AngryYoungMan
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Wed Dec-17-03 11:00 AM
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Hussein capture timed to hurt Dean? |
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I'm just speculating. But many on DU have talked this way in the past: BushCo understood Hussein's location and "moved in" when they wanted to.
After the Gore endorsement, everyone's freaking out about Dean. Could this have been timed to "take him out" early, Watergate style?
Like I said, I'm just speculating.
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Wed Dec-17-03 11:02 AM
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I have believed all along that at least one of the three following things would happen before the R National COnvention:
1. We catch/kill Saddam 2. We catch/kill Osama 3. Reagan passes away.
The sooner these things happen, the more time we have to fight back. But yeah, I think we knew Saddam wasn't leading the insurgence. I think we knew where he was. And yes, I think Bush waited until he needed a trump card and threw it. But it's good that it happened so early. He's running out of lifelines.
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Wed Dec-17-03 11:05 AM
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so if they hadn't caught Saddam they would have killed Reagan?
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Wed Dec-17-03 11:17 AM
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Wed Dec-17-03 11:05 AM
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I think Hussein was timed to give America a "Merry Christmas".
To ease our poor troubled hearts and let us spend easily as much money as we can on crap we don't need.
Plus, it looks like we are doing something. Like I said it is X-Mas. Lot's of families will be unhappy that Mom or Dad or Son or Daughter will not be home for the holiday. At least this way they are doing important stuff! :eyes:
That's my opinion anyway...
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Wed Dec-17-03 02:39 PM
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26. I agree: Xmas present for America |
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On Monday I heard on the NBC affiliate in the Champlain NY/VT region that retailers were hopeful that Saddam's capture would help boost holiday sales. They might as well have said that it's a great way to celebrate the birth of Lord and Savior, too.
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Wed Dec-17-03 11:07 AM
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4. Could be--I believe they had Saddam for a while, and they decided |
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to play it for as much as it's worth, and when it was politically expedient for them to do so--Dean was on a wave until this happened. I don't think this will hurt dean in the long run, but it did take his face off the front pages for a while.
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Wed Dec-17-03 11:07 AM
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5. Temporary. It will backfire just like "mission accomplished" |
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Iraq is about to erupt into armageddon. Civil war is starting and we are stuck hiding in bunkers in the middle of 24 million exceedingly pissed off Iraqis who have lots of guns, RPGs and mortars.
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Wed Dec-17-03 11:12 AM
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Just got off the phone with an attorney friend and he said that in narcotics investigations the cops know where the suspect is long in advance of the arrest.
Why not do the same with Saddam?
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Wed Dec-17-03 11:12 AM
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7. Kerry and Gephardt responsible for Saddam release |
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Wed Dec-17-03 11:12 AM
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8. Well, between the Saddam hysteria |
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Hillary's competing speech on foriegn policy and the media's efforts to mislead people as to what Dean was saying, I'd say he wound up in the middle of a political "perfect storm".
Let's hope he can stay afloat (but not TOO much afloat)
After all, I'm still for Clark ;^)
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Wed Dec-17-03 11:15 AM
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then they would consider Dean to be the largest threat in the general election. I tend to think they just got him when they did but they are certainly exploiting it for all they can.
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Wed Dec-17-03 11:21 AM
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Wed Dec-17-03 11:25 AM
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12. Well, The Juxtaposition With Clark At The Hague Isn't Good For Junior |
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and as the Campaign goes on it WILL be there.
Frankly, I think Saddam was handed over alive on someone else's timetable... not Rove's.
Remember, initial word went out from Iran.
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Wed Dec-17-03 02:56 PM
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31. I agree, it's more likely Clark |
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his testifying at a war crimes trial is a pretty extraordinary event.
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Wed Dec-17-03 11:26 AM
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13. Anything Is Possible With These Guys... |
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As someone on some board said, why have we never seen any pictures of Saddam in that "spider hole" and there is no video of his capture, especially considering the Jessica Lynch rescue tapes. I think they take video along for everything. Could it be a screw-up that he wasn't killed?
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Wed Dec-17-03 03:12 PM
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I posted an article in another thread, it was from an embedded reporter in Iraq, and he said that for the record it was the Kurdish army who caught Hussein, not the US.
This story twists around just as much as the Jessica Lynch story.
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Wed Dec-17-03 11:32 AM
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14. As soon as Diane Sawyer said at the beginning of |
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her show last night - that this "interview" had been scheduled since early of last week - I think she said Tuesday - I thought ahhhhh, so THAT'S why they brought him in then - had to have a "love fest" for the interview. But who knows. We all have to question everything anymore.
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Wed Dec-17-03 11:32 AM
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15. They waited till they felt Dean was the shoe-in for nominee |
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and it was too late for the Dem party to adjust accordingly.
That way they further divide the party doing maximum damage to its partymembers who will be blamed for nominating such a weak general election candidate.
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Wed Dec-17-03 02:47 PM
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29. Right. Coz everybody knows elections are won in December. (nt) |
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Wed Dec-17-03 11:36 AM
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16. Last week's capture of Saddam DAYS after the Iraqi Tribunals... |
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were set up was just too obvious. Anyone paying attention has to know that is just TOO much of a coincidence.
As for the reason for the timing, the RW media heads were giggling with glee over the fact that Dean's foreign policy speech 'happened' to be scheduled days after the capture. I think it could very well be part of the timing decision.
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Wed Dec-17-03 11:37 AM
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17. I don't think it was timed at all |
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I think if it was too be timed it would be shortly before the election.
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Wed Dec-17-03 11:43 AM
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18. Don't you think that would have demanded too many questions? |
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Edited on Wed Dec-17-03 11:43 AM by Junkdrawer
I mean days after the Iraqi tribunals were set up was bad enough, but that would have REALLY forced people to look into the timing.
As it is, it's perfect: Obvious enough that politicos are tempted to comment, not obvious enough to force mainstream examination.
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Wed Dec-17-03 12:04 PM
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Like the poster below me said "Hey-who knows".
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Wed Dec-17-03 12:02 PM
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what they've got lined up for us in Sept/Oct. I'd hate to speculate - even though I do.
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Wed Dec-17-03 12:19 PM
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21. Sooner or later the dam of suspicion is going to burst... |
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Way too many "coincidences" keep happening.
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Wed Dec-17-03 12:22 PM
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22. Doesn't hurt him. The reality is still there. We were lied to in |
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order to start an oil/world control war. Saddam is irrelevant and has been for over twelve years.
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Wed Dec-17-03 01:55 PM
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23. If this was meant to "hurt" Dean, then we need more of it! |
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Dean has held steady or actually ROSE in most polls I've seen post-Saddam capture. To boot, the ultraslimey antiDean attack ads have swelled his coffers with more campaign money.
So my request of the antiDeans on both the Democratic and Repukelican sides? Bring it on, baby! Every stunt makes my guy more popular and flush with cash!
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Wed Dec-17-03 02:27 PM
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25. Yup, had to send another contribution last night, |
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to fight the Osama slime campaign. The gepkerwardarkman is a terrible beast, but needs to be slain.
The tea is in the harbor. ;-)
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Wed Dec-17-03 03:34 PM
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33. High five. I think I'll match yours and get a check out tonight. |
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Wed Dec-17-03 01:59 PM
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If they wanted it to hurt Dean, then they would have done it shortly after New Years. Face it, for the next three weeks, people are going to be preoccupied with the holidays, and the capture of Saddam isn't going to have much staying power. If they were specifically targetting Dean, they would have done it closer to the primaries, and when people would be paying attention.
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Wed Dec-17-03 02:43 PM
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27. Either that or move focus off of Halliburton! |
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And their illegal looting of $61 million of our tax dollars!
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Wed Dec-17-03 02:45 PM
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28. Yep. And if your read the DU front page, it's pretty obvious that they're |
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Wed Dec-17-03 02:51 PM
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30. everythings a conspiracy against Dean... |
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Wed Dec-17-03 08:37 PM
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All Dean, all the time. Lately anyways.
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