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Paragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 11:22 PM
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Ohio likely to pass gay marriage ban very soon
I'm sorry, I can't find a link for this yet -- the Ohio legislature just passed this on to the senate around an hour ago by about a 3-to-1 margin.

The senate could conceivably vote on this as soon as tomorrow, and I'm told it's likely to pass.

I gotta get the fuck out of this city and this state. I'm straight as an arrow and am no bleeding heart, but the people around here seem to relish in depriving people of basic human rights.

Thought y'all would want a heads-up before the final vote makes the national news.
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pasadenaboy Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 11:23 PM
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1. good thing they are focused on important stuff like that
what an absolute joke. what next, flag burning?
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OhioStateProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 11:28 PM
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2. yeah, it'll pass
Edited on Wed Dec-10-03 11:28 PM by OhioStateProgressive
wouldn't shock me if it it dies upon court challenge though

and Ohio will face a similar situation as Massachusets

who people want to have sex with is not my concern:)
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DivinBreuvage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 11:38 PM
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5. Let's not stop there!
I'm going to write to Voinovich, Dewhine, and the Original Woodenhead and demand that Ohio reassume the role it formerly occupied as a national leader. We deserve the glory of being the first state to anticipate the wave of the future and outlaw interracial relationships by passing a couple of laws similar to the Nazi "Nuremberg Laws" of 1935.

(This is sarcasm, I'm in an interracial marriage).

For more info on the Nuremberg Laws (they're very short and make quick reading) see: http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/Holocaust/nurlaws.html
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Silverhair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 11:35 PM
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3. I has only symbolic value if they do.
The MA decision doesn't leave much room or time for the legislature to do a civil unions thing. (I could be wrong on that.) If MA give the OK to gay marriage, then the gay groups have already announced that they will go to SCOTUS to have MA gay marriages recgonized in all states, under the "Full Faith and Credit" clause of the Constitiution. So all states will then have to recgonize such marriages, altough they may not perform them themselves.

That is why the Federal Marriage Amendment will be such a big deal.

If Ohio does pass this, and they probably will, they will be the 38th state to do so. That is the same number of states that would be needed to ratify the FMA. That's the real signifigance in the bill.

And politics of course. It keeps a lot of people riled up.
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Paragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 11:37 PM
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4. Thanks for the perspective, Silverhair
I still want out of this hellhole, though. ;)
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BellTry Donating Member (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 11:48 PM
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6. I don't belive such a case will work
Yes, the states WOULD have to recognize marriages from MA under the constitution. (same thing for drivers licenses, etc.)

BUT - if a federal statue (a statue NOT the constitutional amendment BS) indicates that a marriage MUST be between male/female, would that not give the court ground to overrule the MA courts on the grounds they have violated federal law?
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Silverhair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 12:00 AM
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7. Clinton signed a Federal DOMA.
At this point, I am now over my head in legal interpretations, so I will have to stop. I really don't know how it would apply. Good question.
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