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Bobby Digital Donating Member (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 04:50 PM
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What do you guys think will happen if a democrat is elected?
In terms of the international political situation. What will the "war on terrorism" become? What will happen in Iraq? Clearly this might vary depending on which democrat is elected, so feel free to indicate what sort of differences you would expect with various candidates.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 04:51 PM
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1. the Democrat will be blamed
for everything bad that has happened since Bush Inc stole the election
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 04:53 PM
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2. The entire world will rejoyce and we will have days of celebration.
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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 04:53 PM
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3. You mean after the
entire world stops celebrating the downfall of this freightful regime?
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 04:55 PM
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5. in 2008, after 4 Dem years, we will look back on the 1990's...
as the era when Repubes were still civil and fair, and we will wish they treated our Dem prez with the dignity and respect they showed Clinton.

I expect charges of treason to be put forth immediately upon swearing-in for the next Dem

the fascists are NOT going to accept a Dem in the chair. The Repubian scorced-earth tactics are going to go up not a notch, but a thousand notches
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 05:28 PM
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19. The Repuliklans and the "librul media" will step up the.....
petty attacks on our Legitimatly Elected President!

:puke:

Republican = Nazi
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MrMonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 04:56 PM
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8. and left to clean up the mess.
1) I think the rebuilding/nursemaiding of Iraq will continue.
2) I think there will be more focus on excising al Quaeda and other terrorist groups.
3) I think the U.S. will be less bellicose.
4) I think that, after a period of testing the new Executive, foreign countries will be more willing to trust and cooperate with the U.S.
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Q3JR4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 05:15 PM
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13. Sometimes I think
that it would be better of * is elected (for the first time). Then he'll have to clean up his own messes and the rest of America can begin to see just how insane these guys are. Afterwards, we wouldn't have another repug president for decades--assuming that the U.S. people don't forget about what * did while in office.

Then again I don't want * to have the powers he currently has and I think it would be worse for America to allow him to stay in power.

Thus, for me it's a toss up.

:shrug:
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Nay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 04:55 PM
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4. I think the Dem will be attacked, undermined, investigated, framed,
and be subject to twice the vitriol that Clinton ever endured. I want someone in office who can tear the neocons a new asshole and make them run for their lives, and I just don't know who that is.

If the new Dem can get the CIA on his side, he might be able to beat back the neocons. But I really don't know how successful a Dem can be in this environment. It's very depressing.
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MrMonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 04:57 PM
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10. that , too.
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 04:55 PM
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6. the great Eye at Mordor
will start spinning rapidly, the ground will shake, Mt. Doom will erupt and the orcs will flee to the countryside to avoid the lava flow.
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 04:56 PM
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7. He'll do what Democrats always do - clean up the Republicans' messes.
I predict that whoever wins will spend the time between the election and the inauguration meeting with world leaders to patch up relations and try and put together a strategy for fighting terrorism throughout the world. Iraq? It all depends on what Iraq looks like next fall.
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stinkeefresh Donating Member (563 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 04:57 PM
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9. whichever Dem gets the nom
will be the new elected prez. Since the rest of the planet can clearly see that our gov't has been hi-jacked by a bunch of criminals that they know all too well, I think we'll see very quickly and clearly that all the anti-Americanism on the part of our former allies was actually anti-Bushism.

If we the people throw him out of office, the rest of the western world will love America again. We can humbly ask for help fixing the nightmare that Bush created, and I think our allies will help.
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phaseolus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 04:58 PM
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11. Perhaps some of the stupider parts of the "Patriot" act will go away
...after a year or so. Other than that, probably not too much of a change.

But in general, until the Republican party returns to sanity, it will be difficult for all but the most politically skilled Democrat to actually govern. I expect every single legislative initiative to be stymied, and also expect lots of bogus investigations that turn up nothing. Basically a repeat of how they acted during the Clinton years, only worse.
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Ready4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 05:09 PM
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12. The moment the election is lost...
Edited on Fri Jan-02-04 05:22 PM by Ready4Change
The moment the election is lost (but before Bush leaves office), the War on Terrorism with be declared over so as to remove the current near war powers granted to the president.

Actually, I think as a lead up to the election there will be news to bolster that the end of the war is near, in hopes that such "progress" will boost Bush votes.

Then, with the war declared over, but with no real change to actual conditions, every single US troop death, every guerilla attack on troops stationed outside the US, every single member of the terrorist playing card deck still free daily will be proclaimed as an outright failure of the democratic president. If things get so bad that the new president attempts to re-open the "war" it will be declared that he has obliterated the "Bush Peace." Expect immediate impeachment processes to begin.

OTOH, if Bush wins the war will be continued for as long as it is convenient. Every troop who dies will be a patriot martyr to the Bush legacy. Also expect a fresh assault on RoevWade, an amendment against gay marriage, the installment of the draft to fill the military ranks as needed for the 3rd, 4th and 5th fronts to be opened up, etc...

Our nation desperately needs a vaste, sweeping change in power from the 2004 elections. Just getting a Dem in office isn't enough.

imho
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 05:19 PM
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14. 4 years of 24X7 smear attacks and scandals
will limit any democrats effectiveness,

but I think international relations will improve remarkably within the first 6 months of a new Democratic administration.

The rebuilding of Iraq wll become increasingly international and increasingly effective at actual rebuilding. There still will be bombings and attacks, but the place will become less and less a war zone.

Unless Lieberman is the Democrat in question, in which case, things won't change significantly in Iraq.

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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 05:20 PM
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15. Among other things, the Draft won't be reinstated.
Good news for young men & their families.

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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 05:21 PM
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16. I sure get leary with these low posters with no stars!
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SwellGround Donating Member (76 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 06:30 PM
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23. As if you never had a low post count and no star
Do babys come from storks too?
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drdigi420 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 07:38 PM
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31. i cant afford a star
i sent in some money via paypal, but never got a star

cant afford to now, not with all the IT jobs going to India
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 05:24 PM
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17. A lot will depend on the House and Senate makeup.
If they remain Republican the new president will not be able to accomplish anything. If they're Democrat, then there's hope that the mess left by the Bush regime can start to be cleaned up.
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Ready4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 05:46 PM
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20. I think Senate isn't voted on till 2008.
If that's correct, then the next Pres will be dealing with a Republican Senate.

Congress might change, though.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 07:04 PM
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26. not quite
The Senate is every 2 years, just like the House. Only about 1/3 of the Senate seats comes up for election each of these two years. Say 30-35 seats each time around... with several Democrats retiring after this term, it will be tough for the Democratic party to get a majority in the Senate. I hope I'm wrong, but it will be tough when we're up against Karl Rove and the Reich Wing media machine.
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 05:26 PM
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18. There will be some very visible cosmetic changes

But US foreign policy - and the ongoing crusade - will remain essentially unchanged, especially from the point of view of the victims and their families.
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camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 06:05 PM
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21. A police investigation via INTERPOL
which is what shoould have happened in the first place.
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SwellGround Donating Member (76 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 06:28 PM
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22. Take the vitrol we are giving the repubs now and square it
What else do you expect? The Dem will be set up for a very big fall from grace.


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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 06:53 PM
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25. you mean take the VITROL the repukes gave Clinton and dems and square it!
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SwellGround Donating Member (76 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 07:06 PM
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27. No, we did that with bush
It's looking exponential in nature now.
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 06:42 PM
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24. OK I am going to give the most optimistic one
Dean is elected and immediately the right wing will attack in every way possible. But Dean is not fazed and attacks right back and makes specific demands for legislation to re regulate and regain the government back to the people. When the Repugs refuse, Dean takes it to the people and tells them if you want this give me a congress that will deliver it, and in 06 the house and senate changes leadership.
How is that for the start of a revolution?

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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 07:09 PM
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28. Iraq will continue to be a disaster regardless of how
"internationalized" the invading infidels may become.

I think we can mend fences with our (former) allies and work closer on preventing future attacks.

IraqNam is now an unsolvable mess. The longer we are there, the more of us and them will be killed.

When/if we leave, civil wars will erupt and kill hundreds of thousands.

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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 07:11 PM
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29. so this is how it's going to be
hi Bobby Digital. If you have a progressive opinion, on anything, don't be shy.

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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 07:29 PM
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30. Depends on which Democrat it is
Some of them will only slow down the Reagan revolution, others will bandage up the most severely wounded, and only a couple will actually try to undo the damage caused by Reagan and the Bush dynasty.
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drdigi420 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 07:44 PM
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32. the phony war on terrorism
will return to the state it was under Clinton, that is to say, an effective one

nail files and fruitcakes will be allowed on airplanes again

elections will be required to be honest

the right wing nutballs will crank up the hate machine to an unprecedented level

the right wing will credit bush for the rebounding economy and will try to make the dem president out to be soft on terrorism

religious nutcases will ocme out of the woodwork claiming the dem to be satan incarnate

but most of all...

it will give us 4 years to escape this country before the repubs regroup and continue the christianizing of the country
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