We Need to Get The Queen Bees - Fareed Zakaria

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We Need to Get The Queen Bees
'When America and Europe are divided, when Japan is hesitant,' Lee cautions, 'the extremists are emboldened'
By Fareed Zakaria

Richard Nixon once remarked that had Singapore's Lee Kuan Yew lived in a different country in a different time, he would have achieved the status of a major historical figure—a Churchill, Disraeli or Gladstone. Lee recently turned 80, having for 45 years carefully observed international trends and maneuvered to keep his city-state secure and prosperous. While in Singapore last week, I asked him what he made of the European-American divide so evident in London. "The Europeans underestimate the problem of Al Qaeda-style terrorism," he said. "They think that the United States is exaggerating the threat. They compare it to their own many experiences with terror—the IRA, the Red Brigade, the Baader-Meinhof, ETA. But they are wrong."

He went on: "Al Qaeda-style terrorism is new and unique because it is global. An event in Morocco can excite the passions of extremist groups in Indonesia. There is a shared fanatical zealousness among these different extremists around the world. Many Europeans think they can finesse the problem, that if they don't upset Muslim countries and treat Muslims well, the terrorists won't target them. But look at Southeast Asia. Muslims have prospered here. But still, Muslim terrorism and militancy have infected them." Lee pointed out that Singapore and Thailand have both been targeted in recent years, though neither has mistreated its Muslim populations.

"The Americans, however, make the mistake of seeking largely a military solution. You must use force. But force will only deal with the tip of the problem. In killing the terrorists, you will only kill the worker bees. The queen bees are the preachers, who teach a deviant form of Islam in schools and Islamic centers, who capture and twist the minds of the young." Lee pointed to the trial of Amrozi bin Nurhasyim, one of the plotters of the Bali bombing, sentenced to death by an Indonesian court. On hearing the sentence he said, "I'll be happy to die a martyr. After me there will be a million Amrozis."
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[Malva Zebrina]

1. Oh well

Bush is gonna get the Queen bees--dead or alive. He said so! Yes he did! He said so.! He just is a little slow and stupid about it.

Wahhabism looks and feels like a last dying grasp to save one's religious beliefs to me--a desperation and also a defense against westernization and imperialism. --one is as bad as the other, imo. Note the famous Couter line--"We should bomb them all, kill their leaders, and convert them to Christianity."

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[JailBush]

4. Are you kidding me? You're delusional!

Do you really think it's our place to "Westernize" the Middle East? Shall we give them a new religion, like right-wing Christianity, which kills with cruise missiles rather than improvised explosives?

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7. I never said we should do it alone

but we need to empower and stand by moderate muslim leaders.

You're response is so rediculous. Replace it with right wing christianity? What is it with you people. Everything is black and white.

[moz4prez]

5. surely you're joking!

do you expect the middle east to accept and assimilate the ideals of the enlightenment with open arms, when those very ideals threaten to erase their histories, their cultures, and have long since been discredited by those bastions of fairness and reason - the west? no one intends to christianize the muslim world, just to *loosen* islam's *stranglehold* on the populace. and they'll be plenty successful, too. already, young arab men want to live like Americans, to discuss their varied, exciting sex lives in public, to know all the comforts that we do, as well as to drink without fear of consequences. we didn't even have to bother stationing troops in iraq when our particular brand of influence would have devoured islam and left the people about as spiritually and morally bankrupt as most westerners.

[KoKo]

8. "young Arab men want to discuss their sexual lives in PUBLIC?? What?

"young arab men want to live like Americans, to discuss their varied, exciting sex lives in public,"

Is this why we are fighting in Afghanistan and Iraq? Is this why we "prop up Saudi Arabia?"

What are you saying here???

[izzie]

3. She sounds as bad as they do.

I do think Ann is a put on to make money but their are people who belive as she speaks and they are as bad as the Arab who kills.They balong together but not with me in between.

[realFedUp]

6. Fareed knows nothing about bees. n/t

[uhhuh]

9. Of course

We should all look to Singapore as the authority on how treat people.

http://web.amnesty.org/report2003/Sgp-summary-eng