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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 03:01 PM
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10,000 Wounded Troops -- 10,000

so how many arms, legs, hands, feet, eyes, burnt flesh, body pieces and sanity is that, being left behind in a foreign country?

10,000 american families put in turmoil

tears enough to fill a lake

anger enough to stop the bloody hands bushgang?


http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2003/11/30/long_road_ahead_for_many_wounded_troops/

this is just one of the articles on the wounded at www.buzzflash.com
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 03:04 PM
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1. It was under 2,000...
and now it's 10,000? Not that those figures surprise me. I'm surprised our government allowed them to get out, is all. That's a lot of human suffering for a war that should never have happened in the first place. It makes me sick!
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 03:07 PM
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2. a wk. ago they were saying 9,000 and

I read in one of the articles that for every 1 death there are 10 woundings.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 03:07 PM
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3. The article doesn't mention 10,000 troops.
I'm confused... where did you get the 10,000 number, donsu?

From the Boston Globe link:

As of Friday, the Pentagon reported 434 soldiers had died in Operation Iraqi Freedom, 298 of those in hostile attacks. But for every soldier killed in hostile action, nearly 10 have been wounded, according to official figures. Hundreds of the 2,094 wounded since the start of the conflict end up at the Landstuhl Regional Medical Center, the largest American hospital outside the United States.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 03:18 PM
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4. Here another mention of the 10,000 number
From LBN today:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=102

article link:
http://www.centredaily.com/mld/centredaily/news/7368173.htm


Toll on U.S. troops in Iraq grows as wounded rolls approach 10,000
ORLANDO, Fla. - (KRT) - Nearly 10,000 U.S. troops have been killed, wounded, injured or become ill enough to require evacuation from Iraq since the war began, the equivalent of almost one Army division, according to the Pentagon.

Unlike the more than 2,800 American fighting men and women logged by the Defense Department as killed and wounded by weapons in Iraq, the numbers of injured and sick have been more difficult to track, leading critics to accuse the military of under-reporting casualty numbers.

Military officials deny they are fudging the numbers. But the latest figures show that 9,675 U.S. troops have been killed, wounded, injured such as in accidents, or become sick enough to require airlifting out of Iraq.
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 03:24 PM
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5. thank you htuttle
nt
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 12:58 AM
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6. LOTs of head injuries among the wounded. The new helmet's crap...
Brain injuries high among Iraq casualties

By Spc. Chuck Wagner

WASHINGTON (Army News Service, Nov. 24, 2003) -- U.S. casualties in Iraq may be suffering a greater share of brain injuries than in previous wars, causing concern among military doctors.

Doctors with the Defense and Veterans Brain Injury Center at Walter Reed Army Medical Center say early casualty assessments suggest service members are returning with a wide range of brain injuries — from mild concussions to coma or death — in larger percentages than the military's rule of thumb.

This suspected rise in an injury notoriously debilitating to victims and hard for doctors to diagnose may result from the terrorists' explosive arsenal and vulnerabilities in current U.S. combat gear, according to experts.

"It's always been well known there are going to be brain injuries in combat," said Dr. Louis French, a neuropsychologist and assistant director for clinical services at the brain center. "About 20 percent is usually what's talked about. So far, what we've seen suggests a higher percentage."

Among 105 casualties assessed between June and October, doctors discovered about two-thirds, or 67 percent, to have brain injuries, according to Dr. Laurie Ryan, another neuropsychologist and the assistant director for research.

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http://www4.army.mil/ocpa/read.php?story_id_key=5445


Technology hasn't made helmets bulletproof

11/27/03
David Wood
Newhouse News Service

EXCERPT...

Finding ways to reduce the number of deaths due to head wounds is a high priority, said Air Force Lt. Col. Linda Lawrence, commandant of the school of medicine, Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences in Bethesda, Md.

In Iraq, 48 percent of wounded GIs were hit in the legs, and 28 percent in the arms, while spine injuries afflicted 7 percent, abdomen and pelvis wounds 9.5 percent, and face and eye injuries 9 percent, she said. These wounds, although more numerous than penetrating head wounds, usually were not fatal.

Head wounds, in contrast, were suffered by 21 percent of those injured in battle but resulted in 31 percent of combat deaths.

The new version of the Kevlar helmet weighs 8 ounces less than the 3½-pound current version and provides some additional ballistic protection.

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http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/news/1069936258100340.xml

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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 08:22 AM
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7. I wonder what a poll
of mainstream U.S. would show of peoples knowledge of this.

I'll bet that most Americans don't know about these numbers, but could repeat verbatim what Seinfeld said, or the island where the latest Survivor series is being played.

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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 06:05 PM
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8. A kick up...
... May the People Know the Truth about Bush's War.
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