dobak
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Mon Dec-08-03 11:59 PM
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Didn't Gore endorse both Gray Davis and Gavin Newsom? |
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Tue Dec-09-03 12:01 AM
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1. Didn't Bill Clinton endorse Gray Davis? |
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Edited on Tue Dec-09-03 12:01 AM by ProudToBeLiberal
Also isn't bill Clinton going to have a joint appearance with newson? Whats your point?
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dobak
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Tue Dec-09-03 12:04 AM
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3. my point is obvious.... |
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Edited on Tue Dec-09-03 12:06 AM by dobak
1 - Gore endorsed Davis and many Dems voted against him 2 - Gore endorsed Newsom and many Dems look like they will vote against him
An endorsement from Al Gore doesn't mean sh*t to alot of Democrats.
I like the man. But, I think for myself, and so do most Dems.
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Tue Dec-09-03 12:57 AM
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21. When did Gore's endorsement of Dean instruct you on who to vote for? |
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this shit is really crazy
what happened when Clinton endorses Dean? suicide?
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Tue Dec-09-03 01:14 AM
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24. I think for my self as well, and I like what Gore has to say. |
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He is a man that you can trust. He has proven it time and time again. never have I seen such courage and honor as when he faced the gauntlet of flashing bulbs to give his concession speech. I still well up with tears when I think of it, It was equivalent to a crucifixion.
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Tue Dec-09-03 12:01 AM
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2. I don't know about Newsom, but Clinton definitely supported Gray |
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Tue Dec-09-03 12:06 AM
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4. Some of you Clark people need to.... |
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put a lid on it. What the hell is the matter with you? Dean's a good dem and a damn fine candidate. You'd think he was a Joe Lieberman or a Zell Miller with the respect he gets from some here. He is not the anti-christ or the anti-dem, so give it a rest.
I'm going on record as saying I LIKE CLARK, but some of his supporters are starting to make it difficult. Thank god, I'm mature enough to know it's not the General that turns me off, just some of his misguided supporters.
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Tue Dec-09-03 12:08 AM
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5. I did not criticize Dean... |
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I just feel that all this "It's over", "We Won" talk is far too premature.
The only thing the Gore endorsement does is draw media attention for a day or two.
That is about it.
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Tue Dec-09-03 02:44 AM
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25. of course Clark supporters have been saying "it's over" since the day |
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... when Clark finally announced.
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Tue Dec-09-03 12:20 AM
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11. Clinton was in SF with Newsroom today ........ PLUS ........... |
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You make a fair point regarding the previous Gore endorsements that Clinton also made. I would argue that those were local elections and local voters are more in tuned and familiar with the local candidates so an outside person i.e. Gore/Clinton coming in doesn’t hold much weight. But on a National level such Blockbuster endorsements do matter especially since Joe and Jane public have not checked in yet. Did you hear the man who got the most votes in the last presidential election endorsed DEAN? People will notice this.
I have trouble believing that if Gore endorsed Clark you would have the same view.
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Tue Dec-09-03 12:25 AM
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12. I would like a Gore endorsement.... |
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Edited on Tue Dec-09-03 12:26 AM by dobak
1 - It would give us some media attention for once....
2 - It would give us a boost in momentum.
3 - It would have prevented alot of Clark leaners from thinking the ship has sunk when it fact I think it is as strong as it was yesterday.
Gore is a great man, and I think that it will give Dean a small boost. I just don't think it will have any major impact on the race like some people think it has.
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Tue Dec-09-03 02:51 AM
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28. nomaco-10, we're all going thru that. |
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I'm for Clark. But I love Kucinich yet some of his supporters make it difficult. I respect Dean and his civil supporters, but many of them make it difficult. Kerry has some zealots. Etc.
I'm glad you're able to put aside your annoyance at the difficult Clark supporters and not hold it against the General himself.
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Tue Dec-09-03 12:08 AM
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Tue Dec-09-03 12:09 AM
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It's hard to have a Gore who was both
a.) a political naif so spineless and naive as, say, to lose an unloseable campaing in 2000 to a lawn ornament, or endorse Gray Davis,
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b.) an evil genius so ruthless and Machiavellian as to be gaming the 2008 election already.
You can pooh-pooh the endorsement, but you have to choose on the basis of which Gore to do it on.
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Tue Dec-09-03 12:15 AM
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8. This is getting disgusting |
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Tue Dec-09-03 12:16 AM
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Tue Dec-09-03 12:18 AM
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The talking down to Clark supporters from Deanies
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The Clarkies saying that Gore isn't that big of a deal
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Tue Dec-09-03 12:35 AM
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14. dobak... you don't understand Dean Underground's rules.. |
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If you say something that is not glowingly positive of Dean you are a filthy baseless basher. Even when you use Dean's own words you are still WRONG WRONG WRONG, DEAN DEAN DEAN!!!!
TWL
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Tue Dec-09-03 12:36 AM
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15. The maligning of Gore |
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Tue Dec-09-03 12:39 AM
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16. I don't mean to malign Gore |
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Edited on Tue Dec-09-03 12:39 AM by dobak
I voted for him and I like him.
But he seems to have been elevated to DEMOCRAT GOD!! within one day.
Repeat: Good man, but just one man
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Tue Dec-09-03 01:00 AM
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22. No, just as Gary Hart's endorsement of Kerry was a coup for Kerry |
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Gore's endorsement of Dean is a coup for Dean. Nothing more. Gore only has one vote. If someone actually changes who they support based on this, then you have to wonder what level of conviction they have.
At the end of the day, what this does for Dean is help him extend his name in the pool of voters who don't know who he is.
To beat up on Gore for doing this is disgusting.
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Tue Dec-09-03 12:31 AM
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Tue Dec-09-03 12:40 AM
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17. not bad - but the endorsements did not have much effect |
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Tue Dec-09-03 02:49 AM
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26. So little effect....that it drove you to post on it's nothingness. |
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Tue Dec-09-03 03:49 AM
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29. He's just attacking Gore's credibility as far as |
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picking winners. He's angry and responding to my post.
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Tue Dec-09-03 12:55 AM
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18. Luckily for Clark, he only endorses |
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Tue Dec-09-03 12:56 AM
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19. Hahahaha! Never heard that one before! |
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Tue Dec-09-03 01:02 AM
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23. Disagree, but I admit it's a good comeback. |
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In other news... HALL ENDORSES OATES!
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Tue Dec-09-03 02:51 AM
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27. Wee hours is when the wit comes out! |
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