silent on what role the military leadership or the Bush administration would play in its establishment. The American media has apparently failed to ask him anything about it since.

http://wsws.org/articles/2003/nov2003/warn-n27.shtml

[murielm99]

22. I already pointed out this article, a few posts back,

but no one paid attention.

[SheilaT]

14. Imagine how easy it would be

to say that there is "credible" evidence of a major strike planned against the U.S., and not allowing any but "essential" people to leave home for about 48 to 72 hours, starting, oh, let's say November 1st next year.

Election? What election?

[evil_orange_cat]

15. if they want a war, they can have one...

;)

America... even conservatives... would not put up with a police state. It would result in revolution...

[politicat]

20. Wrong. Go watch Pleasantville. Listen to the audio commentary from the

writer/director.

Fascism is reasonable to the majority. It's the minority that's in trouble. Fascism says "We'll all get along just fine if we treat each other civilly and respectfully, but WE get to define what's civil and respectful. And that means (to use examples from Pleasantville) No Dave Brubeck, No Miles Davis, No Banned Books, No Premarital Sex, No Sex!, No unapproved Art, No Color. "

Pleasantville is a great allegory of the Liberal/conservative battle.

Politicat (who is writing a series of articles on selling the message using liberal movies and TV shows to people who otherwise can't or don't know how to relate to the message.)

[evil_orange_cat]

23. you do have a point... but still...

As much as I'd like to be in the tinfoil hat club, I still don't think the majority would go along with such a scheme. Too many conservatives are hardcore limited government believers. Bush may be a radical, but his party base isn't... and Bush isn't the orator or ruthless political mind that Hitler was...

[Media_Lies_Daily]

25. You seem to be forgetting that the NeoCons currently have the...

...support of the military as well as all state and local law enforcement agencies. Those that comtrol the guns, control the agenda.

[maggrwaggr]

16. I've been predicting this for months and months

I figure especially if Bush's poll numbers are down and it looks like he won't win in a landslide he'll pull some stunt like this and there won't be an election.

I predict it will be some sort of "close call" where he is the hero and saves us all from certain destruction.

[Beam Me Up]

19. I predict 'California'...

...for political reasons, most likely SF Bay area. Something that will enable them to make Schwarzenegger look 'presidential'--much the way Giuliani did in NY on 9.11

Hey, I live here.

One of the things that went down the 'memory hole': Not long after 9.11 a Bay tug boat captain reported almost running into an inflatable raft with a man in it wearing scuba gear. This was near the Bay Bridge around 4 AM. He called the coast guard et.al., and they investigated but, to my knowledge, they never found who it was. My thinking is, where there is one 'frog man' there are bound to be more--under water. A detonation in that location could take out a lot of people depending on the type used.

If it happens I may be dead. These bastards are EVIL.

[Deja Q]

18. Yawn

Many on DU have suspected this for a lot longer period of time.

Though it's eyebrow raising that a big attack against an ALLY would cause the US government to switch to military regime... :wtf:

LIHOP II: The Wrath of Anti-christ*

[burning bush]

21. I don't want to be dismissive...but-

the freepers were saying the same thing about Clinton pre-1996. They were sure he would declare martial law and postpone/eliminate the election.

I have to believe that there is no way that BushCo can pull off a whopper like that YET. It would be so transparent. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think so.

What I really fear is if Bush manages to win in 2004. He'll be his lame duckness in 2008. Cheney will not run, he's too old and his heart is bad.

Powell could make a go, or Jeb. Probably Jeb. This period, when the exchange of power takes place, will be very volatile. I suggest we avoid it by takin' care of bidness in 2004, don't you agree?

[Media_Lies_Daily]

24. You're kidding, right? You're talking about the same group that...

...engineered the Coup of 2000, aren't you? The same group that:

* Rammed the Patriot Act through Congress?

* Illegally attacked both Afghanistan and Iraq?

* Engineered the recent dismantling of Medicare?

How "transparent" were THOSE actions?