Now more than ever we need Clark

[sidwill]

This weekends developements have made it even more imperative that Clark gets the nod. Regardless of where you stood on the Iraq adventure (i'm opposed, still opposed) Husseins capture puts a feather in chimpy's cap. In the 04 election Rove will use this event and others as a bludgeon to batter our nominee. It is a fact, they won't play fair, they run the media, and all we will get will be "Bush as the Hero" 24 -7. The ONLY candidate that blunts this attack is Clark, they will use it against him as well to some effect but he can stand on his life in the military to weaken this tactic.

Dean, Kerry (i voted for the war but I didn't mean it),and gephart have been compromised by the capture and the resultant boost that it affords supporters of the war.

Right now Dean is the frontrunner, but one must ask honestly, how vulnerable will he be to these kinds of attacks? Within our own party they will mean nothing, but to Independent and Republican voters the national security issue would be devastating to a Dean candidacy.
We can't be cocky and say that Dean can win without Republican or independent votes, we need to start appealing to the moderates in both those groups to win in 04.

Clark is the only one who can do that.

[DoveTurnedHawk]

1. People Who Think Bush Will Be an Easy Opponent for Any of Our Candidates

Are fooling themselves.

This will be a tough election, and it is incumbent upon us to put forward our most electable candidates.

DTH

[La Lioness Priyanka]

2. i disagree

i believe that we will never get conservative votes regardless of whom we put up there are the real liberal will not vote for clark...dean is somewhat of a compromise for the liberals but atleast they are willing to think about him being a potential candidate..i think we have a slim chance with dean but thats better than nothing

[Patriot_Spear]

3. Sorry, you can't beg your way to a nomination.

You'll have to fight for it- and I honestly fail to see anything substantive in your post that would sway my vote.

And while we're at it, I'm sick of people getting the 'nod'- let Clark earn my 'vote' instead. The 'annointed' candidates come from the same political culture that have lost us the House, the Senate and refused to fight for the Presidency even when we had more votes.

This time, 'We the People' are picking the candidate- that's why I'm fighting for Howard Dean.

[Jack_Dawson]

9. Enjoy Another Four Years of Shrub

[Patriot_Spear]

11. So those are my choices? Clark or Shrub?

How did you manage to work that one out?

Like I said- win the primary if you can. Good Luck- you'll need it; I'm fight for Dean.

[Jack_Dawson]

14. Yes, those ARE your choices

There's a reason republicans are emptying their wallets to donate to Dean. He appeals to the base, but has zero crossover appeal. If our country was 280 million college-educated liberals living in major metropolitan areas on either coast, Dean would win in a runaway.

Unfortunately, he needs to appeal to the flyover states as well...and so far he doesn't, and Rove&Co. understand this. I wince as I see us march toward this electoral disaster

[Patriot_Spear]

16. Sorry- second guessing 'Karl Rove' is not a campaign platform

If this is all you've got, I'll stick with Dean.

[AWD]

15. Haven't you heard???

If you're not with Clark, you're with Bush.

I've heard that before.....hmmmm, I wonder where????

[Patriot_Spear]

17. Yeah, this seems to be the 'meat' of the Clark Campaign...

I'm still waiting for substance overe fearmongering.

[Jack_Dawson]

19. Like I said, enjoy another 4 years of Bush

I'll post the "I-told-you-so's" next November.

[Patriot_Spear]

20. If that's what get's you off...

I'll be working hard to defeat Bush*; from your posts I'm not sure what your goal is.

[robbedvoter]

4. Only an actual successful CIC can stare down a phony "glorious" one

The writing is on the wall. That's why Hague is kept in secret. Ironically, Milosevic is also running for office. Serbians can see HIM on TV, we can't see Clark.

[DemCam]

5. Right this minute

I fear for us all. For the first time in my memory, our local newspaper had the entire front page covered with the flea-bitten Saddam...under the screaming headline...<b>WE GOT HIM</b>

It says everything.

I fear that the Democratic Party has shot itself in the foot by trying to arrange the early primaries so we could pick a winner quick in order to facilitate fund-raising.

Our primary here in New Mexico has been moved from June to Feb. 3...and what's more it is a caucus...Michigan style. People are not even aware that we are having it and many that are think only party people vote in it and they will get a chance later on.

I, too, believe Wes Clark is the man who can lead us out of the darkness of PNAC hell...so those of us who have that belief...get out the credit card and get on the phone. He needs us all now.

[Patriot_Spear]

6. My take...

This is bad timing for Shrub. We're not leaving Iraq anytime soon, and in a few months people will turn from 'We got him!' to 'Why are still there if we got him?'.

My two cents.

[LuminousX]

7. I strongly disagree

I think what we are seeing is the foreign policy area really isn't going to be the battlefield, it is going to be the economy and social issues. Kerry and/or Dean have a much better shot in that arena than a General.

[opstachuck]

8. this "only one" shit needs to stop

i think most of our candidates can beat bush, but only if we have unity and if we don't beat each other to a pulp.

and you're only going to win converts by talking about substance instead of this 'only one' bullshit. so tell me, how would a clark presidency be better than a gephardt, kerry, dean, etc. presidency?

this 'only one' business is just more fear-mongering that will turn off voters. i will vote for ABB but this is pretty juvenile

[Jim Sagle]

10. Nobody but Clark? Pfffffbbbbbbtttttt!!!!!

[bowens43]

12. I disagree

If we need a hero then obviously Kerry is the best choice. Not only does he have war hero credentials, he also has history of opposing unjust wars which will appease the anti-war crowd (of which I'm a member). Kerry has far more experience in domestic issues then Clark. Kery knows how government works. Kerry has a verifiable history of supporting Democratic issues. Dean may or may not be the best choice , but clearly, Clark isn't.

[TLM]

13. On the contrary... Clark is now a WEAKER candidate...

As was seen in his trying to downplay Saddam's capture as just a small step.

Sorry Wes, people won't see it that way.


Clark, who wants to sell himself as the better protector than Bush and the better warrior just took a serious blow... because Bush got Saddam and people will see that as Bush being a strong sucessful warrior. Clark being a candidate is dependant on Bush being a total failure on military policy. Without that, he's got nothing to run on. Now beating Bush based on the idea of being better at dealing with Iraq is a much weaker position.


Dean, on the other hand, has not gone the route of beating Bush based on being a bigger warrior, but rather on being wiser about where we get involved and focusing on domestic policy. Now Dean has the power position of saying great we got him... now we can move on to getting our troops home and focus on domestic policy.

[webkev]

18. too much Dean bashing

stop this sick display
democrats should not bash other democrats

[AWB777]

21. Clark is the only Democratic candidate who can win

Period. He is the only candidate who makes the Democrats look strong against terrorism. Dean is too far to the left for most Americans right now and he will lose by a landslide. I used to be a Republican but I will be voting for a Democrat this election. I supported Afghanistan, but not Iraq. I believe that the Iraq war violated every tenet of our country's principles. The 2004 election will be my first Presidential election in which I can vote and I will proudly cast my ballot for Wesley Clark if he is nominated.

[Myra]

22. Kick

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