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pruner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 08:46 PM
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new ABC/Wash Post national poll
Dean 20
Leiberman  12
Kerry  7
Sharpton  7
Clark   7
Gephardt 6
Braun 3
Edwards 2
Kucinich  2

Dec 10-14. n=411 Dems & Dem-leaning Independents. MOE±5.

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_Jumper_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 08:47 PM
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1. Dean leading 20-12? Lieberman 2nd? Clark mired in 5th? RIP Edwards?
Edited on Wed Dec-17-03 08:48 PM by _Jumper_
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La_Serpiente Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 08:48 PM
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2. +/- 5 is pretty big
Sharpton is REALLY suprising. Maybe it was that SNL performace that did it for him.

All of these polls coming out seem to be really weird, almost inconsistent.

I think that Dean is the frontrunner right now, but everyone below him is all over the map.
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TrueAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 08:52 PM
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3. All these polls prove is it is anyone's race to win
Until somebody reaches 50 percent in the poll don't count anyone out.
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DoveTurnedHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 08:52 PM
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4. Man, There Have Been Some Fucked-Up Weird Polls Lately
:crazy:

DTH
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 08:53 PM
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5. I'd agree
;-)
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 08:54 PM
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6. Clark's 7?
Looks like Dean also leads among independents......
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SeveneightyWhoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 08:56 PM
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7. Looks like they polled Republicans.
Dean first, of course.
Lieberman second? Sharpton fourth (tied with Clark)? Hmmmm.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 09:01 PM
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10. that's a silly conspiracy
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 10:35 PM
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16. Don't they usually poll in Middle America?
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RevolutionStartsNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 08:59 PM
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8. Great day for polls!
I'm off to write letters with a group of people downtown! :bounce:
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Democrats unite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 09:00 PM
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9. I think they are using Republican polsters
eom
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 09:02 PM
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11. silly assertion
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 10:16 PM
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12. Any Poll Showing Joe THAT High Can't Be Reliable
including the REST of the results.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 10:19 PM
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14. Friend, do you suffer from "Lieber-denial"?
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 10:19 PM
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13. ouch
This is why I don't like the horse-race emphasis on polls. The pool of reliable respondents is so low that the margins of error are usually off the charts. +/- 5% my ass. I've done market research as a profession. I know polls. This means something bad for Clark, but not something as devastating as it might appear.

The Lieberman effect is for real, however. DU is a great echo chamber for anti-Lieberman sentiment. But this board's been delusional about how strong his candidacy is from the beginning.
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pruner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 10:21 PM
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15. I continue to believe that his poll position is due to name recognition…
he continues to drop in primary state polls as more people get to know his compettitors.
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