Was John Titor right?

[evil_orange_cat]

www.johntitor.com

If you guys aren't familiar with John Titor, go to this site and read about him. John Titor was a self-proclaimed time-traveler who warned about civil war in 2004 and 2005... ending in WW3 in 2015.

Written before 9-11 in 2000 and early 2001, Titor explains that Americans will have to soon choose between security and liberty. And that the "Civil War" will start as small isolated incidents of government suppressing dissent.

I don't believe the John Titor story as a Duke University physicist made his story about time travel sink like the Titanic... even Stephen Hawking laughed at it. :D

But this hoaxer does raise interesting questions about the future. How farfetched are his predictions about our government becoming a police state?

[Renew Deal]

1. Well maybe I will get a chance to shoot some liberuls in the head.

That comment is courtesy of FR. Some of them are hoping for this.

[evil_orange_cat]

2. heh, but Titor says we win... :cool:

If it takes a war to get rid of social darwinism and a police state, then so be it...

buy guns...

[Must_B_Free]

16. look at dat , ma...

got me a libruhl...

[Syrinx]

3. Have you heard of Ron Mallett?

He's a professor of physics at the University of Connecticut that is actually working on a time machine! I saw a show about him last night on the Learning Channel. It was interesting.

http://old.hartfordadvocate.com/articles/timetravel.html

[Gin]

4. neanderthal bush is in his own time warp machine....and dragging

all of us with him..... backwards...

[Minstrel Boy]

5. best ... time travel story ... ever!

If he'd appeared after 9/11, I'd have been tempted to yawn and ask "What took you so long?" That he wrote this before 9/11 may demonstrate a Hari Seldon-like grasp of future history.

I think he said about 2004, that virtually each month would bring a Waco-like event that steadily gets worse. Myself, I'm pretty pessimistic about the new year, and every year to follow. Titor may yet be proven a prophet, even if he's disproven to be a time traveller.

[nyrnyr1994]

14. Hari Seldon

Haven't read Foundation in yrs, but i remember now the theory about the prediction of history, what was it called? Psychohistory? Fascinating idea nonetheless.

[Skidmore]

6. Sigh---That was a downright depressing read...

fact or fiction...it raises some very frightening, but realistic, possibilities.

This is a particularly salient quote from it though:

"During this Congress, the leaders discovered and decided that coming up with a new and better form of government was nearly impossible. The original Constitution itself was not the problem it was the ignorance of the people that lived under it."

[Minstrel Boy]

7. time travel or no time travel,

much of his advice is sound: if you can, get out of the cities; live close to your source of food; get a bicycle; know how to use a gun.

And even if you think it's nothing but a silly hoax, in the event a civil war begins next year, it won't kill you to "avoid Washington DC at 3:45 AM on March 12, 2015."

:tinfoilhat:

[tom_paine]

8. Well, considering the same history keeps repeating

Many of the things he says (minus the explosions and details with dates) are mostly historical inferences that many smart people saw coming before 9-11 and even some before 12-12-2000 (the day the American Republic began to die).

Interesting, though...

[truth2power]

9. I think it's a literary device.

The time traveler part, that is.

So Titor, being pretty intuitive about the direction things are going, decides to cast himself as someone from the future.

Looked at this way, the reader doesn't have to struggle over the time travel issue. Just look at the predictions and be warned.

[tom_paine]

11. I would tend to agree, t2p

I won't 100% discount it, but I will 99.9999999% discount it.

And people have been writing about the eventual Civil War 2 in Amerika for quite some time...

http://www.worldfreeinternet.net/archive/arc19.htm

[evil_orange_cat]

12. interesting, did you write this?

I've only read a little so far, but I'm glued to it... :)

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[sleipnir]

15. Horseshit...

Simple...

His predictions could be made by anyone...if they take a few afternoons to get a specific backstory/history set up.

And what's up with the Back to the Future car time machine???

I enjoy reading this stuff, but really, this is loony tunes. Nice, but elaborate prank.

[jayfish]

17. Like This

Story

-SNIP-
The case has drawn widespread interest from local media outlets, not to mention radio talk shows from Arizona to Texas to Washington.

It also has attracted the scrutiny of patriot and anti-government groups, including a Colorado-based organization that threatens to send 600 armed members to protect Barkley.

Denver resident Rick Stanley, founder of the Second American Revolution Militia Mutual Defense Pact, vowed Barkley will not stand alone.
-SNIP-

I posted about this story in Sept. but haven't paid much attention to it since.

Discussion

Jay

[TexasMexican]

18. I read this a while back.

I think its bullshit, but its definately interesting bullshit and has some sound advice.

[M0rpheus]

19. I never know...

What to think about this suff, but I did find this snippet interesting...

"Are you really surprised to find out that Iraq has nukes now or is that just BS to whip everyone up into accepting the next war? "

Now wheres my hat?

:tinfoilhat: Much better! :)