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raysr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 11:00 PM
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DK
There is only one candidate that represents the democratic party and progressive thought and that is DK. It boils down to who do you think is the most electable. DK is the best man for the job. No one can honestly argue against that. Whether he's the most electable is another story. He is the "anti Bush" that we need to maybe undo all the damage that Bush has done. I would vote for whoever gets the nod, but in reality, DK is the man. Ckark is a Republican, plain and simple. He may be the only one who can beat Bush. I don't know. Dean is a fraud. Kerry would be, except for DK,the one who would come the closest to represent the progessive aimed voters. Flame on. It's reality as I see it today.
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pruner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 11:02 PM
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1. 5… 4… 3… 2… 1…
prepare for lockdown.
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 11:10 PM
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4. Jackboots in lockstep?
or reinforcements?

dp
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pruner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 11:12 PM
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6. the title of this thread violates several DU rules…
the idiotic content is of no concern to me.
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 11:28 PM
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11. title is fine, just a candidate's initials
usually capped. Poster made own views known in thread, in minimum sentences.

obviously you are more drawn to respond to 'idiotic content'.
don't you have a dean thread to play in elsewhere?

dp
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 11:28 PM
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12. please explain
which rules does the title violate?
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 11:37 PM
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17. pruner principle
sub-class, article 3 amendment to the peter principle.
dp
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 11:05 PM
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2. I've held back on any criticisms of Kucinich because he is such a...
Edited on Sat Nov-29-03 11:08 PM by wyldwolf
... non-player and is really running a vanity campaign.

But I could really burst your bubble.

Aside from that, and as I've challenged others to do so many times before (without any takers I might add), PROVE Clark is a republican.

Or, simply, hush.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 11:22 PM
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9. Corporatist is more accurate than Republican
From another thread:
I posted this on another GD thread- NO response.
For me, the question is NOT whether Clark is Repub
or a Dem, it is more about his corporatist status.

Realities surrounding Clark-
STILL unquestioned by ANY media source.
and yet readily available for verification to serious researchers-

As far as looking into Clark's buddy boy circle...
Take a look at Anthony Huang and a company
called Rexton Media. Take a look at their customer list.
http://www.rextonmedia.com
Next have a look at Entrust Technologies, the company
Clark just stepped down from...
http://www.entrust.com (Kind of sounds like Enron, doesn't it?)
Now go look at the insider trader reports here:
Look up symbol ENTU and go to insider info-
(take note of NORTEL connection there too.)
http://www.finance.yahoo.com/
And who is Nortel? FRANK CARLUCCI president until
very recently...who is Nortel in partnership with?
ENTRUST!
What contracts are they picking up?
GOVERNMENT! DARPA! HALLIBURTON!
And the best and most recent?
NORTHROP Grunnam...BIG ole contract for Entrust and Homeland Security
an in relationship to the lovely Patriot Act. (NEW PATRIOTISM ring a bell?)
The usual suspects.

Wesley Clark is neither a Dem or a Repub-
He is a corporatist, as are Bush and and his Cabal.
Also, note Entrust and Nortel both have Canada companies,
why does that matter? Because that is where Poppy Bush's
buddies, the Brown Harriman bankers hide.
(Entrust funded by Carlucci/ Nortel Network etc...)
Anthony Huang and Clark former Board (Sirva) are also heavily into
the business of outsourcing and corporate tax minimalizing
with off shore banking.
They specialize in how to save the corporations money
by outsourcing jobs.
Nice huh?
Especially if you look closely at Clarks pitch
for a civilian service program...
Answers?
Explanations?
I remain open, but so far I have had NO
reasonable responses from Clark supporters about these concerns and
corporate connections as far as Clark is concerned.
I think they are reasonable concerns and warrant further
discernment and investigation.
Flame away...
But the facts remain, AND they are not personal, but concrete facts
about a candidate who says one thing but is CLEARLY
enmeshed with the corporate elite who have seized our government
and country.
BHN

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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 11:27 PM
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10. So?... Now, tell me your candidate and give me 24 hours...
Edited on Sat Nov-29-03 11:32 PM by wyldwolf
I'll tie him/her to just as many sinister-sounding associations.

Your big list really means nothing except to the far left fringe.

How about a link to the previous DU post you mentioned?
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 11:06 PM
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3. I like most of the candidates, but
You are right. Special K is the best.

"In a democracy where already half the people don't vote and where the last presidential election was decided by the Supreme Court, we cannot tolerate flawed voting equipment or intimidation of those who point out the flaws. Diebold backing down from its intimidation campaign is a positive step. An open and honest examination of the flaws in electronic voting will lead us to only one possible conclusion: electronic voting machines are dangerous to democracy because there is no way of ensuring their accuracy. We need to have a voter-verified paper trial for every election so that any errors and irregularities caused by the voting machines can be discovered."
-Dennis Kucinich-



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evil_orange_cat Donating Member (910 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 11:11 PM
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5. LOL... question...
sorry, I found your post funny...

a few questions for you...

1. How is Dean a fraud?

2. How is Kerry the next closest "progressive" candidate when he wants to keep part of Bush's regressive tax cuts?

3. Do you believe DK when he says he's never smoked pot?

IMO, DK would be a repeat of Jimmy Carter. I agree with some of Dk's politics, but I don't think he is qualified to be president. And I don't like the idea of packing up and leaving Iraq, as DK is proposing, without even stabilizing the country.
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 11:31 PM
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13. I don't think DK has ever smoked
is it important for you to think that he did? :shrug:

By the way, so, even after we've illegal invaded and occupied Iraq, now that we're there, we're the only ones to restore the country to stability? The UN would probably do a lot better job.
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raysr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 11:36 PM
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14. DK
Dean was the first to tap into the anger of the democratic party after the stolen election. He has no plan, he just has anger. John Kerry is a presidential canditate as far as looks, and the fact he protested the Viet war. He got duped like many on the IWR. Who gives a fuck if anyone has ever smoked pot? Dubya did coke got a Dui and entered Canada illegally for the Trade shit in Quebec. Can't cross the border w/o a Magistrates Permit for your particular crime. Clark and every one in the Military to achive the level of success he has didn't do it by being socially sensitive. I don't dislike Clark. But to say the tiger has changed his stripes is ridiculous. Has Clark EVER said he'd dump his buddy "Rummy"? He looks goood, he's what the fearful need. But he ain't no PROGRESSIVE! All I'm saying is that Dubya must go,but Dennis Kucinich has it all down on paper, does anyone else?
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 11:13 PM
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7. DK - representin' the democratic wing of the Demo. Party.
DK knows what time it is!

peace

out

KG
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 11:20 PM
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8. hardly...
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 11:37 PM
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15. Locking.
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poskonig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 11:37 PM
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16. What do you want me to do?
You're merely perceiving. So what?
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