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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 08:23 PM
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Damn. Remember those miners who got rescued last year?
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 08:29 PM
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1. can you post a few paragraphs, bro! i don't feel like signing up there.
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Heddi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 08:34 PM
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3. here
It's about a rescure of the Penn. Coalminers who recently committed suicide.

I know there is a 4-paragraph limit, but these are really long sentences and look like more than it is!! honest!

June 9 was a beautiful spring day in western Pennsylvania. It had been raining much of the week, but that Monday morning the clouds parted, revealing a blue Appalachian sky. Bob Long had plans -- finish remodeling the kitchen, work in the garden, maybe even paint the flower box in the front yard that he'd promised his wife he'd get around to soon. Not that Long was lacking free time. For the past three years, Long, 37, had worked as a surveyor for CME Engineering nearby in Somerset. But several months earlier, he tore his rotator cuff while pounding a surveying stake, and the injury required surgery.

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Now Long was eager to get back to work -- back to the routines of ordinary life, which he had been struggling to recapture ever since the events of last summer when, for a brief, hallucinatory moment, he was a hero.

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And it was Bob Long who, answering a call in the middle of the night, had raced to the scene and used his satellite surveying instruments to pinpoint the spot to drill the crucial first air hole. Had Long miscalculated, the result might well have been nine dead miners

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In the aftermath, Long discovered that the life of a hero is not easy. After Disney cut him in on a book-and-movie deal for the miners' story, he found himself shunned by fellow rescuers, as well as by the miners

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What exactly he did during the next few hours is not known. The only thing Michelle is certain of is that when she arrived home with the kids at 5:30 p.m., Long was asleep on the couch. ''The kids woke him up,'' Michelle recalls. ''It was time to go to their soccer game. When he got up, he started yelling because he couldn't find any clean socks.'' Long's father, a former police officer, says that a toxicology report would later show that his blood-alcohol level was .26, more than twice the legal driving limit in Pennsylvania. There was no argument, no big fight, Michelle says. Just the missing socks. Before she was sure what was happening, Long walked out to his Dodge pickup in the driveway, pulled out his 9-millimeter semiautomatic Glock pistol and put it to his head. Michelle followed him outside; the kids remained inside. ''I kept saying to him: 'Please, don't do this. Please, don't do this.' I begged him.''

Her voice falls to a barely audible whisper. ''Then he just did it.




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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 08:34 PM
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2. Here
Who's a Hero Now?
By JEFF GOODELL

June 9 was a beautiful spring day in western Pennsylvania. It had been raining much of the week, but that Monday morning the clouds parted, revealing a blue Appalachian sky. Bob Long had plans -- finish remodeling the kitchen, work in the garden, maybe even paint the flower box in the front yard that he'd promised his wife he'd get around to soon. Not that Long was lacking free time. For the past three years, Long, 37, had worked as a surveyor for CME Engineering nearby in Somerset. But several months earlier, he tore his rotator cuff while pounding a surveying stake, and the injury required surgery. He had been off work for about eight weeks, attending physical therapy sessions and catching up on odd jobs around the house. Now Long was eager to get back to work -- back to the routines of ordinary life, which he had been struggling to recapture ever since the events of last summer when, for a brief, hallucinatory moment, he was a hero.


A year ago, on July 24, when nine miners in nearby Quecreek cut into an old mine that was flooded with millions of gallons of water, the attention of the nation was transfixed. Miners, of course, have been getting trapped underground for hundreds of years. But this particular melodrama, coming less than a year after 9/11 and so close to the crash site of Flight 93, was as much about redemption and faith as it was about rescuing nine men. And it was Bob Long who, answering a call in the middle of the night, had raced to the scene and used his satellite surveying instruments to pinpoint the spot to drill the crucial first air hole. Had Long miscalculated, the result might well have been nine dead miners.

In the aftermath, Long discovered that the life of a hero is not easy. After Disney cut him in on a book-and-movie deal for the miners' story, he found himself shunned by fellow rescuers, as well as by the miners. Long, who could be hot-tempered, had not helped himself by openly criticizing the miners in the media. Still, by June, it seemed that the hard feelings had passed, and Long was back to his confident, talkative self.

That Monday morning, Long got up early to help his wife, Michelle, with breakfast and load their three kids -- Lauren, 8, Lindsay, 6, and Luke, 1 -- into their Chevy TrailBlazer. As usual, Michelle planned to drop them off at her mother's house on her way to work at a local lawyer's office. ''As we got ready to leave, Bob was talking and joking around,'' Michelle recalls. ''It was just like any other day.''

Long went to a physical-therapy session for his shoulder and then stopped by his mother-in-law's house to visit the kids. Around noon, he stopped in for a beer at the Jenner Rod and Gun Club, an old coal-miner's hangout he frequented, where he ran into a friend in the construction business who needed to cut some rebar. Long told him he had a grinder that would do the job, so the two of them spent the next few hours up at Long's house, cutting steel rods in his garage. ''We had a few beers, talked, just normal stuff,'' his friend recalls. ''Bob was his usual happy self. We talked about our families, how much we loved our kids. He took me inside and showed me around his house -- he was doing some remodeling and was proud of it. I left at about 3:30. The last thing Bob said to me was, 'I'm going to go plant some cabbage.' ''

Long never made it out to the garden. What exactly he did during the next few hours is not known. The only thing Michelle is certain of is that when she arrived home with the kids at 5:30 p.m., Long was asleep on the couch. ''The kids woke him up,'' Michelle recalls. ''It was time to go to their soccer game. When he got up, he started yelling because he couldn't find any clean socks.'' Long's father, a former police officer, says that a toxicology report would later show that his blood-alcohol level was .26, more than twice the legal driving limit in Pennsylvania. There was no argument, no big fight, Michelle says. Just the missing socks. Before she was sure what was happening, Long walked out to his Dodge pickup in the driveway, pulled out his 9-millimeter semiautomatic Glock pistol and put it to his head. Michelle followed him outside; the kids remained inside. ''I kept saying to him: 'Please, don't do this. Please, don't do this.' I begged him.''

Her voice falls to a barely audible whisper. ''Then he just did it.''

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Yentatelaventa Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 09:29 PM
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6. pulled out his 9-millimeter semiautomatic Glock pistol
I wonder if more strict gun control would have prevented this unnecessary death?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 10:53 PM
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-03 12:02 AM
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12. Removed by poster
Edited on Sat Jul-26-03 12:25 AM by blondeatlast
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-03 12:34 AM
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15. Possibly
or someone that did not read the story.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-03 12:22 AM
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14. No, it would not have.
It's very hard to have strict gun control against things like this, because I'm guessing Mr. Long took good care of his weapon until the moment he shot himself in the head. Since there's no magical force that can suddenly whisk one's weapon away the moment they decide to do harm, the only way to prevent that sort of thing would be banning guns, and that would be both stupid and unconstitutional.

To get back to the story, this is very sad and tragic indeed. It seems that Long was not the sole rescuer, but he did provide the information that led to their rescue - meaning he was the man most likely to be viewed as a hero in the media and on film.

Very sad, indeed. I remember that being one of the few times I didn't get pissed at the media for blowing a story out of proportion, since at the time it had a happy ending.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 08:34 PM
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4. The story just keeps on going. It's too bad it couldn't have
been worked out equitably for everyone involved so there wouldn't be any jealousy and it would be fair to all.

I seem to remember bush trying to get a photo op with that miraculous rescue. I could be wrong...he's gotten so many.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 08:36 PM
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5. A sad story
It brought back memories all the friends I lost to suicide.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 09:38 PM
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7. Damn. Goodell is so right, that story came along at just the right time.
Edited on Fri Jul-25-03 09:40 PM by blondeatlast
Now it seems like eons ago.

I've lived in small towns; the kind wwhere you at least know everyone a little bit. It's a different world, really, and I'm not cut out for it, I know.

What a sad thing that something that brought the nation back together for one more brief shining moment has decayed into this. Who to blame? Not the miners, not the rescuers, I can't even blame the media in this case. Or maybe it is all of those and then some.

So much to happen to hardworking, blue-collar folks in just a year.

May God continue bless each and every one of them. I'm just in tears . . .. So tragic.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 10:57 PM
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9. very sad
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 11:13 PM
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10. the worst disease in the world doesn't kill you
it makes you kill yourself.
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osaMABUSh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 11:21 PM
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11. I remember Bush came to Pgh for a photo op with the miners
Last year* spent a few minutes with the miners at a fire hall in Pittsburgh for the photo op. I recall the miners weren't too thrilled with him. After that * came downtown where he was greeted by a pack of protestors and a Union rally against *'s health care policy. He spent an hour trying to help the GOP guy running for Gov. of Pa. (who got trounced by Dem. Ed Rendell in the election).

By the way Bush will be at the Pgh Convention Center this Monday - I'm sure he will be received be much worse than last year.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-03 12:03 AM
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13. Nothing has been done about mining safety
There's strong evidence that the coal company, at the very least, should have known the old mine was flooded and that the maps they were using were unreliable. Simple precautions, like drilling exploratory holes to locate the exact border of the flooded mine, might have easily prevented the breakthrough. ''Other coal operators do it all the time,'' says Joseph Main, head of mine safety for the United Mine Workers of America. ''Why didn't they do it at Quecreek? Because it costs money, probably.'' Ultimately, it may be up to a jury to decide whether what happened at Quecreek was an accident or the result of a reckless operation. But for Mayhugh and the other miners involved in the lawsuit, the more difficult question may be whether holding the coal company's feet to the fire on this is worth the risk of reliving the experience over and over again, until it not only defines their lives, it consumes them as well.

The lawsuit would be much harder to justify if state and federal investigations inspired more confidence. But seven months after releasing a preliminary draft, the Pennsylvania Department of Environmental Protection has still not released the final results of its investigation, and neither has the federal Mining Safety and Health Administration. A state grand jury has been selected to look into possible criminal charges, but no results have been announced.

Efforts to reform mining laws are also stalled. Of the 48 mine-safety recommendations made by a ''blue ribbon'' panel appointed by Mark Schweiker, then the governor, not one has yet been enacted. ''Despite all the talk, nothing has changed,'' says Main, the head of the miners' union. ''And unfortunately, without pressure and public scrutiny that will result from the lawsuit, probably nothing will.''

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/27/magazine/27MINERS.html
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-03 01:19 PM
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16. There is SO much that this article touches upon
extremely well written and covers every angle. The author should get an award for this story. I can't even put a finger on what strikes me the most:

-The way in which a heroic life-affirming event turned into a tragic death over jealousy, greed and competing interests
-the indifference of ordinary workaday people to the dangers faced by the miners that might possibly have been avoided had the company acted on nformation they appear to have known about the mine
-the fact that people now blame the survivors for potentially costing them jobs rather than focusing on the fact that the survivors might possibly be saving other lives by pursuing the negligence of the corporation
-the manner in which the media attention and competition for it drove a wedge through everyone involved
-the manner in which the media and public moves on while the lives of some of those affected freezes and remains focused on that incident

Just a rich, rich story. Again, I hope the author gets recognized for his thoughtful coverage.

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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-03 01:35 PM
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17. Drawing an analogy to the Jessica Lynch story
Look at how the media wanted to make movies and books about Jessica, who was never a POW but a patient in a civilian hospital where she was cared by the civilian Iraqi staff.

Compare the way the media treated Lynch to the way it has ignored the real POWs of the 507th Maintenance Support Company. Any films or book offers from them? Or are they too ugly, and not white enough to merit a TV movie?

What if Lori Piestewa had blue eyes and blond hair? Would we have Meg Ryan playing her fighting her attackers to the death?

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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-03 01:41 PM
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18. excellent synopsis of the issues raised.
and how 'typical americans' tend to view things these days. *sigh* Somewhere Rush is smiling and laughing his greedy ass off.
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