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dansolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 01:17 AM
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How would militia types react if martial law was declared?
I seriously wonder if the NRA types, whose second amendment rights John Ashcroft is so desperate to defend, would be the first ones to have an armed uprising if marshal law were ever declared.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 01:20 AM
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1. I dunno
given taht hte most radical right has been planning to overthrow
the governemnt, regardless of who is in charge, there is a good
chance of that... those are TOTALLY AND CONPLETELY in the fringe
though
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Cat Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 01:20 AM
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2. I'd be more interested in seeing how the *government* would
react to the *militia groups* if martial law were ever declared.

I'd bet you a dozen doughnuts that they'd simply deputize them or call them "emergency state militia" or something. Alot of the militia guys would love martial law, as long as they get to be the ones enforcing it.
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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 09:38 AM
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17. That's what I'd expect to happen
I only hope that the militia types would be wise enough to recognize the tactics...but I doubt they would.

Tucker
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 01:22 AM
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3. Unless Asscroft deputizes them as "peacekeepers".
They may hate govt but they are still Right Wing. I wouldnt be surprised if some of these militia type, christian identity would be used by the administration to keep the local folk in line.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 01:23 AM
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4. Something interesting about this:
For the 8 years of The Big Dog, those frothing militia chuckleheads never shut up about how Clinton and Reno were simply moments away from declaring martial law and kicking in doors to confiscate weapons, eat the brains of children and screw the family dog.

It never happened. Never really got close.

Now, their Maximum Leader is in office and we have never been closer to the above scenario.

Be careful what you wish for. More than you wished for might come true, too.
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solinvictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 05:46 AM
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16. Clinton
When the second weapons ban was enacted by Clinton in 1994, I reacted by purchasing an SKS, a case of ammunition, and the necessary accessories to keep it in operation. Unfortunately, between school and other expenses, I had to sell the rifle, but honestly, I did so at a tidy profit. Now, I wish I still had it.
This weekend I'm contemplating the purchase of a Kalashnikov because in all honesty, I feel more threatened by this regime's actions every day. I've got enough to protect the home from criminals, I'm not worried about that; it's the criminals that act with legal authority that worry me. With the prices of both firearms and ammunition being lower than I've seen in years, the time to buy is now.
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POed_Ex_Repub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 01:27 AM
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5. The thing I wonder about is...
How do they feel about the patriot act? As I recall, they aren't very trusting of the government inserting itself into their affairs. I can't imagine that expanded law enforcement powers sits well with them.
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Indiana_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 01:32 AM
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6. Anyone know of any militia-type websites/links?
We could lurk on one and find out what they're thinking now! We might be surprised. Many of them are extremely distrustful of the government no matter the party in power.
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Indiana_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 01:34 AM
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7. Heck we might need their survivalist expertise if
a revolution or a civil war occurs!
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DoNotRefill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 02:04 AM
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13. "we have met the enemy...
and they are us."

There are lots of Democratic Second Amendment supporters out there. Being pro-Second Amendment doesn't mean you're a right winger, regardless of what some folks here would say.

If you think about it, the Democratic Party SHOULD be the pro-second amendment party. After all, it's a constitutionally guaranteed civil liberty, and the left generally tries to protect civil liberties while the right tries to take them away.
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Columbia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 02:11 AM
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14. Although I agree with you
"There are lots of Democratic Second Amendment supporters out there... If you think about it, the Democratic Party SHOULD be the pro-second amendment party."

With the likes of Dianne Fienstein in the Senate, no one would believe you.

"If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an out right ban, picking up every one of them... "Mr. and Mrs. America, turn 'em all in, "I would have done it. I could not do that. The votes weren't here."

- U.S. Senator Dianne Feinstein, CBS-TV's "60 Minutes," 2/5/95
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 03:05 AM
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15. Tain't all that difficult to find 'em...
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 01:35 AM
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8. With great Shock and Awe...
As their doors got kicked in and their armories seized, just like they thought Reno was going to do.

Surely these chuckleheads don't think they're gonna be allowed to continue to bear arms, do they? They need to read their history
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Columbia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 01:38 AM
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9. Hmm...
"As their doors got kicked in and their armories seized, just like they thought Reno was going to do."

Wasn't that exactly why Waco and Ruby Ridge was just a such a big catalyst for the militia movement?
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Indiana_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 01:44 AM
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10. I believe you're right
When all of that was occuring I thought to myself,"I thought we were supposed to be able to bear arms and defend ourselves and practice whatever religion we wanted to?". I thought it looked like we were losing our freedoms then. At that time I looked into some of the stories and conspiracy theories on websites to try and see what the real story was because i wasn't buying what the media was portraying. I think it was wrong for the government to burn men, women, and children right in that compound! It sickened me. it just didn't seem the right way to go about doing it.
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HawkerHurricane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 02:02 AM
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12. Always found it interesting...
That Clinton got blamed for Ruby Ridge, which occurred a year before he took office...
And Waco, which started before he took office (though, to be honest, it was finished not only after he took office but after he got his 2nd choice for Attorney General confirmed)
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 01:57 AM
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11. I've been wondering the same thing...
it's as if the militia movement has just vanished from the face of the earth. Or maybe the media doesn't cover (and thereby promote it) like they did during the 8 years of the Clinton administration. Hmmm...
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