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TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 05:56 PM
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Who should the 9/11 victims be suing, the airlines or ...
http://www.mises.org/fullarticle.asp?control=1387&id=63

Sunday, December 28, 2003
Who is to Blame for 9-11?

by William L. Anderson


Given the toxic legal climate in the United States for business in general, it should have surprised no one that a federal judge has ruled that families who lost loved ones in the September 11 attacks can sue United Airlines, American Airlines, Boeing and the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey. That the plaintiffs and their lawyers are not suing the worst offender of the tragedy—the U.S. Government—says volumes about the surreal nature of American jurisprudence today.

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While the attorneys and their hand-picked judge actually are clouding the issue here (as I will explain later), their lawsuit—and their public comments—do not tell us what really happened on that fateful day, and why this tragic event occurred. Suffice it to say that 9/11 had the imprint of the U.S. Government from the planning of the attacks, the truncated pre-attack investigation that permitted the terrorists to move about unmolested, to the boarding of the plane, and to the conduct of the crew and passengers before the planes were turned into flying bombs. In this case, the airlines and Boeing have a legitimate defense when they proclaim they were simply following orders.

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The lawsuit claims that United and American should have kept the perpetrators off the planes, but even here, they were following the law. For example, at the time box cutters—the apparent weapons of choice for the hijackers—were FAA approved, so it would have been illegal for the airline security agents to have confiscated them. Second, suppose that the screeners had found not only the box cutters, but also the Islamic death shrouds that the hijackers were carrying. To have kept them off the planes almost certainly would have meant that the airlines were violating U.S. anti-discrimination laws, and no doubt anyone who might have intervened would also have found himself on the receiving end of a federal discrimination lawsuit.

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That Hellerstein has permitted the lawsuits to go forward is further proof that it does no good in the USA for private citizens to follow the law. Instead, federal authorities tend to make up the "law" as they go. Moreover, the government at all levels is doing its level best to keep airlines from preventing another such hijacking. From dragging its feet in permitting pilots to be armed, to turning air screeners into government employees (the creation of the Transportation Security Administration), to the inane methods used by the TSA to screen "potential" hijackers (like 90-year-old grandmothers in wheelchairs, who are regularly searched by screeners through "random" selections), the government is using massive amounts of resources to create an illusion that it is "doing something" about preventing airline hijackings.

(My assessment of the government's role in the 9/11 atrocities does not include a critical look at U.S. foreign policy, not to mention its relationship to Saudi Arabia, which produced 15 of the 19 hijackers. The irresponsibility of U.S. foreign policy is in itself worthy of an examination that would dwarf any of the absurdities committed by transportation regulators, which is why I do not write about it in this article.)

One can be assured that should airline hijackers once again engage in a 9/11-type attack, the only entities that will receive official blame will be those private firms that were following the law. Yes, in hindsight, by following U.S. Government policies from beginning to end, United and American airlines inadvertently aided those individuals who snuffed out nearly 3,000 lives through their vicious actions. Yet, in hindsight, we also know that to have thwarted those attacks would have turned some employees of United and American into felons. Perhaps Mary Schiavo should be suing herself for her own role in creating this mess when she worked for the Department of Transportation, but instead she stands to become a wealthier person because of the twisted state of U.S. law.


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adadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 06:23 PM
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1. Every politician
Edited on Sun Dec-28-03 06:23 PM by cheryl27
lobbyist, and industry executive who worked against or ignored the requests to tighten airport security.

http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/05.18B.Gore.Report.htm
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 06:40 PM
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2. why should they be suing anyone?
cuz we're a crazy litigious society?
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TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 07:04 PM
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3. Maybe cuz they want the TRUTH...and won't just settle
Edited on Sun Dec-28-03 07:05 PM by TruthIsAll
to help BushCo keep the facts hidden forever..
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 08:48 PM
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6. then they'd sue the gov, not the airlines
sounds like $$$$$ to me

tho of course i hope you're right
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kanrok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 10:00 PM
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10. I'm confused
Your post leads me to believe that you are against compensation for the families of those injured or killed by another's negligent and/or criminal behavior. If so, please explain why you believe so. I'm interested in hearing cogent arguments against this concept.
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 07:12 PM
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4. Case in my town right now
An employee of the local Abercrombie and Fitch took pictures of a woman in the dressing room and showed his friends. When the police told the store what was going on they fired the employee. Now Abercrombie and Fitch is getting sued.

Why?

Why not sue the guy who took the pictures?

Well, he's 18 and makes $ 6 an hour. The store will no doubt settle for $ 100,000 or more, but I still don't see how the store was responsible. There's no way they can keep tabs on every one of their employees doing illegal acts.
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adadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 07:20 PM
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5. i agree store not responsible n/t
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frogfromthenorth2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 09:15 PM
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7. Sorry but according to the law, the store is responsible....
eom
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 11:21 PM
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13. Since I don't know much about lawsuits,
tell me what the thinking is that makes the store responsible?
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kanrok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 09:57 PM
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9. The gist of the complaint
had to be "negligent hiring." It is black letter law that a master is not responsible for the intentional acts of their servants. If, however, A & F failed to uncover a propensity for this kind of activity by a person they hired (usually some criminal background that would render the employee "unfit" fo a particular reason) then they are POTENTIALLY responsible under this theory. If they failed to uncover criinal behavior and the employee comits a similar crime against one of the shoppers, A & F should also be responsible. 100k? Please. There have to be damages to support this kind of payment.
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 11:18 PM
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11. The kid doesn't have any history of anything
He's just a local kid.

I don't know what they're suing for. I'm just speculating that I bet the company settles so they avoid the bad publicity of a court case. I will be interested to see how it plays out. I know both of the plaintiff's two attorneys.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 09:22 PM
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8. Sue the airlines? R-U-CRAZY?
One more of the regimes' "Orange Alerts" and we, as taxpayers, will own an airline. Actually, we will own the whole airline industry. That must be their plan. It is so obvious.

Bust the unions, then the "terrorist" threat goes away. Watch. Learn from Uncle DemoTex.
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 11:20 PM
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12. Seems like you would start by
suing the terrorists and the ones who trained and paid them. They've got to have the primary responsibility for the deaths I would hope.
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DUreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 10:49 PM
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14. kick
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