PETA targets small children

[Loonman]

Probably because most adults are wise to their bullshit, hyperbole and lies.


http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/localRegional.bg?articleid=593

Fur flies over flier: PETA targets ‘Nutcracker’ kids
By David Weber
Wednesday, December 17, 2003

Animal rights advocates will single out small children at performances of ``The Nutcracker'' in the next few weeks by handing out fliers saying ``Your Mommy Kills Animals'' to youngsters whose mothers are wearing fur.


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I bet most of the PETA idiots will be wearing leather shoes........as usual.

[curse10]

1. This PETA idiot doesn't wear leather

:eyes:

[nn2004]

2. How about drugs tested on animals?

Do you refuse life saving drugs or medical procedures that have been tested on animals?

[veganwitch]

66. red herring

why would any veg*n feel the need to justify their actions to someone obviously hostile to any notion of animal rights?

nothing we say will make you happy and we will either be labelled uncaring (towards human animals), stupid, or hypocrites.

NEXT!!

[IronLionZion]

85. save a cow, eat a vegan

j/k I like vegans unless they ram their beliefs down my throat

[IronLionZion]

86. I look for drugs tested on Vegans

j/k I like Vegans

[nhtfopo]

20. Would you tell a 6 year old kid their mother kills animals?

In other words do you support this program?

[DoNotRefill]

28. Curse, would you tell a kid:

``And the sooner she stops wearing fur, the sooner the animals will be safe. Until then, keep your doggie or kitty friends away from mommy - she's an animal killer.'' ?

Why not just tell kids that their mother is a monster that's going to eat THEM when they're asleep?

This borders on child abuse.

[placton]

3. One of my friends says

PETA stands for "People Eating Tasty Animals."

[usrbs]

4. Why the venom against those who want to decrease suffering?

At a progressive board I'd expect more sympathy towards people who are against the exploitation and horrific cruelty that our society inflicts on animals.
No, I'm not in PETA, and I'm just a vegetarian, not a vegan. I do buy leather shoes when I can't find good alternatives. I think some of PETA's stunts are stupid and over the top. But if it makes you feel better about yourself, call me a contemptible hypocrite who buys organic milk and cage free eggs just to feel superior and look down on others. However, I don't understand why some carnivores feel so threatened by people who feel that killing and eating sentient beings who have emotions and feelings is wrong. If you have a pet dog or cat, imagine it being caged up for life in a tiny metal box without freedom of movement, and then being slaughtered for its meat. Imagine also that its claws and teeth were pulled out without anesthesia, so it won't be able to maim itself as it grew crazy under those conditions. That's what happens to many egg-laying chickens, who get their beaks cut off to prevent them from pecking themselves or their neighbors in their reaction to being cooped up and unable to move. But of course I can’t be against that because I wear leather shoes and because I take medicine to kill bacteria.
I once heard progressiveness being described as a widening of the circle of those you consider part of your tribe and thus worthy of compassion. The most enlightened are those with the widest circle. So some animal right advocates have widened their circle to include animals. They feel that killing beings for food or clothing is wrong. Some go farther than others in that. You obviously go a lot shorter. But why the hatred for those whose circle is so much wider than yours? Is it guilt? You make your own moral choices in life, and since I thought long and hard about mine, I prefer my choices to yours., and am willing to argue and try to bring you to a more inclusive view of life. But enough with this ridicule!

[swittersnc]

5. making that point

in a sane and logical manner as you did in your post is one thing. handing flyers to children telling them that their mommy kills animals is something entirely different.

[alphafemale]

9. That is it exactly.

Their point can be made in a much better way.

Psychological abuse of small children will not win ANYONE over to the cause of stopping animal abuse.

And welcome to DU! :hi:

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

36. wait ... it's not psychological abuse

It's like passing out flyers to kids saying there is no Santa Clause - inappropriate perhaps, incredibly obnoxious, but it's true - and it's not psychological abuse in any way. Ever seen one of those PETA videos? Makes you not want to eat meat for sure.

Farm kids watch and help slaughter animals, is that psychological abuse? Nope, that's just life.

[DoNotRefill]

38. Did you read the article?

How the F*CK can you say telling kids to keep their pets away from mommy because she'll kill them is NOT psychological abuse?????

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

39. well, I did now

Okay, this part is a bit over the top, I'll admit:

"And the sooner she stops wearing fur, the sooner the animals will be safe. Until then, keep your doggie or kitty friends away from mommy - she's an animal killer."

I still wouldn't call it abuse - children always go through the point when they learn about killing animals, often it is troubling and stressful, but we all learn to deal with it.

I eat meat, wear leather, and don't kid myself about what it is and where it comes from. I find people's attitude towards PETA to be understandable - don't want to deal with the truth. It seems to me that PETA is QUITE effective.

[DoNotRefill]

59. Telling a child "your mommy is going to kill your pet"....

is just as psychologically damaging as telling a child "You'll never amount to anything" or "why are you such a screwup?".

It's morally reprehensible.

[SOS]

79. Children in the US

have much bigger problems than a piece of paper from PETA.
Millions live in abject poverty. In NYC most homeless people are now under 18. Kids are subjected to 100,000 liquor ads on TV by the time they are 18. Horrifying violence such as biting, kicking and cursing is becoming common in children as young as 4 and 5. Video games restricted to "adults" due to their sickening violence are the most popular among children. Parents have become wage-slaves, who can't spend enough time bonding with infants. Corporate America spends billions on advertising to children to get Mommy to buy Happy Meals and Grand Theft Auto.
Popular music is now only sex and violence. Brittany shakes her ass at little kids while Eminem raps about killing his mother. TV is little more than endless murders and idiots eating bugs. Child pyschiatrist Robert Shaw calls America's current crop of kids "joyless and selfish". He says in 50 years of working with kids he has never seen such a crop of violent, meglomaniacal children. Read some reader reviews of his book here: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0060011831/103-7469030-1914211?v=glance

Personally I have seen a six year old try to kill a pigeon with a baseball bat while his parents laughed. I see kids attack as their first reaction to seeing a baby squirrel.
I was told to "Fuck off" by an 8 year old after I asked him to stop throwing rocks at a cat. A 6 year old recently came up to me and my dog. His first move was to try to kick him. That kids pathetic parents won't soon forget my response to this future Jeffrey Dahmer.

Yes America's children are in a sad state. They are indeed psychologically damaged by morally reprehnsible adults.
A flyer from PETA is completely irrelevant in the big picture.

[DoNotRefill]

81. So...

because society has other problems, it's OK to psychologically abuse kids even a little bit?

That's crap.

[SOS]

87. If your definition of child abuse

includes handing out flyers at a Boston performance of the Nutcracker, well, that's crap.
Are the parents so apathetic that they can't handle this situation?
If someone handed a flyer to re-elect George Bush to my first grader, I would politely take the flyer and throw it in the trash,
That's what responsible parents do.

[LeahMira]

78. Talk to adults... not kids!

Well, small children are told in school and elsewhere that if mommie or daddy smokes cigarettes s/he is going to die, and then you have kids coming home tearfully begging parents to stop smoking because the child doesn't want to lose his/her parents. Even worse are a few who tell kids that their parents' second hand smoke will make the kids sick.

Then, of course, there are the religious groups who tell children that abortion is murder and that some of their mommies have murdered their little baby brothers and sisters. Of course the children wonder if their parents are going to kill them also. And we wonder why ten year olds bring weapons to school?

I happen to think that all these people are going too far with their alleged efforts to make people feel uncomfortable in front of their own children, but I don't think PETA needs to be singled out. If you disapprove of PETA's tactics, then disapprove of the others who try to get "to you" through your kids.

[Loonman]

8. Using little kids to make your "point"?

That's sick, pathetic, and sad.

[YNGW]

11. No Problem

>However, I don't understand why some carnivores feel so threatened by people who feel that killing and eating sentient beings who have emotions and feelings is wrong.

I don't feel threatened, and you feel the way you do, and that's fine. But if these PETA people who want to participate in this would just keep it to themselves, everything would be OK. Do I go up to them and try and encourage them to eat meat? No. Do I go up to them and try and encourage them to wear fur? No. All I ask is they extend the same courtesy to me.

[DoNotRefill]

12. because the goal of this campaign....

is to traumatize children that haven't done anything to anybody in an effort to change their parent's behavior.

I find it contemptably humorous that PETA would traumatize human children in an effort to not traumatize animals. After all, humans are animals, too.

Mirriam-Webster defines "terrorism" as "the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion", with "terror" defined as "a state of intense fear; one that inspires fear, a frightening aspect, a cause of anxiety, an appalling person or thing; violence (as bombing) committed by groups in order to intimidate a population or government into granting their demands."

The goal of this campaign is to frighten children so that their mothers will stop wearing fur. It's systematic and coercive. That pretty much fits the definition of "terrorism" perfectly.

[Loonman]

13. Didn't the PETA head say he preferred a human-less planet?

Why can't he go on a hunger strike and see if anyone gives a shit?

[nhtfopo]

21. They all want less humans

As long as they aren't the ones that are "removed" from the planet. Otherwise they'd sponsor mass suicides.

[MadHound]

40. Oh please DNR, stop with the hyperbole

This isn't terrorism, and it is people like you making statements like that who are helping our transition to a facist state progress at a faster rate. What's next, vegans as terrorists?

This particular campaign might be a little over the top, but it can also be quite effective. Shaming the parents in front of their children while at the same time raising the kids conciousness. Hell, I was nine years old when I started protesting the Vietnam war, and am still glad that I did so. Maybe this campaign can direct these kids down a better path.

And I think you're giving children very little credit if you think an informational campaign will traumatize a child. Get real. Its not like they don't see much more traumatizing things every time they turn on the TV.

[DoNotRefill]

60. So you wouldn't object....

to my telling your 4 year old kid that you're a horrible human being and a war criminal?

They're trying to systematically coerce parents by attacking the parent-child relationship by LYING to children.

It's dispicable. And that's NOT hyperbole.

[MadHound]

77. Well, if I were a war criminal and horrible human being

I would suppose that it would kind of come with the terroritory. But since I am neither, I don't have to worry about it. Same with the PETA action, don't wear fur and you don't have to worry about PETA telling your child the truth. How much more simple can it be?

And how are they lying to kids? I mean c'mon, the evidence is right there, draped around your shoulders. You've had at least one animal killed in order to wear it's pelt, how many others it the future will you have killed?

You may disagree with their methods, but they are legal and gain results that contribute to the greater good of our society. Even for the greater good of the carnivoric majority in this nation.

[DoNotRefill]

80. Wearing fur....

doesn't mean you're likely to kill your kid's cat or dog, as the flyer states.

It's a LIE.

If a woman has an abortion, should Operation Rescue be able to give that woman's kids graphic pics of an abortion, and tell the kid that the mother may kill them next? It's the same conduct, just a different issue.

[HuckleB]

15. No one feels threatened by folks who purchase organic goods, etc...

However, PETA doesn't seem to focus it's energy on actual accomplishments. It appears to be much more about the fervor or religiosity of its adherents. Acts such as this create no good will and no positive change. However, several PETA activists will gather afterward, feeling very good about themselves, despite the fact that they likely gave their cause a setback in terms of actual change. It's very bizarre, in my opinion.

[blondeatlast]

18. Well said. I can't even take them seriously.

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

41. you're just wrong, PETA has been very effective

Most vegetarians and vegans I know credit PETA in some way. PETA has made it acceptable to talk about animal rights and it has made veganism hip and cool. You may hate their tactics, but they are quite effective.

If they weren't effective they wouldn't get such a hostile reaction from people.

[SmileyBoy]

56. I don't know the type of people you hang around...

...but where I am, veganism isn't considered "cool" in the least.

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

76. half the caucasian females in their 20s I know are

veggies or vegans, and more and more are wearing "veggie" shoes and the like.

[KittyWampus]

71. Yes Virginia, There Is A Wacko Left

Okay... wacko may be a tad harsh....

Look the Left AND Right both have extremists who are participating for one or two main reasons- Personal Issues of Self Worth & Power. And I do NOT mean anyone on DU in particular.

Rather than dealing with one's own internal demons... some people need to focus on some "Other" to avoid their own problems.

Then there are those who simply look for a means to manipulate and control other people. They need some way to get attention.

When I found out the Mitch Cohen at Counterpunch was the same fool who was at Stony Brook where I went to Univerisity, it became very clear how much of what the "Far Left" ends up being people who really just want to make waves... and just happen to pick Leftist causes as their "focus".

[WoodrowFan]

75. who is Mitch Cohen? (NT)

[blondeatlast]

17. Their tactics are vile. I'm a veggie, BTW.

But I am the beneficiary of medical products of animals (now its reconstituted DNA--insulin has kept me alive for 37 years) as well as medical research.

I see a middle ground. Targeting children is just as vile whether it's done by General Mills or PETA.

[IronLionZion]

88. What goes around comes around

if you don't like venem, then don't spew it. I like vegans and conservatives and people in general until they ram their beliefs down my throat and say I'm an evil animal killer or a baby killer, REPENT YOU EVILDOER! I laugh at that kind of bullshit.

peace

[NicoleM]

6. Are you AGAINST

the ethical treatment of small children??

;)

[HuckleB]

7. This reminds me of "mall preachers."

They know that they're going to piss people off, but that's part of the deal. That way they can go home feeling superior and holy because "they were persecuted like Jesus." This has the same feeling about it.

[BiggJawn]

10. PETA again, Ladies and Laddies!

So now they use their shock-tactik on children...

sick.

[DoNotRefill]

14. Ever wonder why PETA picks on little old ladies and children?

Because attacking bikers for wearing leather would require courage in addition to insane conviction.

:evilgrin:

[blondeatlast]

30. C'mon, let's stir something up--there's a biker bar about 1/4 mile away .

[YNGW]

16. Boycott Life!!

All products ever made are symbols of oppression. Therefore, we should buy nothing and live in caves and eat plants even though they don't like to be eaten and not talk to each other because all oppression begins when two people communicate. We will then be pure and world peace will arrive.

Long live the revolution! Long live ideological purity. Long live those who refuse to sell out. We shall inherit the dirt of the earth and revert back to apes.

Oh, excuse me, "revert" is a politically incorrect term, an example of specie-ism gone amok. Hopefully, the apes will eat us and put an end to the human race which has done nothing but cause trouble.

Long live mass suicide! Long live the absolutely unfettered and pure anarchism that recognizes that life itself is an act of oppression since no creature can survive without eating another and freedom will not reign until the earth is a cold lifeless rock floating aimlessly through space.

[KaraokeKarlton]

19. It's crap like this that makes PETA look like pro-lifers

Any people that employs these kinds of methods are nothing but emotional terrorists.

[Khephra]

23. That's the best description I've heard yet

PETA: The Pro-lifers on the the Left.

[bicentennial_baby]

27. Thanks Kheph

While I don't support the current PETA tactic that we are discussing, I am a PETA member and I resent your characterization quite a bit.

[DoNotRefill]

29. Hate to tell you this Bicentennial....

but the money you give to PETA as dues or whatever goes to fund this kind of crap. They're doing it IN YOUR NAME, USING YOUR MONEY.

As such, I'm sorry that you resent the characterization, but if you join and financially support a group led by crazies hell-bent on being counter-productive to get some press by terrorizing children, some of that sh*t is going to splatter.

[blondeatlast]

31. I think it's quite apt.

They are rumored to study their tactics, you know.

[Khephra]

43. I have no troubles with the members or the cause

However, with this act The "Organization" is now saying it's ok to scar children to get their msg across? That's child abuse.

Getting serial/mass murders to eat vegitarian before they are killed?

These aren't tactics, it's political theater that doesn't care who is hurt.

Don't worry, I won't go using the above term. But PETA has a "take no prisoners" attitude that's VERY similar to the RW Pro-life movement.

[Khephra]

22. I'm starting to believe more and more

That PETA is ran by RWers who use stunts like this to make the Left look insane.

Look: by living and breathing on this planet, each individual is killing off countless numbers of small creatures just by us moving about in our environment. If these PETA people who care more about animals than the psychological states of children during the holidays, then I think they should show us just how committed they are.

They need to hook up with one of the more severe Buddhist/Hindu religions that refuse to drink water without straining it first, out of fear that they'll kill microscopic creatures. And who are afraid to walk, lest they kill an insect in their travels.

[YNGW]

24. Bugs

Bugs were here long before people and should have the right to all our land. We have been living off our oppression of them for too long and now we must give them their land back. We should all rub ourselves with "reverse insecticide" so they will eat us and get what they rightfully deserve!

Long live the purest form of anarchism which recognizes the primacy of bug life. You wouldn't want them in your living room but they are essential to the eco-system. The Bug Liberation Movement will triumph!

[DoNotRefill]

25. Want to see PETA folks get insane?

Ask them how many critters were killed when the national headquarters building of PETA was built in a freaking WETLAND.

[Loonman]

26. That's true

I wonder how many eco-systems were damaged so they could have a place to dream up their wacky schemes?

[blondeatlast]

33. I love it!!! got a source???

[DoNotRefill]

35. I used to drive by it every day on the way to school....

eom

[highlonesome]

42. or ask them this....

How many small mammals are killed each time a soybean or wheat field is harvested?

Ever see what a thresher can do to a bunny?

[Blue_Chill]

32. This thread is funny

PETA is mean, they are crazy, blah blah blah. If you don't like them don't give them money. PETA isn't for you people that think your nice to animals because you don't kick the cat anyway.

[DoNotRefill]

37. Blue....

I like animals. I'm all for treating them humanely. I give time and money to support the local "no kill" shelter. I've transported adopted pets across the state to help get them to their new home. I've taken part in a "trap, spay, and release" program for feral cats. I oppose animal testing in almost all circumstances. In other words, I consider myself to be a fairly mainstream "animal rights activist".

PETA gives animal rights activists a bad name, just as Al-Queda gives all of Islam a bad name.

My favorite example of this was at the local marine science facility (owned by the State). They wanted to put in a dolphin rehab center, to take beached, sick dolphins. The plan was to build a tank, wait for a beaching, rescue the dolphin, and treat it. Once it was well, they were going to release them. It was a classic "win-win" situation. The dolphins didn't die, got well, and were released so they could go about their business, scientists could study the dolphins, and kids would be able to come and see the dolphins while they were getting better, fueling interest in nature. Everybody would have won. PETA protested it. Apparently they felt it was better for the dolphins to die than go to a "dolphin hospital" until they were well.

[Blue_Chill]

45. What do you do for livestock and lab animals?

They are the most mistreated animals on the planet that basically live hell on earth before meeting a horrible fate. Does your no kill shelter help them? Perhaps the local marine science facility lends a hand?

My guess would no neither of them, nor you care enough to help these animals. But what you do is slam the one group that has actually done something and had success in helping these animals. When there are other groups that are as effective as PETA I'll jump over to there side. I don't excuse all of PETA's actions, many of them disgusting, but I do understand that PETA cares about animals that most of us ignore. You don't have to be cute or a pet for PETA to care.

So like I said, PETA is not for those that think themselves kind to animals because they don't kick the cat.

[Loonman]

46. Success? What success?

What success has PETA been responsible for?


Don't say "they've raised awareness", because they haven't.

[MadHound]

51. Wrongo Loonman

Amongst other success PETA has force both KFC and McDonalds to buy their animals from much more humane, free range farms rather than factory farms. Just two success out of many.

Oh, by the by, you benefitted from this move by PETA. Free range livestock is much tastier AND much healthier. So you can rest a little easier about Mad Cow and other factory farm diseases thanks to PETA

[Loonman]

55. KFC and McDonalds *say* they now buy their livestock from these places

But do they really?

[MadHound]

65. Yes they really really do

I know of one factory farm(PSF) that was shut down because it lost it's MickeyDs contract as a result of PETA's protests. I also have a neighbor(small non factory farmer) who got a McDs contract for his herd due to the PETA agreement. Gee, helping the consumer to have a tastier, healthier end product AND helping the small family farmer. Those whacky PETA folks, what will the do next.

And rest assured, if you think that I'm just cherry picking examples, remember that PETA closely monitors these matters just to insure there is no backsliding. If there is, I'm sure you'll see those PETA folks in front of your local franchise quickly.

[DoNotRefill]

52. I covered that....

with the "I support humane treatment of animals" and "I oppose almost all kinds of animal testing" statements.

PETA doesn't care about animals. PETA cares about press, fundraising, and "Glory for Ingrid".

Tell us. When was the last time PETA actually SAVED an animal? Read this link.

http://lists.envirolink.org/pipermail/ar-news/Week-of-Mon-20030922/007129.html

Or this one:

http://www.petrescueonline.org/newsinfo/petaeu.htm

PETA kills animals, even when there are viable alternatives.

[Blue_Chill]

57. You support it? HOW???????

None of the groups you support do anything about it. Your moral support is welcome but it doesn't actually help anything. Also you can't SAVE livestock and lab animals, they are screwed. But you can make their lives less hellish.

[DoNotRefill]

64. "we had to kill that cat in order to save it"....

PETA KILLS animals. They admit it.

If it were you, and you had a choice of living in a hellish environment or being killed, which would YOU choose?

PETA has clearly decided that it's in the animal's best interest to kill them. They are CLEAR about that.

[Blue_Chill]

68. You are correct

this is why if you donate you specify where your money is to be used.

I stand firm on my point that they remain the only effective choice if you want attention given to animals that aren't cute endangered or pets.

[DoNotRefill]

70. "effective"?????

Good CHRIST, man!!! How much DAMAGE have they caused to the animal rights movement with crap like this campaign?????

[adriennel]

34. my little sister's

crying and pleading got my mother to stop wearing her fur coats. so, it does work, but this is a notion my sister acquired without PETA and I generally think targetting children is wrong.

[Rowdyboy]

44. If tht article is factual, these people should be arrested....

That is abuse, absolutely sickening abuse. PETA emphatically deserves the scorn it receives. I'd be tempted to resort to violence to anyone who put such a thing into my niece or nephew's hand.

Pictures of a mommy thrusting a knife into a bunny's belly are out of bounds.

What filth. This goes beyond lack of good taste and manners.

[Gringo]

47. That is F---ed Up. Way to drive even more people away from your cause.

Fur isn't even that popular anymore, for chrissakes.

The sad thing is, PETA COULD be a real advocate for animals regarding REAL issues like the hideous state of factory-farm animals, but they have to make a point of being so extreme than nobody listens to them anymore.

Here in Miami, they are trying to shut down the Seaquarium because the dolphin & orca pens are too small (Seaquarium was built in the 50s) Instead of trying to reach out to this small marine park to try and nudge them in the right direction, they picket the park and alienate all the people who come to LEARN ABOUT marine life. My belief is that such a park can only benefit marine life in general by giving people a glimpse of these animals, and hopefully stimulate peoples' interest in protecting them.

I felt that the movie "Free Willy" was tainted by animal activist extremists as well. In the film, when the orca fails to perform on cue, the audience starts screaming, throwing things at the animal, stomping their feet, and generally terrorizing the whale. Sorry, but my experience is that the VAST majority of people at marine parks LIKE these animals - very much in fact, and would never deliberately hurt them. I walked out of that movie after that scene.

PETA needs to get a bit more in touch with regular people, the majority of whom believe animals should be treated ethically, but that people should be, too.

[Muddleoftheroad]

48. You can tell they don't try this crap in blue-collar cities

If they did, some Peta wimps would need new teeth.

Taking advantage of children that way is so offensive. As you sow, so shall you reap.

[SmileyBoy]

61. They've had absolutely no effect on most of the country.

The farlmands and mountain areas of the Great Plains, Midwest and Western US and the South too, have meat (farming, ranching) ingrained in their traditions. PETA would never be able to gain supporters here in North Dakota for example, maybe with the exception of the more counter-culture urban areas of the city of Fargo. The reason is that farming and ranching is tradition here, and anyone trying to rally to get rid of that tradition will of course be frowned upon. Any other state where you see farming and ranching as a part of the lifeblood of the culture and economy, you won't see PETA having any success.

[SmileyBoy]

49. What else can I say?? PETA is a bunch of bastards.

How about starting an orginisation called PETH (People for the Ethical Treatment of Humans) before we worry about animals???

Millions of humans are dying of starvation, AIDS, genocide, warfare, etc., and these idiots are more worried about cute little bunnies and dolphins and cows and pigs.

These assholes disgust me.

[DoNotRefill]

54. The Onion said it best.....

http://www.geocities.com/scott_metz/onion/petacommandos.html

[SmileyBoy]

58. LOL!! Loved that article!!

It speaks exactly of what PETA idiots are really like.

[smirkymonkey]

89. That is pretty funny...

Also reminds me of the scene in Monty Python's holy grail...The Rabbit of Caerbannog..
TIM:
Well, that's no ordinary rabbit!
ARTHUR:
Ohh.
TIM:
That's the most foul, cruel, and bad-tempered rodent you ever set eyes on!
ROBIN:
You tit! I soiled my armour I was so scared!
TIM:
Look, that rabbit's got a vicious streak a mile wide! It's a killer!

And there was much carnage..

[Hep]

50. Anyone surprised?

This is how PeTA does things. How many animals will be saved by this campaign? NONE.

[RebelOne]

53. I am an animal rights advocate and a vegetarian.

And I support PETA on a lot of their issues, but I think they are going a bit too far by targeting the children.

And those PETA "idiots" will be wearing leather shoes if they are not vegan. I am a vegetarian, but I wear leather. Vegans do not eat or wear any animal products.

[WoodrowFan]

63. Oh, I wondered

I wondered what the difference was between vegan and vegetarian.

[alphafemale]

69. No dairy or eggs for them either.

And they check grooming products to be sure they aren't tested on animals.

Some of them also refuse to use honey. (enslaved bees) :evilgrin:

This is all fine and relates to personnal choice, but this PETA campaign is very Phelpish.

No one has any right to mess with someone elses kids.
Especially on a fun family outing.

[WoodrowFan]

74. enslaved bees??

enslaved bees!! ROFLMAO!! OH= MY GOSH, that is the funniest thing I have heard in a long, long time!! :yourock:

[Loonman]

82. Enslaved bees?

Shit, now I've heard it all...

PETA has to make shit up, now.

[veganwitch]

62. Usually they dont target children

During their year long protests with macdonald's in which they were handing out "un-happy meals" they always gave it to the parents and never directly to the children.

I wonder why they changed their tactics.

They do have stuff for kids and teens but the kid stuff is usually for already-veg kids.

[DoNotRefill]

67. Because...

traumatizing children gets more press.

They constantly have to find new and interesting ways to outrage people.

[no_arbusto]

72. On a lighter note, does this mean that they're...

PETAphiles?

Thank you I'll be here all week. Remember to tip your waiters and bartenders and also remember the two drink minimum.

[Robb]

73. DOH!

(rimshot) ;)

[smirkymonkey]

83. You mean, I can't wear coats or shoes

made out of small children anymore? damn!

Seriously, though - this is pretty warped.

[IronLionZion]

84. People for Eating Tasty Animals

a lot of PETA members like to wear leather Birkenstocks.

Grain harvestors kill millions of small animals which are not eaten.

I'm not a fan of fur but a better way to protest is for women protestors to be in the nude.

Meat is yummy.

[bobbyboucher]

92. Original

Did you think that one up?

[ArkDem]

90. I'm a free-range fruitarian and will only eat fruit that has freely

fallen to the ground. Stop the SLAUGHTER of innocent plants!!!!!!!!!!!

[bobbyboucher]

91. Another PETA bashing thread! Yeah!

Another chance to bring out all the old PETA cliche's! Yeah!

Poor fur wearer's little children might find out where mommy's coat comes from, ahh.

Can't have that.

[George_Bonanza]

93. You must realize that there's a difference

Between creating awareness, and trying to scare kids into submission to their beliefs. Kids don't really bother to think much. Show them a picture of an aborted "baby" and they'll probably go crying to their mothers to join pro-life. Show them pictures of gassed Kurds and they'll probably support the war on Iraq. And likewise, tell them that their mothers' clothes are made by goring animals, and they'll "know" it's wrong. The reason why they target kids is because it's easy and efficient. To hell with trying to reason and persuade, just scare'em all! And what kind of tactics are those? It's a very mild case of terrorism, but still terrorism.

[bobbyboucher]

94. Terrorism?

Whatev. Figures you would compare it to abortion and terrorism. Don't you guys have anything else to use? oh yeah, gassing kurds?

"Mommy wears rabbits! Yeah!"

[George_Bonanza]

95. What else do you call it then?

If you were trying to influence an impressionable group with scare tactics? Are these PETA people providing any facts? Any arguments? No, they're simply trying to prey upon the fears of little kids.

[bobbyboucher]

96. What are the fears of the little kids

that you mention? Scare tactics? What's scary?

[Moderator]

97. locked

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