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7th_Sephiroth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 03:48 AM
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A question about compromiseing my morals
should i join the republican party and tow the party line for a few years until i can get into a seat of power or atleast alot of acess, slowly leaking out things, makeing recordings ect.
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moz4prez Donating Member (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 03:51 AM
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1. oooooooooooo
Edited on Thu Dec-04-03 03:51 AM by moz4prez
crafty.

but supposing you're corrupted in the process? what then?

edit: something must be done about that unfortunate avatar
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7th_Sephiroth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 03:54 AM
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3. there is nothing wich can corrupt me
though i would go against all my morals (and probably get alot of money doing it) i am able to see above money any extra that i have will go to DU and other fine democratic organizations, the only set back is that i am only of the age of 19 and i cannot take any heavy political seats (whats the minimum age for congress?)
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7th_Sephiroth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 04:01 AM
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7. i am un corruptable because
i see people as people, not as sheep, i detest the repugs, and this would be hell of alot of stress, but i see the evil and the danger, and i will work from within the system to stop it
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moz4prez Donating Member (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 05:23 AM
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8. waitaminit
you're going to run as a REPUBLICAN, you're NINETEEN and you want to play GOLF with some of the larger hunks of cheese, and in order to offset corruption by assocation, you will make fabulous donations to DU and a bunch of other democratic organizations / thinktanks????

not only is this impractical, but you're HUMAN.

and they DO have a way of keeping track of where the money's going, you know. either you or your career would be dead in the water. probably the latter, since you're a kid!
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7th_Sephiroth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 02:10 PM
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15. the golf thing was a figure of speach
as for the money i have ways of not leaving a papter trail, i have offshore accounts. Its something i'm forming but the planis solid. my political career? Feh it doesent really matter, if i can go in and do even a lil damage it will be worth it
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neuvocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 03:53 AM
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2. Assuming you pull it off...
just think of all those powerful republicans and businessmen who wouldn't just kill you, they'd REALLY kill you just to be mean.
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7th_Sephiroth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 03:57 AM
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5. *lol*
i get in and i will have videos and/or audio of every racist remark, every dirty deal and every crime that they commit, i will leak information while playing golf with jeb bush, if they try anything it gets released, if they act suspicious, it gets released, all the news channels will gobble it up, they may tow the Republican line, but ratings is thier #1 master
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 03:54 AM
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4. I would worry about your immortal soul.
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7th_Sephiroth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 03:58 AM
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6. *shrug*
the weight i carry will be suplimented by my deeds of exposing the corrupt
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 12:42 PM
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14. which you will join as soon as they offer you a seat at the table
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kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 05:38 AM
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9. are you sure you are not referring to ethics, morality is a private matter
ethics is interpersonal.

but if you want to sup with the devil, best get a long spoon.
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DUreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 10:00 AM
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10. More people your age should do this, hedge our bets
It could be a long process
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 11:43 AM
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11. Don't drop the soap
You are basically setting yourself up to go to prison on any number of charges.
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 11:45 AM
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12. Ahhh, you mean like Zell Miller
only in reverse?
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ldoolin Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 12:40 PM
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13. y'know
I did something like that once in my younger, more naive days.

Went to the Republican presidential caucus in my state, and because I was the only one from my precinct who showed up, wound up a delegate to the county Republican convention. Here's what I learned:

1. The selection of delegates to the state convention was completely stacked. A card was handed out beforehand by the official country Republican party organization listing a "Republican unity slate" of delegates, and there was *no* debate on any of the delegates or any other literature indicating where any of the candidates for state delegates stood, if any of them were "liberal Republicans" and so on. The only opposition to the unity slate appeared to be from the Buchanan delegation. I had to ask one of them and was handed a list that the Buchananites had been surrepetitiously distributing of delegates they supported.

I wound up voting for the two or three delegate candidates who appeared on *neither* the Buchanan nor the "unity slate" lists. It was my little attempt at monkeywrenching the process, but it probably had zero effect.

Most of the county delegates dutifully voted for all of the "unity slate" candidates.

2. There was a "liberal Republican" candidate for governor running that year, against several hardboiled conservative Repukes in the primary. All of the candidates for governor spoke at the county convention. The one liberal in the race got a very lukewarm reception. The right wing whacko that most of the delegates apparently favored brought down the house. I had to excuse myself to go puke.

3. Antitax, sagebrush rebellion, anti-abortion, and militia nuts were all there with tables collecting signatures for ballot initiatives. I politely declined to sign any of them. There were a handful of delegates at the county convention wearing pro-militia t-shirts. Operation Rescue had a table. Somebody had a table selling garbage like the "Clinton Chronicles" video and Rush Limburger's books.

4. The whole time the only thought that kept popping in my mind was, "what am I doing here?"

Lesson learned: The Repukes party machinery is completely controlled by the right wing. This was sad, because this was in a state that just two or three decades ago had a strong tradition of moderate and liberal Republicans. If there were any other liberals at the convention, they were just as much in the closet about it as I was, and in any case I'd say our collective effect on the process was zero. Any hope I had that the old progressive Republican tradition of the Robert LaFollette, William Lemke, and George Norris era was still alive was completely squashed. There is one place for progressives today, and that is the Democratic Party.

But...if ya wanna try some creative infiltration and monkeywrenching of your own, knock yourself out.
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