BBV: High-tech voting weighed (A Must Read)

[Andy_Stephenson]

AARON CORVIN; The News Tribune

Electronic voting got both a public lashing and a pledge of confidence Tuesday as critics cited security failures and election officials touted accountability measures.

Voter advocate Bev Harris and Andy Stephenson, a Democratic candidate for Washington secretary of state, blasted electronic voting in Washington and around the country, and highlighted what they called serious security problems in King County.




They had documentation to show that at least two convicted felons have recently done work for Diebold Inc., an Ohio company that controls more than 50,000 touchscreen systems nationwide.

http://www.tribnet.com/news/local/story/4527404p-4503806c.html

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

1. Wow a story that told both sides without spinning it either way

Great work! I'm grateful to you for sticking your neck out.

[Andy_Stephenson]

2. What a way of putting it...

"sticking my neck out"....YIKES....NSMA.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

3. oops!

Didn't mean anything sinister. I was applauding your courage in the matter.

[aquart]

4. I wouldn't say the story was without spin.

Hiring felons means to sweep the men's room in most minds. Hiring an embezzler who used a computer as a tool to commit his crime to work as a computer programmer is substantially different. It just isn't that hard to find programmers in this country.

And manage the printing place was kind of a throwaway. The felon is in charge of printing BALLOTS. He gets them first, yes?

[Andy_Stephenson]

5. The felon is in charge of the ballots...

In both the mailing of and counting/sorting them when they are returned.

[creativelcro]

9. agreed... What Sam Reed did was NOT out of his concern

for properly conducted elections... he was forced to do that, right ?

[Andy_Stephenson]

10. Exactly...

and David Elliott LIED to the press!!! Said press already being informed

[Andy_Stephenson]

6. Kick before bed

:kick:

[Andy_Stephenson]

7. Kick

:kick:

[GreenPartyVoter]

8. I would love to see

regulated voting machines that are capable of borda voting. That would be lovely.

But it doesn't look very likely for now.

[nostamj]

14. "borda voting"

?

sorry, never heard that phrase before... :shrug:

[GreenPartyVoter]

15. Click on the link to my site

I have a collection of links to various types of voting there. :)

[nostamj]

16. thank you!

interesting concept. not sure i can see it flying with the american electorate but, it was certainly a new concept to me.

ya learn something new every day... (several things if you hang out on DU!)

[GreenPartyVoter]

18. I know

my local ballot counting folks would not go for it. We do hand counts of paper ballots. But computer programs could handle it no problem. :)

[nostamj]

19. "computer programs could handle it no problem"

any IRONY in that statement ??? ;-)

[GreenPartyVoter]

20. Well now

I did say that we'd have to fix the black box issue first. ;)

[Kelvin Mace]

11. Okay, a humorous observation

But am I the only one that thinks you and Bev look like you're trying to teach a dance step? <G>

BTW Andy, I wish I could vote for you.

David Allen
Publisher, CEO, Janitor
Plan Nine Publishing
http://www.plan9.org

[nostamj]

12. i'll take that a step further..... BBV: The Musical!

BBV: The Musical!
starring BEV & ANDY.........



(To the tune of “Blame It On The Bossa Nova”)

JUST DEMAND A PAPER BALLOT
AT YOUR VOTING PLACE.
JUST DEMAND A PAPER BALLOT,
VERIFY THE RACE!
UNTIL THE SHADY SOFTWARE’S CERTIFIED,
WILL WE KNOW THE COUNT IS BONA-FIDE?
JUST DEMAND A PAPER BALLOT
AND JOIN THE FIGHT!

JUST DEMAND A PAPER BALLOT
NOT A PAPER TRAIL.
JUST DEMAND A PAPER BALLOT,
OR THEY’LL TIP THE SCALE.
WHEN PURGING VOTER ROLLS IS NOT ENOUGH,
ELECTRONICALLY THEY WILL GET TOUGH.
SO DEMAND A PAPER BALLOT
AND DON’T SHUT UP!

a little whimsey on a very serious subject!

bravo again!

[creativelcro]

21. Another observation...

Any resemblance ? :) No offense, just having fun ..

[Andy_Stephenson]

22. Well at least you didn't say

[creativelcro]

23. LOL: lotsa lookalikes around :)

[nostamj]

13. KICK

i am such a thread-killer............

[ithacan]

17. instead of "convicted felon,"

better to be more specific, because it seems that these guys were hired exactly because they knew how to screw with these systems...

great job guys!