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Isere Donating Member (920 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 10:39 PM
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Lieberman campaign ad..details and analysis
http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/news/politics/7515715.htm

...."The ad portrays Lieberman's record accurately. On the environment and abortion, Lieberman was given a 100 percent rating from the League of Conservation Voters five times and NARAL Pro-Choice America in 2001 and 2002. He has introduced legislation and spoken out against discrimination of minorities, women and homosexuals. He has been consistent in his views on the Iraq war, voting to go to war as well as for the $87 billion spending bill to help rebuild Iraq and Afghanistan.

As the ad says, Lieberman is "for cutting taxes" for the middle class. However, the ad doesn't explain that to achieve that, Lieberman would increase tax rates for the wealthiest Americans by repealing that portion of Bush tax cuts."

Doesn't sound all that conservative to me. Except for his support for the Iraq war, along with Gephardt, Kerry and Edwards, he sounds rather like a real Democrat.




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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 10:45 PM
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1. Joe is not conservative in his fiscal or human rights
views. I am amazed at the people here that don't like him.
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Cascadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 10:45 PM
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2. One word for that.....
Edited on Wed Dec-17-03 10:46 PM by Cascadian
Spin. It's all just Spin. Let's take Lieberman for what he really is and not for face value. He is Republican Lite. If he and Bush were in a debate, it would be a mutual admiration society. This is why his campaign is not working.

If he did get the nomination, Bush would win all 50 states. Maybe Lieberman would get Connecticut but that's it.

John

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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 10:47 PM
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3. Joe appeals to many moderate DEMS
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 11:17 PM
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7. he sure does!!!!
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Isere Donating Member (920 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 11:13 PM
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6. Votes are not spin!
A 100% NARAL rating is not spin!!!
His voting record on the environment is not spin!!!

You just wish it were spin because you don't like him. But, for Pete's sake,
don't call his actual record "spin."

You don't have to like him, but you should at least make a pro forma effort to look at his record and not at the leftie "spin."

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LittleDannySlowhorse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 11:18 PM
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8. I don't like Lieberman
but it's merely personal. He just reminds me of too many of my most hated relatives.

His record speaks for itself though, and I do admire a guy who says what he thinks even at the expense of being unpopular.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 11:20 PM
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9. Isn't that what happened between him and Dick Cheney?
It certainly left Gore out on a limb. It made Gore look like the spoiler in a cozy little club.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 10:51 PM
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4. Congress should have refused to pass any bill for $87 billion without
Congress should have refused to pass any bill for $87 billion without true oversight and accountability.
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La_Serpiente Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 10:54 PM
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5. Ah ah ah, let's see what Liberman voted for
Lieberman is more conservative than Bill Clinton.

Lieberman voted for the Securities Litigation Reform Act, which made it more difficult for misled investors to sue corporations.

Clinton vetoed the SLRA.

Lieberman and others overrode Clinton's veto.

Some believe that the SLRA made companies feel they could lie with impunity, and encouraged the Enron scandal.


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rainstan Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 11:21 PM
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10. He has been a Democrat
But, hasn't been acting like one. His attacks on Dean from the beginning have been way off base. He has bought into the idea that "the ouster of Saddam makes Isreal safer arguement" so hard he cannot see the forrest for the trees. Maybe he will go independent in his next senatorial election. He will maybe try to take over the Dems, by saying I was right, if Dean is nominated and goes down in flames to the Bush jugernaught.
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