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IDUDOYOU Donating Member (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 07:18 AM
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Why nothing about the Liberia/Al Qaeda connection?
Why has the mainstream media or Bushco not made public the connection between Liberia and Al Qaeda?
If the connection was in the American mainstream conscience, do you really think Bushco would have a few thousand marines sitting off the African coast playing cards waiting for orders?
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lcordero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 07:30 AM
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1. He will out good ole Pat Robertson if he does
There is no use in him pissing off his base.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 07:30 AM
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2. Because it would embarass Pat Robertson
Edited on Mon Jul-28-03 07:31 AM by DoYouEverWonder
And that information would show, that there is only one degree of seperation between al Qaeda and the WH.

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IDUDOYOU Donating Member (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 07:37 AM
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4. And the Liberian dictator, I mean President, is a "Christian"
The "Christian" Charles Taylor cannot be thrown out of office?
Why does Pat Robertson have an $8 million contract with him, I mean why has he counseled him in the ways of Christ? Yeah, that's the ticket, "counseled" him in the ways of Christ.
Taylor need the $8 million to build churches.
Yeah, that's it!
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whoYaCallinAlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 07:35 AM
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3. Not to sound naive, but what connection is there?
I wasn't aware that there was one? And if it's true, why is the Congressional Black Caucus working so hard to get Bush to commit troops over there?
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lcordero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 07:39 AM
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5. a good strategy on the part of the Congressional Black Caucus
It bogs down and disables shrub from attacking anymore Muslim nations.
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 08:11 AM
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11. I think more to the point...
is that the Black Caucus has a natural interest in African affairs.

Liberia has been exporting arms and bodies for many of the local flareups over there and has it's fingers in the Ivory Coast, Congo, and much of the rest of the mess.

Taylor is a cancer that really should be eliminated, and is probably responsible for far more misery overall than the Hussein family. The question is just how to best take him down.

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IDUDOYOU Donating Member (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 07:40 AM
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6. Diamonds are a girl's and Al Qaeda's best friend
The short version
Pat Robertson-Illegal, according to Liberia's constitution, $8 million mining contract with Charles Taylor(who happens to be just as brutal as Saddam)
Liberia-Sold diamonds/gold/valuables to Al Qaeda
Al Qaeda used these valuables to finance operations

If a=b, b=c, then Pat Robertson supports Al Qaeda
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whoYaCallinAlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 07:47 AM
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7. Because Robertson mines diamonds in Liberia, and Liberia
sells diamonds to Al Quada, ergo Robertson "supports" Al Qaeda?

I'm not following your logic. If I am an autoworker and build cars for GM, and GM sells a car to Al Quada, ergo I "support" Al Quada? I'm sorry to be so dense, I just don't get it.
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IDUDOYOU Donating Member (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 07:57 AM
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8. Robertson could have taken his money out of Liberia
But he has not, even after it became known that those valuables he paid to get taken out of the ground were sold to Al Qaeda.
If you worked for GM, made a car, and it was knowingly sold to Al Qaeda,w ould you not raise a red flag somewhere along the line?
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whoYaCallinAlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 08:00 AM
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10. I'm sure Al Quada members are driving GM vehicles.
Tell you what. I'll just shut up cuz I don't see what you see.
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Mel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 08:23 AM
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14. don't shut up
do some research for yourself, ask more questions, and determine what You think.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 08:40 AM
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17. there's always the defense Robertson put up
in Taylor's defense. Told his brainwashed viewers that the Simian was wrong in wanting to overthrow this "good Christian man".

Of course Robertson loves his diamonds, nevermind his "lord".

Julie
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 08:49 AM
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19. Actually in Liberia, it's gold that Pat is after
He was into diamonds with his last business partner, Mobuto of Zaire. Seems that consorting with brutal dictators is a pattern of behavior for such a 'good' christian.

Add that to the fact, that Taylor until recently controlled the 'blood' diamond trade in Sierra Leone and it's easy to see why people get this mixed up. The 'blood' diamond trade has been one of the main sources of funding for al Qaeda. In return, Taylor gets weapons for all his rebels and is able to keep that region destablized. And that's what Bu$hCo loves, destablized third world countries. There's so much money to made killing people. No wonder they don't want anyone to have an abortion.

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lcordero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 07:57 AM
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9. Trading with the supposed enemy has always been a practice that
been illegal.
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 08:15 AM
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12. The Trading With the Enemy Act...
applies to countries we have declared war on or put on the State Department's bad guys list, like Cuba and Iran.

If Liberia gets on the list, Robertson and many shipping companies registered there can have their assets impounded and the principals could see jail time.

The jail time is probably moot for corporate officers, but ask a Bush about Union Bank.

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IkeWarnedUs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 08:16 AM
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13. a BIG difference between diamonds and a car
The GM car in whoYaCallinAlib's post has a serial number and its production and ownership can be traced.

Diamonds are "anonymous" and can be easily smuggled across borders with no way to trace their origin or ownership history.

Its not just that alQaida buys diamonds, its why and what they do with them. Diamonds are a perfect way to launder money - pay cash in a society that keeps minimal records, if any - transport them anywhere around the world without anyone knowing - sell them for cash, again with minimal records, if any.

Not possible with a car. Or most other items of value.
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IDUDOYOU Donating Member (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 08:29 AM
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15. Excellent point!
Also, Charles Taylor has been running guns all over West Africa, thus destabilizing the region.
Let's see, former American colony, brutal dictator, destabilizing a region of the world making it more desirable for terrorists, connections to Al Qaeda, people suffering, rape being used as a military tactic, etc....
Nothing to see here, folks! Time to move on.
Bushco and company see no reason why Liberia is of any value!
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 08:37 AM
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16. Maybe this will clear things up for you
BTW: This is not an employee on an assembly line, we are talking about the owner of the company, who is in bed with a known felon, who is in bed with al Qaeda terrorists. Even has them come to his house for sleep overs. Get it?


http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/12/29/1040511258516.html

Report ties two African leaders to al-Qaeda diamond spree

A year-long European investigation into al-Qaeda financing has found evidence that two West African governments hosted the senior terrorist operatives who oversaw a $US20million ($36million) diamond-buying spree that in effect cornered the market in the region's precious stones.

Investigators from several countries concluded that President Charles Taylor of Liberia received a $US1million payment for arranging to harbour the operatives, who were in the region for at least two months after the September 11 attacks on New York and Washington.

The terrorists moved between a protected area in Liberia and the presidential compound in neighbouring Burkina Faso, investigators say.

more...


http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/27d/025.html

Televantelist's pal Charles Taylor again linked to al Qaeda money laundering, "conflict diamonds"

<snip>

It 1999, Pat Robertson incorporated a Cayman Islands-based firm known as Freedom Gold, Inc., and signed an agreement with the Taylor regime to mine an area in southeastern Liberia. Numerous accounts have documented the fact that Taylor enjoys a 10 percent interest in the country. But the curious ties linking al Qaeda, Taylor and Robertson -- an association based, it appears, on pure greed—soon generated controversy. The Washington Post carried two stories critical of the cozy Robertson-Taylor business agreement, to which a Freedom Gold official replied: Freedom Gold Limited was formed in response to Liberia's need to spur economic activity after their long and devastating civil war. Dr. Robertson remains a friend of Liberia and is working to alleviate the suffering of the Liberian people. Dr. Robertson's first and foremost goal is to spread the Gospel of Jesus Christ to all nations.


Washington Post

Saturday, September 22, 2001

But in May 1999, Robertson, through Freedom Gold Limited, an offshore company registered in the Cayman Islands but based at CBN headquarters in Virginia Beach, signed an agreement with Taylor and key cabinet members allowing the for-profit Freedom Gold to explore and receive mining rights in southeastern Liberia, where gold is believed to be in the ground.

It's a great deal for Liberia, which is now an economic basket case thanks to the long civil war and Taylor's corruption. It's also good for Freedom Gold, which was formed by Robertson in 1998. Liberia -- and for all practical purposes we're talking Taylor -- gains 10 percent ownership of Freedom Gold.

As The Post's Douglas Farah reported in January, huge amounts of the country's funds have been siphoned off by a small group of Taylor's associates and relatives. Taylor "has his hand in everything and gets a cut of everything," a businessman told The Post. Other Liberians, probably Taylor's gang, are entitled to buy at least 15 percent of Freedom Gold's shares after the exploration period.




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rogerashton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 08:49 AM
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18. Liberia "harbored al-Qaeda operatives" following 9-11
"But in seeking a new base of operations in Africa, Al Qaeda
may care less about religious identity than the bottom line.
According to the Washington Post report, the two lieutenants
paid Liberia's authoritarian ruler Charles Taylor $1 million for
safe haven, then cornered the market on the country's diamond
trade in hopes of financing weapons purchases for Al Qaeda. "


From

http://www.globalpolicy.org/wtc/terrorism/2003/0108jihad.htm

The Washington Post item is



Report Says Africans Harbored Al Qaeda
Terror Assets Hidden In Gem-Buying Spree
Article 1 of 1 found

Douglas Farah Washington Post Staff Writer  
December 29, 2002; Page A1
Section: A

abstract at
http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_product=WP&p_theme=wpost&p_action=search&p_maxdocs=200&s_dispstring=allfields(Liberia)%20and%20allfields(al%20Qaeda)%20and%20allfields(compound)%20AND%20date(01/01/2002%20to%2012/31/2003)&p_field_date-0=YMD_date&p_params_date-0=date:B,E&p_text_date-0=01/01/2002%20to%2012/31/2003&p_field_advanced-0=&p_text_advanced-0=("Liberia")%20and%20("al%20Qaeda")%20and%20("compound")&p_perpage=10&p_sort=YMD_date:D&xcal_useweights=no

but the article is not available online for free. See also


http://www.news24.com/News24/Africa/News/0,,2-11-1447_1302175,00.html

http://hcilondon.net/hciserv/NewsIndex?source=newsdetails&NewsCode=170

http://atlanta.creativeloafing.com/2003-02-05/panic.html
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 09:20 AM
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20. Kick
Just to put something important up past the crap that's flooding the board this morning.
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rogerashton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 10:42 AM
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21. The Germans found the evidence
and the Washington Post published it -- who is hushing it up, and why?

Mr. Bush*! Question for you!
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IDUDOYOU Donating Member (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 01:07 PM
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22. Whatever happened to "with us or against us"?
Or maybe slavery is freedom and Al Qaeda means justice?!
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rogerashton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 01:10 PM
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23. Who do you reckon
he meant by "us?"

Mr. Bush*! Mr. Bush*! Just which side are you on?

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