you know that George McGovern was a WWII veteran

[CTLawGuy]

he flew 35 combat missions in Europe in WWII and won the Distinguished Flying Cross.

www.mcgovernlibrary.com/george.html



I guess then Dean couldn't be compared to him anymore.

How can a guy who served in the military lose 49/50 states???? That makes no sense!

[Octafish]

1. It makes sense when the media are BFEE O&O.

The people were dummied up to the idea that Vietnam was a "Just Cause." Heard that Orwellian phrase before? It's what Poppy called his Panama invasion to reclaim the canal and bury his CIA drug-partner Manuel Noriega.

Most Democrats understood the Vietnam war was a scam in 1972. Most didn't then didn't know JFK had plans to withdraw all troops by 1965, and LBJ reversed them days after the assassination. That was secret even from the Pentagon Papers files.

So, who've the media helped since then? The war party. Dem or pug, always the war party. And Democratic war heroes, including the great Democratic PEACE candidates? They get negative press in 1972 and today, near zero press.

[CTLawGuy]

3. then how are Kerry and Clark

safe from a 49 state loss?? They seem to base it on Vietnam Service and "foriegn policy experience." But I showed with McGovern that military experience doesnt help you.

[GOPFighter]

2. Doncha' know...

...that only conservatives can be real American war heroes because they are fighting to defend God, the flag, and gun rights. Liberals who fight in wars are there only because they're too dumb or too lazy to get a job as a civilian.

:grr:

[Another Bill C.]

4. In 1972

being against the Vietnam war was very unpopular. Common belief was that only Hippies were against the war and that came from too much pot, sex, and communal living. There were a lot of "America, love it or leave it" bumper stickers around, too.

[ldoolin]

5. Nixon

Nixon had just done a bunch of things right before the election that made him very popular and placated many moderates and liberals:

Pulling most of the ground troops out of Vietnam (all were out by Jan 73)
Suspending the draft
Opening up China
Launching the Environmental Protection Agency

All the Democratic candidates were victims of smear campaigns and dirty tricks by the Nixon regime too. McGovern if I remember correctly had to switch VP candidates after someone in the Nixon camp leaked that his first VP choice had undergone treatment for mental illness. Offices were broken into, files stolen, etc. When the Watergate scandal broke during the election nobody cared, at first, because Nixon was too popular. McGovern went into the race severely weakened, with little grassroots momentum, and his campaign never recovered (and that is why I don't buy the McGovern-Dean comparisons by the way.)

I'm expecting the Bush regime to pull the very same stunts. He's just as crooked and power-hungry as Nixon was, maybe worse.

[leesa]

6. Military...military...military..Look around you, you think diplomatic

skills might be a tad more useful than military history?