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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 10:08 AM
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Writing letters to the editor about another Democratic candidate.....WRONG
Writing letters to the editors about YOUR candidate....good thing.
Writing letters about Bush is good as well.
One campaign forum has people urging each other to write LTTE against Dean....that is just wrong.

Dean supporters are urged to write about him, not about other candidates.

Wrong, no redeeming qualities at all. You do NOT write letters to the editors about another Democratic candidate.
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AWD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 10:12 AM
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1. That's what the enemy does.....
...they attack and attack and attack. No other game plan exists.

And don't get me wrong....YES, those people are the enemy. They choose to attack a fellow Dem rather than praise their own or attack Bush. They ARE the enemy if this is the course they choose.

For crying out loud, praise your own, defend your own....but only a pathetic, bitter anti-Dem would have to stoop that low. They used to be known as Republicans, but it appears now as if they've shown up amonsgt us.

Sad.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 10:14 AM
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2. What does 'LTTE' mean?
:dunce:
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LittleDannySlowhorse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 10:14 AM
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3. Letter to the Editor
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 10:14 AM
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4. Letter to the editor.
You are not a dunce.
:D
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ShimokitaJer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 10:15 AM
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6. "letter to the editor"
and let me add my disgust with this practice to the thread. Let's get some perspective here, people.
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diamondsoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 10:15 AM
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5. URGH!! Just don't tell me it's Kucinich people!
Nope, nope, nope, that is absolutely wrong!
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 10:19 AM
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7. Nope.
Do a search.
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 10:42 AM
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13. Okay
searched to no avail. How about a link?
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 10:43 AM
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15. I will PM you.
:hi:
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 10:20 AM
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8. the best reason of all
is because that's what repukes want us to do.
it drives up the negatives for the whole campaign season.
if liberals would stay on target -- bush -- then we might get quite a ways in the minds of the public long before the actuall elction season begins.
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 10:20 AM
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9. agreed, don't attack other Dems through LTTE
that will hurt everyone.
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Demobrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 10:30 AM
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10. I guess desperate times call for desperate measures
but this is disgusting. I wonder if the candidate knows, and if so if he/she approves. I hope not.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 10:43 AM
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14. It is quite easy to spot on the forum.
I am quite sure the campaign is aware if they read the forums or blog. The candidate himself may not read them, but I doubt he would approve.
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Duder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 10:31 AM
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11. Excellent points
I hope whichever campaign forum gets with the program.
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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 10:33 AM
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12. It's one thing to debate the merits of our candidates in this forum
but we should never do it in the LTTE. Only support Dems in those.
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Kanola Donating Member (392 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 10:44 AM
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16. For those who are working fervently to stop Dean
If these people continue their inflammatory anti Dean mode they can pat themselves on the back for putting Bush back into office. When will they learn that is how Dems lose... Sheesh!
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 10:53 AM
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17. Dean folks should not do it either.
I found one by a Dean person in a newspaper while searching.....saying another candidate should step down.

It is wrong. We have Zell Miller doing enough harm.
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OhioStateProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 10:56 AM
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18. wait
it's ok to write positive letters

many non DK supporters are writing letters to editors complaining about the medias actions in regards to Dennis

I agree negative letters are bad
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 10:57 AM
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19. Very big self-defeating move.
Sorry to hear that folks in the campaigns want to take the 'in-house' battles out to the public - and risk doing further damage to the bigger cause (of the democratic party) in general. Building skepticism and illwill - will be used against not just the targeted candidate - but all candidates. Watch whatever slogans are being used - be turned around in an Orwellian move - on ALL candidates.

If War Hero Max Clelland could successfully be attacked as weak on national defense... he who lost limbs in the cause of the US ... against a draft dodger (who was framed as strong on defense... no kidding)... any anti dem. message can be used against any candidate. No one has an "innoculation." Not Dean on guns. Not the General or the Vietnam Veteran and Senator on Defense. These are Orwellian times and the outfundraising/spending on the right - will be used against any/all candidates. Giving more ammunition is VERY self-defeating.

Moreover the ONLY way we are going to have a chance with the spending disadvantage (it is inevitable)... is to be able to go one on one to fellow citizens, to use the newspapers, to have double the volunteers that we have ever had before... A form of unity at a higher level than before. These types of LTTE - are harmful by creating hostility and divisiveness within the groups that are needed for that kind of volunteer effort.

If you are behind a single campaign, and they urge this action, I ask that you think about the long-term harm that could be caused by it - even if your candidate gets the nomination. Some efforts are worth resisting.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 11:01 AM
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20. Which campaign forum is this?
?
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 11:44 AM
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21. I PMed you.
:hi:
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Demobrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 01:42 PM
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23. Why not just say who it is?
If they're willing to do something like that, I'm sure they're not ashamed, and I'd like to know.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 11:48 AM
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22. This is disheartening.
Which campaign would do this? I don't want to lose respect for my fellow Dems, but I worry that I am with each passing day.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 01:44 PM
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24. I saw people saying they should do it on the Clark Blog
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Demobrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 02:03 PM
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25. That's what I figured.
*
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 02:04 PM
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26. Link?
If you're going to throw that kind of accusation around, how about backung it up with a link, eh?
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 02:49 PM
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27. Pseudo-link.
I did a search on Google: "Clark Blog Dean Letters"

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=Clark+Blog+Dean+Letters

The first item that came up reads:

"Clark Community Network || CCN Home
... of Clark Writing letters telling why Clark is better than Dean Participating at the
local level in all Clark events All ... DC Pol Sci's Polls Analysis Blog. ...
www.forclark.com/ - 56k - Cached - Similar pages"

I can't find this on the site, though I didn't look for long, however.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 05:03 PM
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30. hopefully it was removed n/t
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 04:52 PM
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28. The other blog as well.....
The Kerry forum is advocating a lot of negativity. Dean folks should avoid this, all should. They have got to concentrate on their own candidate.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 04:59 PM
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29. Why now? Where was all the concern when Trippi had his dog attacking
Kerry's picture? That set a tone for the campaign and Deanies were spreading lies like Kerry = Bush, Kerry is Bushlite, and Kerry is a corrupt Washington insider. NOW, you're outraged how candidate supporters act towards Dean?
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 05:57 PM
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32. Kasey was attacking Kerry's picture?! What in the world
are you talking about?
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Demobrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 05:30 PM
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31. Dean supporters are too busy
writing letters to undecided voters to bother with LTTEs bashing their opponents.
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mb7588a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 06:40 PM
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33. People concerned with the actions/path of their
party and party members shouldn't write to express their concern? I did it yesterday on mbare.org. I'm not ashamed. The primary season is the time to structure the party. Only after a nominee is chosen should we be united. There has never been a primary, so wide open, where there wasn't bickering within the party. It's healthy.
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TexasSissy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 06:48 PM
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34. If you don't include a cite or link, you shouldn't accuse....
a campaign or its supporters of doing something.

It's possible it doesn't exist. It's possible it was one post from one person in response to something a pundit said about both Dean and Clark, and the suggestion was to write to clarify THAT. It's also possible it was one deviant supporter (all the campaigns have them).

It's hard to know the facts when the facts are not presented and sources not cited.

I'd say that most Clark supporters don't frequent the blog. Too difficult to use.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 06:57 PM
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35. I can give you links to both forums.
But you can go there and do a search on "howard dean." If I post the links, I will be attacked for doing it.

If I post the links, you will see DUers there or someone with the same user names.

I just think this is wrong. Write letters to build up own candidate, not to tear down another.



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